It IS something in the water... And it hurts everyone

originally posted by: WarriorKitten
I'm so sorry to hear about you're daughter

However I'm grateful you posted a link to a article about the Gardasil vaccine I was supposed to get the vaccine earlier this year but changed my mind and decided to wait for a similar vaccine coming out about November and it worries me what sort of problems this new vaccine could cause.

Thank you. My daughter sees a specialist today... we're being cautiously hopeful.

I am so glad you waited on the vaccine. I have found it odd -- but telling -- that several of the doctors my daughter has seen have specifically asked if she had the Gardasil vaccine recently (she hasn't). I asked one doc why they asked, and he just brushed it off as "covering all the bases." But I wonder...

Please be careful and do your due diligence... good luck.

Amazing I wonder how many countries could face this problem. Sooner or later it has to be picked up by the MSM to broaden this research. .good work

originally posted by: 0bserver1
Amazing I wonder how many countries could face this problem. Sooner or later it has to be picked up by the MSM to broaden this research. .good work

Thank you!

From what I've read, it is a global problem -- even in arctic waters, which are generally considered least polluted.

Unfortunately, the MSM knows which side its bread is buttered on... they won't risk their massive marketing revenue from Big Pharma to reveal the truth. That's why it's up to the rest of us to make it known. People are hurting -- and dying -- because of these poisons.

originally posted by: Boadicea

I don't think there is just one answer. There have always been gay -- and probably transgender -- people, so it cannot be completely unnatural, nor all from man-made sources. I've read many theories. Studies have shown that during and immediately after wars, women tend to give birth to more girls, and of the boys born, more are gay. Is this a natural response to the horror of slaughter and killing? Perhaps defensive surges of estrogen -- a female body's way of protecting her young from the horrors of war? We don't know. The wikipedia page on transgender males noted that one cause may be the disruption of androgen receptors during gestation (which could come from natural as well as man-made sources). We must also consider combinations of factors. For example, could in utero effects be compounded or solidified by the use of BPA-laden plastic baby bottles? If someone could do a study, would we find that bottle-fed babies are more likely to grow up gay or transgender? How about disposable diapers as opposed to cloth diapers? The problem as I see it is that we are sooooo bombarded with these chemicals from every direction that we don't know where "natural" ends and "man-made" begins.

Peoples minds are filled with so much filth, lies and propaganda, they don't know what to think anymore and can't think for them selves anymore, so they just repeat whatever bull# they hear or read in the media.

And that's why we're here, right? We may not have all the answers, but we can use our thought and reason and words to discuss and disseminate the very important information that the industrial terrorists and bought-and-paid-for politicians don't want us to know.

But, because it's not part of the "entertainment" the average person receives from those in control, it therefore must not be true. Because the media and government would never lie to or manipulate the people now would they.

I am cautiously optimistic that the veil is being lifted. Everyone has now been adversely affected by the PTB in one way or another. Once people see one chink in the armor, that's all it takes to look for and find more chinks.

The big question is, what can we do to avoid ingesting or exposure to these chemicals as much as possible? ... [snip]... What can we do to eat "clean"?

Reverse-osmosis water is a good start. Those who cannot afford an in-house system can buy RO water pretty cheap -- just bring your own bleach wipes to clean the spigots.

For produce, there are various options, though the most convenient ones are the worst. Growing our own produce is a start. Big beds aren't necessary. Even a few potted plants on a porch or in a sunny window can provide an abundance of fresh produce. Of course, we cannot grow everything ourselves, but we can barter. My neighbor and I planned our gardens so we are growing different things, and we will trade off with other as we harvest. There are organic and heirloom seed companies working hard to preserve non-GMO seeds. We can shop at farmers markets. We have CSA boxes (Community Supported Agriculture) that allows you to purchase a share of a farm's crops, which is delivered to your home or picked up at a regularly scheduled place/time. We can also prepare more of our own foods, rather than rely on pre-packaged foods. It takes a little more effort, more planning, etc., but it can be done. As more people become aware and demand better for their families, the options will increase. People are quite creative and resourceful when given the chance (and/or necessity demands it!).

But of course, this feeling of helplessness and being trapped is what they want. It's part of it, because if you feel you are helpless to do anything to stop them from poisoning you, then you will give up trying to fight, and just accept it.

Exactly!!! Which is why it's so very important that those of who do see the worst happening... those of us who do see a better way... we must -- MUST -- keep fighting the good fight. WE are the answer. And it scares the holy bejeebers out of the PTB... or the PTW as my son prefers to think

No, there haven't always been gay people.
Our reproductive organs have a purpose. The purpose is in the name.
Our brain has a purpose. Our hands have a purpose. Our eyes have a purpose. You can't use your eyes to chop wood, you need your hands for that.
Besides urination, the purpose of your penis is to be used to reproduce.
You can not reproduce through anal intercourse with another man. Therefore sexual relations with the same sex are not natural and not normal.

There doens't need to be any detailed and complex studies on this. It is what it is.

What someone needs to study is who and what is causing all this, why, and then they need to be thrown in jail for life(those still alive of course, because this conspiracy didn't just start in the last fifteen years).


1+1 = 2, but in this world we live in they want us to believe and accept that 1+1=3.


