Another 411 missing hiker type event, Chilliwack, BC

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

I agree. And you can't run into that boulder field that far. They said he fell too, where did he fall? Why the hell did he walk out there? His best friends don't even know and the rescue team is stupefied. Something odd happened here and to deny that I think is stupid.

This is a link to the Travel Channels recent program regarding the missing on Mt Shasta, David Paulitis is interviewed. The story about the little boy is my grandson. www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Domo1
How do we know the friends didn't climb up with him and shove him off the cliff?

Bingo


Never underestimate mans flexibility in going from friend to murderer.

Everyone keeps saying there isn't anywhere to fall on the Bolder Trail area, so is there a cliff to fall off near where the body was found?

And just keep thinking he's in the age range of my sons. Very sad.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: Greathouse

Seeing as no rocket appears to have been found, I'd guess he climbed it, and tragically, fell.

There's a lesson to be learned here: Don't go hiking/climbing in jogging shoes.

Why are we assuming that he was not already on the ridge above the boulder field? -- i.e., the route he was on took him along the top of the ridge, and he didn't necessarily need to climb up at the point he was found.

As for the apparent increase in people dying while hiking: I bet the fact that hiking is more popular than ever among regular people has something to do with it.

for everyone who is perplexed as to " how he got there " or such issues :

why are you deliberatly ignoring the fact that :

rather than walk up the trail with his friends he chose to run off promising to meet them later

a reply to: ignorant_ape

What does this fact show?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that hiking is the 21st century perfect murder method. No more shots to the head and staging a suicide. This is the way people can avoid that pesky forensic stuff. Hiking deaths are up for a reason.

a reply to: FlySolo

He could have been jogging to the spot where he was going to meet his friends at but got derailed when maybe he was being chased by a cougar or bear...I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. In the fraser valley these two animals are very popular and have been known to attack humans in both wilderness and public.

originally posted by: Legman
a reply to: ignorant_ape

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that hiking is the 21st century perfect murder method. No more shots to the head and staging a suicide. This is the way people can avoid that pesky forensic stuff. Hiking deaths are up for a reason.

I suppose what you are saying could be true -- that a good way to cover up a murder is to make it look like a hiking accident.

However, as for your last sentence "Hiking deaths are up for a reason", I think that could be due to the fact that there are far more hikers now than in the past, considering how the popularity of hiking has increased.

More people hiking = a greater chance of hiking accidents.

A couple of pictures of the boulder field. I don't know, unless he climbed from the trail all the way to the top of the rock slide, I don't know how you end up dead on it. Depending on where he was found...if near the bottom then it's unlikely he fell from the top. And even if he was at the bottom, the slide isn't steep enough?

This is where I live. i have done this Trail many times, It can happen trust me. A small mis step and a tumble can easily happen people.


And so you know we dont always stay on trail i have been to that exact boulder field lol

a reply to: ProspectPhilosopher

Have you been to the top of the boulder field? Is there an accessible trail to it or is bush whacking required? What makes this incident so odd is how he ended up so far from his group

a reply to: FlySolo

If its the one im thinking of he may have hiked to it off trail as I have afew times, And what you have to know about that area is those boulders are all very loose, I have almost slipped afew times on them falling,so an accident in that area is easy enough to happen and with the area there was not much help accessible.

a reply to: ProspectPhilosopher

Say you stepped on a loose rock and slipped. Wouldn't the rest of the rocks prevent you from falling to your death? Sure, you may get banged up a bit but to fall to your death seems a bit of a stretch. In the articles I've been reading, they all say the elevation is quite high from the lake. How long would it take to bush whack/ climb your way to the top? I would guess a good chunk of the day

a reply to: FlySolo

It all does depend really, iv seen some areas where a tumble could result in death, and for gaining access, it depends on the person it can take an hour-3 or 4 which also depends on how well he knew the area and such, the area was not that far from the lake itself. Also we must remember we don't know if he died from the initial fall or from injuries related to the fall. As more details emerge we will know more.

when they say he had injuries from a fall... were there several broken bones like with someone who falls from 50 feet or more, or was it more of a case where he just tripped and fell,and his head hit a jagged rock in just the right way to kill him with one solid hit?

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: Greathouse

I didn't hear the spokesman say that, I thought he said they found him in the boulder field, and they didn't know how he got there. My experience of boulder fields is they look like an avalanche of rocks, ranging 1 to 3 football fields in length on the bottom of a mountain.

There's not really anywhere to fall from, unless he sprinted off the trail and straight up the mountain, found a mountain tail, and eventually fell possibly 100's to 1000's of feet to the boulder field? I think if they found him like that, (fallen from a high up cliff) his death would be described as so. But instead it's his body was found in a boulder field. The trail from the clip looked so simple, and especially simple if he said it's just a trail from the parking lot to the lake. So he is at the base regardless, not near anywhere to fall from. So it is kind of weird, but sad, RIP.

I checked out the Chilliwack Lake Provincial Park website to look at trails, but there's a number of lakes at the park, so we don't really know the trails in much detail.

I was looking at different sources after I read the OP sorry I didn't link but it will come out .

a reply to: FlySolo

I've heard the Missing 411 shows on C2C. According to David, most if not all, of the missing were found nude or nearly so with their clothes nearby. I wonder how it was with this guy. Also, the guy on the video said where he was found was a 25 minute walk from the lake and not near a trail. I wonder how familiar he was with the area. Could he have stepped off the trail and gotten disoriented and lost? I've seen other posters say the boulder field wasn't steep. It looked like it was on the video; the section they showed anyway. It didn't show the top. My thoughts are: something got him, he fell from the top somehow, or his friends killed him and are covering it up. The place is heavily traveled (according to the video) so I don't know about them killing him. It could be done. Need more info.

a reply to: misskat1
Not available in Canada..I don't know why they do that??