60,000 Manufacturing Plants Closed Since 2001

Recently I have been checking out the progress of automated manufacturing and it is running along. Even China with its reduced labour costs is going to find it hard to compete as the progress and technology continues to be refined and developed over the coming years and decades.

As long as you have some electricity and resources to feed the machines, the potential is there to fit a massive range of stock into a small machine.

I think all youngsters should go to college...to get the high school education that they did not get in high school.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: pl3bscheese

How can you expect someone coming out of highschool to know what the market is or how it works and what's actually in demand?

Good mentors?

I guess they are in short supply... I mentor my own kids to succeed.

originally posted by: Sunwolf
I think all youngsters should go to college...to get the high school education that they did not get in high school.

The funny part is that the 100k job is the guy who does a few years as an plummer apprentice...

During that time we have added over 2 million prisoners and they work for pennies a hour in our prison system.

a reply to: Sunwolf

That's the point.

That way people can profit more.

a reply to: LDragonFire

Yeah the economy is done it's never coming back this is what I keep telling everyone.

If your surviving right count your blessings cause it's going to keep getting tighter.

a reply to: onequestion




Exactamundo...

I live in the hope that both in the USA and UK we will get the impetus to start manufacturing again because I am getting sick of things I have bought made in China always breaking down.

Recently a friend called on their electric scooter which they need for getting around. They were struck for over a week because the battery sold with the new scooter had stopped working. Apparently it had sat on a shelf in some warehouse for 5 years before being put into the new scooter - incidentally sent to the UK via the USA. The maintenance guy told our friend that he was often having to sort out this kind of problem.

We have been through a spate of small electrical stuff such as lights, all breaking down in under 6 months, just when we have not bothered to keep the damn receipt - but all made in china. We have had to replace our landline telephones, again after less than 6 months use due it would appear to cheap manufacturing, though not reflected in the price.

Please could we get back to manufacturing goods with some quality because we sure need to. With people out of work they can't afford to buy, so stuff stagnates in warehouses and no one is benefitting except the shareholders and even they will eventually see their profits fall.

a reply to: onequestion

This might sound like a cliche but the Shadow Government doesn't care about the people.

Cliche I know.

originally posted by: onequestion
Yeah you know what bugs me too.

When people come on here saying that people in St Lious and Baltimore need to go get jobs or that college kids and my generation cant create any wealth or buy houses or cars is because were lazy or lack drive.

Drives me crazy.

Yep and we here just had some dipsh# politician come out and say if you want to get into the housing market you need a good job that pays well.....see how detached from reality these leaders are ?

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I remember marching with my union, and many others, in Memphis to protest NAFTA. It wasn't long after that, that the factory that I worked at closed. Many years later, another factory that I worked at decided to move operations to Mexico. So after working there over 14 1/2 years, I was out of a job once again.

NAFTA was a terrible thing for the average working person.

Jesus H. Christ on his ever loving cross.

You want a good, high paying job? DO NOT go to college, learn a trade.

There are PLENTY of high tech manufacturing jobs left that pay well, even here in New Jersey, the land of ultra-high taxes.

Instead of bitching and moaning all day on ATS about the same things you could have changed your life by now.

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: onequestion

Everyone wants cheap goods. This is the high cost of low prices.

Majority were against Nafta and majority are against the TPP so that shoots that thought down.

China kicked 250+ Million People off their lands where they lived a self sufficient life style and forced them to move to the big cities to work.

Ironically, Big Business in this global market place utilized that Communistic Aspect and had them make widgets for cheap and sell back to Americans for greater profits.

Eventually they run out of other people's money though and this is what is happening.
But it must be the fault of the Unions that have been in existence forever and on the decline even.
It must be the fault of the welfare state, that per person has been on a decline, but increasing as a whole thanks to disastrous "Free" Trade Policies brought about by Corporate Lobbyists.

you know he was bat sh@@ crazy, but he was right when he said this.

1992 Presidential Debate, Ross Perot said:

We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. It's pretty simple: If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory South of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor,...have no health care—that's the most expensive single element in making a car— have no environmental controls, no pollution controls and no retirement, and you don't care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south.

...when [Mexico's] jobs come up from a dollar an hour to six dollars an hour, and ours go down to six dollars an hour, and then it's leveled again. But in the meantime, you've wrecked the country with these kinds of deals.

until we get rid of the 500 or so that write, pass laws, and decide if they are constitutional, and those who in my option do more damage than the 500 that interpret and enforce those laws( the bureaucrats), we will never get back to a decent standard again.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You want a good, high paying job? DO NOT go to college, learn a trade.

While I don't disagree that a trade can be profitable so can jobs with professional college degrees.
The trick about going to college is to pick the right degree and not an easy fluff degree. Also specialize in high demand services.

Not to worry: Walmart is going to save us all within the next 10 years by spending 250 Billion dollars in bringing back manufacturing jobs to the US. Which BTW is the scariest doom porn that I have heard.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

I just wonder, how the country might be if he did make it as President in 92. Interesting video. A pure businessman who didn't sell you BS, just told it to you like it was and seemed to have US interests in mind.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

i was all for Ross for boss until he started talking about blocking off neighborhoods going house to house looking for guns, drugs and such. then it was time to can that old dog.

a reply to: onequestion

The US has pushed free trade agrements down nations necks since the fifties. That policy has allowed America to cream the world. Sad but true someone has learnt to do it better than the US.

The TPP won't be the final nail in the coffin.
It will be throwing the coffin overboard in the middle of the ocean.
Everyones ears are still ringing from that "giant sucking sound".
Some here will remember those famous words from the man who should have been our President.
Too bad he wasn't from either party or he would have had a chance.

The US is sliding in to 3rd world status.
Who would've dreamed how fast they could make it happen?