And it isn't just our sexuality that is being affected and altered, but our health in general.
When my grand parents were still alive, they used to tell me when they were kids, there was no cancer and most of the illnesses we have today they'd never seen or encountered. One of my grandmothers in Greece, who lived in a mountainous village her whole life, was even born in the house she lived in. Never smoked, never drank. They grew all their own veges and fruit. They had chickens, goats, sheep. But she died of cancer. First person in her family(from her side, not my grandfathers) to die of cancer. Just a coincidence that the nuclear fallout from Chernobyl floated over that part of Europe decades ago, righttt...? Of course the government at the time telling people to wash their fruit and veges thoroughly was just a coincidence as well, as was the dramatic spike in cancer.
Everything from the air we breath to the cigarettes people smoke to the nuclear radiation floating around the world to the water we drink to the "fresh produce" we consume is killing us, because it is ALL full of toxic substances that are harmful to our health.

Running off into the wilderness to live off the land would help, if you could source all natural seeds to grow your own produce.
If you could find your own fresh water supply that has not been contaminated.
But you would still be breathing the toxic air. But at least you wouldn't be as poisoned.

I think this thread is a bit exagerate...

For sure chemicals and drugs can influence DNA and developement and behaviour too...
For sure we are in contact with a lot of these chemical agents...

and for sure they have a lot of consequences on our health.... but c'mon, ancient greeks were not homos??? I don't think they were turned by some "god rain that turns everybody gay"...

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURE FULL STOP, JUST LOOK ANIMALS BEHAVIOUR..

a reply to: mortex

No, there haven't always been gay people.

I've read of anceint Japanese culture that homosexuals were revered as their relationships were of a special level of intamacy.

In anceint America before European invasion, homosexuals were revered as they tended to have strong healing powers.

Homosexuality is not abomination or unnatural.

On the flipside:
a reply to: matt1893

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURE FULL STOP, JUST LOOK ANIMALS BEHAVIOUR..

You didn't read through any pf the pertinent links posted throughout the thread. What we are considering here is the corelation between the sky-rocketing prevelance of unhealthy biochemistry imbalance/homosexuality and the sky-rocketing prevelance of endochrine-disrupting substance exposure through the environment.

a reply to: mortex

Thank you for taking the time to share that. I think we agree more than disagree. It reminds me of an ongoing debate I have with my son... is this a world of chaos or order? I say order... with chaos as a known variable... as God intended. While homosexuality is not the norm, it is, and has been for a very long time. When men and women were told to limit sexual relations for procreation purposes only, that didn't work out so well. My husband was absolutely tortured at parochial schools for being left-handed -- because that was also considered "wrong." But "God don't make no junk" as we used to say, and God gave us a mind to think and reason for ourselves, and the free will to carry it through -- for better and worse. If two consenting adults are not hurting anyone, it's not for us to judge or condemn.

The poisons are exactly the opposite. We are not CONSENTING adults and EVERYONE is being hurt. What is happening to our bodies -- including, but not limited to, our reproductive organs -- IS HURTING US. And the mixing up of hormones, women getting too many men's hormones and men getting too many women's hormones, is causing/creating physical changes in our bodies and organs. As well as those chemicals which are blocking our hormones receptors, and creating major problems for many (like my daughter). Hormones serve purposes beyond sexual/reproductive, and when those functions are not properly fulfilled, chaos ensues.

Our focus needs to be on the involuntary and unwanted harm being inflicted on our bodies from these poisons that are everywhere -- the air, the water, the soil, our medicines, our food supply.

a reply to: Boomorangatangarang

Thank you. That was very well said!

a reply to: matt1893

In addition to Boomerangatang's response, please understand that this is about far more than just one's sexual preferences in partners. Many of the conditions caused by excess synthetic hormones and/or endocrine-disrupting chemicals are serious, even deadly. Like cancer. Breast cancer is known to be caused by excess estrogen. Think about all those pink ribbons... and yet the same charities pushing "breast cancer awareness" are also pushing the birth control which causes breast cancer, along with abortions, which also cause breast cancer. But we don't hear them complaining as long as the $$ keep coming in.

Our priorities are skewed. We MUST do better.

This article is from just a couple days ago:

Birth Control in Drinking Water: A Fertility Catastrophe in the Making?

It's a little disappointing in that it focuses on birth control and sterility, but it's from a Catholic website, so those would be their major interest in the issue. But it is very informative about recent studies. I was struck by this sentence, which shows why more people aren't paying attention:

“That this is considered controversial by toxicologists is considered laughable by endocrinologists,” said vom Saal. “EE2 can cause effects in human tissues at concentrations in blood below one part per trillion, so this is an extremely potent drug.”

a reply to: Boomorangatangarang
Get the book The Pure Cure by sharyn wynters she is a little over the top but every parent should have this book.

originally posted by: matt1893
I think this thread is a bit exagerate...

For sure chemicals and drugs can influence DNA and developement and behaviour too...
For sure we are in contact with a lot of these chemical agents...

and for sure they have a lot of consequences on our health.... but c'mon, ancient greeks were not homos??? I don't think they were turned by some "god rain that turns everybody gay"...

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NATURE FULL STOP, JUST LOOK ANIMALS BEHAVIOUR..

Hi Matt have you checked the animals diets and made sure they don't consume any legume plants, also nowadays the atrazine that is sprayed also goes into the animals although the BBC did a show on penguins in the 50s and they were shagging everything even dead penguins and the bbc couldn't show the program LOL