Earth's sixth mass extinction has begun, study confirms

a reply to: Jonjonj

Our world is perhaps more fragile than you think, it can rather quickly become incapable of sustaining human life, or what could be considered an uninhabitable, and even hostile world.

imo

a reply to: ausername

That's pretty deep bro, I've always thought we just haven't evolved enough yet to see the glaring errors of our ways (greed power war destruction).
i.e We only use 13-15% of brains = Under evolved? Just a thought

a reply to: infolurker

I doubt whether anything will fix it, we are on a path to exit the biosphere. It might be what happens, to industrial societies.

a reply to: Iwinder

Cheers for the linky, I just perused and it looks great! Great doom porn too! 😊

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: iDope

We survived just fine riding horses and living without the advanced technology we have today for thousands of years. We do not need technology at the scale we have it today in order to survive, if that were the case those tribes in the Amazon wouldn't exist.

Some would disagree with this. It is as if you are projecting your desires on evolution. Let me be clear.

Humanity is part of nature and as such is bound by the rules of nature ...and yet...we are the only species that we know of, careful with that definition, that has created technology.Such a technology that we could actually destroy our actual self. Technology has brought us to this very situation, and here we are.
By our own logic and design, whatever we do is the will of something somewhere, be it us, god or nature. This is where I personally start to think that there is no free will, no god, no choice. There is simply the fact that things are set off, as in when one throws a dice, and the rest is a progression by natural law according to the rules of physics in the universe one finds oneself in.

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: Jonjonj

Our world is perhaps more fragile than you think, it can rather quickly become incapable of sustaining human life, or what could be considered an uninhabitable, and even hostile world.

imo

I absolutely agree. Where we may not be in agreement though is where you may think that that worries some people, I am absolutely certain that it does not.

a reply to: Jonjonj

But do we need the technology we have today in order to survive? Those Amazonian tribes seem to suggest that no, we do not need our current technology to survive.

I'm not arguing that our technological advances are part of our evolutionary process, I agree with you there, what I'm arguing is whether those technological advances are needed in order for us to survive.

a reply to: Jonjonj

It worries most people deeply, but not in the way you're eluding to.. People are terrified of even thinking of the sacrifices and changes required now and in the future to assure survival of the human race for generations beyond themselves.

Their reluctance for sacrifice and change... And real doom, are nearly inseparable now.

imo

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Jonjonj

But do we need the technology we have today in order to survive? Those Amazonian tribes seem to suggest that no, we do not need our current technology to survive.

I'm not arguing that our technological advances are part of our evolutionary process, I agree with you there, what I'm arguing is whether those technological advances are needed in order for us to survive.

I completely understand your stance.
We absolutely, as a species, do NOT need any of the technological advances we have in order to survive.
I think we have no choice though, we can not decide NOT to question, NOT to ask, NOT to wonder. It is OUR nature, and as such we have to accept it. That is what I believe.

I remember my son asking me what was stronger, the wind or the mountains...do you see what I mean?

originally posted by: OpenEars123
a reply to: Iwinder

Cheers for the linky, I just perused and it looks great! Great doom porn too! 😊

You are welcome and "doom porn" is the only type of porn that should interest you:-)
Enjoy the links when you have time to peruse them.

Regards, Iwinder

Human Beings are included in the universe of existence. We are born out of the universe and are an integral participant in the grand cosmic scheme.

Therefore, there is nothing unnatural about us besides our condition. And we have severely conditioned ourselves completey contrary to the ideals of prosperity and provision.

It is the Human Condition which is destroying the planet, not humans.

If enlightened human beings were in charge of Earth's resources, things would be much different. There may be 40 billion people or so scattered throughout the solar system. But alas, we are all at the mercy of imbeciles in the present.

a reply to: Jonjonj

I totally agree with you. That's the price that is paid for sentience. Like they say, curiosity killed the cat, we are curious by our very nature.

There is no doubt we are having a huge effect on thus planet.. Our home.
But just as humans evolved I believe the planet will evolve to accommodate us.

a reply to: ausername

I am sorry, I think I was misunderstood. I was not saying people had no reason to worry, only that some others were not worried at all.

Mass extinction will not touch humans unless there would be drastic temperature changing or atmosphere co2 change.

All humans need is grain, clean water and energy. You not gonna die even if all big wild mammals will go extinct.
Perhaps it will be less diversified and less interesting life without elephants, lions, rhinos and crocodiles, but human beings strictly don't need them. In theory humans can sustain even only on mushrooms with some genetic manipulations.

Kind of sucks we come along in the last 200,000 years of a 65 million year cycle, or just maybe we are so self center that we think everything will happen while we are around....hehe

originally posted by: pl3bscheese

We're also the only species to be on all continents.

BS. Where ever humans go, cats and dogs come along with us.

a reply to: DaRAGE

Good call, but it's fair to mention they are only with us because we bring them along as pets.

originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Jonjonj

3NL1GHT3N3D1: But do we need the technology we have today in order to survive? Those Amazonian tribes seem to suggest that no, we do not need our current technology to survive.
I'm not arguing that our technological advances are part of our evolutionary process, I agree with you there, what I'm arguing is whether those technological advances are needed in order for us to survive.

They are not. I wonder when God decides the experiment is over; THIS: "Nothing is profitable anymore, I have exhausted all positive potentialities", "I will not witness the negative natural destruction of my creation". I am done.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Perhaps it is time we stopped punishing ourselves for our nature and started to look at what we really want to be then?