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"The entire world" is actually a precise statement, even though I never have to leave home to access it. Thanks to the Internet I do have access to all but the most restrictive of Countries - and their opinions - and converse very often from people spanning the globe.
The sentiment behind this thread is very much Internet inspired and based. My real life world is rather small and I prefer it that way. I was once a very social person, but over the past decade I quit drinking, became single, and started realizing that I was getting a bit old to be as wild as I was being. So... I made peace with simpler things and now mostly am a homebody.
I made peace with simpler things and now mostly am a homebody.
Somehow these videos end up going along this narrative "So... *sob*... today a guy named Mike said he liked my shoes.... and I felt so raped... I felt so objectified and dirty...."
When the socialists are complaining that the social justice warriors are way off, you know there is a problem.
originally posted by: JeanPaul
The problem is, the right wing makes it next to impossible for even leftist people to criticize "leftist" tactics because we don't want to give racists/sexists/homophobes any ammo.
originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: SaturnFX
When the socialists are complaining that the social justice warriors are way off, you know there is a problem.
I can find common ground with socialists. Socialists really are just Libertarians with different economic views.
But I cannot find common ground with these SJW's.
When they start calling for crap like gender quotas and for people to be prosecuted for "Fart Rape" and "manspreading," we have reached some serious issues culturally.
originally posted by: Pinke
The last 18 months have been surprising, enlightening, and unfortunately have lost me some irl friends.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
what happened in the early months of 2014 that has suddenly polarized and radicalized soo many...or perhaps not many, but media propping them up as some sort of shining beacon
originally posted by: Pinke
originally posted by: JeanPaul
The problem is, the right wing makes it next to impossible for even leftist people to criticize "leftist" tactics because we don't want to give racists/sexists/homophobes any ammo.
This could be the quote of the thread.
Think these days everyone has become a political node and everything is a zero-sum game. I've had everything from being asked questions like 'why would you attack another feminist?' to 'so you think X abhorrent act is okay?' based on my own journey of introspection and interrogating my values and the causes I get behind.
I believe more than ever many people are afraid of telling their various emperors about their lack of clothes or they simply don't even query it. Not sure how many ATS'ers have noticed but these days I tend to start talking to people on my side of the debate first before challenging anyone on the opposite side. The last 18 months have been surprising, enlightening, and unfortunately have lost me some irl friends.
Lot of the time these people don't realize that they're asking you to adhere to a standard. They're telling you to 'stay on message' as if you were a lower tier politician. The irony is that this should be everything that they despise and hate. Conformity, the stream lining and homogenizing of opinions and values via the ever watchful eye of social shame.
I'd like to say I've made some friends on my journey, but honestly I don't think I've made a single one and its made me feel kind of lonely. If anything, I kind of want to take it all back. :/
Social pressure in action I suppose.
As an aside I don't believe it's a particularly 'left' paradigm. Also I don't believe, as some have alluded to, that this phenomenon is about feeling 'oppressed.' I don't consider losing a few handfuls of friends an finding it hard to relate to people 'oppression,' but challenging one's own beliefs these days is tantamount to finding a new friend circle.
a reply to: JeanPaul
originally posted by: Hefficide
Could it all just be that the Generation Tweet is incapable of going deeper than a single thought into any given subject?
originally posted by: Hefficide
I began doing my own research and found myself smack in the middle of SJW rhetoric that did not help my understanding one iota.
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: SaturnFX
"SJW" feminism isn't even talked about in mainstream. These extreme identity politics aren't acknowledged, I don't know how much more rejected you can get than that.
Jessica Valenti is a columnist and staff writer for Guardian US. She is the author of four books on feminism, politics and culture, and founder of Feministing.com.
Diversity officer who banned whites from her 'anti-racism' event at British university wiping away fake tear in front of 'no white men' sign