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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Humans are different because they know that in time they will die.
originally posted by: gosseyn
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: gosseyn
They can they just teach the next generation and have done for century's If you mean they can not write it down....well yeah.
Exactly, they cannot write it down, so they are limited to contemporary exchanges, thus they don't have this capacity that we have, otherwise there would be monkey surgeons, astronauts, poetry, there would be monkey civilization.
originally posted by: 321Go
originally posted by: gosseyn
originally posted by: 321Go
There is one very definite difference between us and other animals. Most of the traits we believe are human are shared by other species, like love or self-awareness or communication, among others, except that is, for faith. Other animals do not worship a creator.
I believe, if it were possible to ask, they would have no idea what we were talking about if we were to suggest such a thing. They would probably believe we had a screw loose, and they would probably be correct.
That's a good point. But I think it is less a dedicated function and more of an incomprehension. I mean our minds have to give some answer to questions that we cannot answer yet, questions to which we will maybe never be able to give a satisfactory answer.
I don't quite follow your logic. Our minds have developed (a word I'm using with caution) to the state of needing answers for everything. Those that our ancestors could not answer with physical evidence where answered with mythological stories, and this then developed into worshipped religion.
Animals have absolutely no need to ask why a mountain or tree is where it is, or why the sun comes up and which revolves around which, and ultimately who or what made it all happen. That is uniquely human.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: gosseyn
Language is the determining factor. This has been known for quite some time.
originally posted by: bb23108
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Humans are different because they know that in time they will die.
Right, and on the basis of that self-knowledge there is a great fear that constantly motivates a search to control life as much as possible - through the creation of the presumed separate self and all of its systems, myths, beliefs, etc.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: bb23108
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Humans are different because they know that in time they will die.
Right, and on the basis of that self-knowledge there is a great fear that constantly motivates a search to control life as much as possible - through the creation of the presumed separate self and all of its systems, myths, beliefs, etc.
It is the 'assumed' separate self which gives rise to beliefs like time and death.
Animals know nothing of time - they only KNOW what is happening now.
Life is happening now and in the human it can happen as thoughts of 'me in time'.
That 'me' in time does not exist because time does not exist. Only now 'appears' to exist.
The separate self only appears to exist in stories (once upon a time in a far away land...).
originally posted by: gosseyn
But other animals have a memory, and they react to present events based on their previous experiences, so in one way they also live in the past, and they also can imagine a better future, they do want to go to other places in the future. Like my cat for example when he wants to go out, or monkeys when they look for water to bathe in it.