Man Exercises Open-Carry Rights By Carrying Loaded Assault Rifle In Airport

a reply to: greencmp

And I'm not talking about malcontents. I'm talking about the people that aren't expertly trained, that could end up ripping off an entire magazine when one or two shots might work.

I agree with you in most cases. Just not on a plane.

originally posted by: Spider879

Georgia man wandered around Atlanta airport with a loaded AR-15 because ‘something might happen’

If something were to happen, he's the first one to go for not having the sense to carry concealed. The only thing this guy can be credited with is drawing attention to and making himself, his wife, and his daughter a target.

a reply to: greencmp

You are missing the point me and Zaphod are making.

Untrained people carrying and firing guns on a Aircraft is insane.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: greencmp

I'm talking about people fighting back accidentally hitting something vital, not deliberate sabotage. It's nice to think that people wouldn't panic and would hit with every shot, but there's too much risk that adrenaline, shock, and fear are going to cause them to miss and possibly hit something they shouldn't.

It is all hypothetical of course and I do sympathize with your concerns, I share them.

But, I have made my decision with respect to freedom to defend oneself and others with modern tools.

TBH... I'm a little disappointed in the OP.


This thread is so close but lacks abortion and the death penalty to really give it that big push over the edge. Hellova try though.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

You are missing the point me and Zaphod are making.

Untrained people carrying and firing guns on a Aircraft is insane.

I am not missing it, just not assuming it as the premise of my argument.

Roads are a supremely silly idea for the very same reason.

originally posted by: greencmp


But, I have made my decision with respect to freedom to defend oneself and others with modern tools.

Great.

And any airline that has that policy wont last a week.

It cant be a airline if no one will let it in there airspace

a reply to: greencmp

And there are plenty of tools on an aircraft that aren't going to end up killing the wrong people. A gun is the wrong tool in that situation.

Anywhere else, I agree that concealed carry is the best defense. But a gun on a plane is a horrible tool to use.

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

You are missing the point me and Zaphod are making.

Untrained people carrying and firing guns on a Aircraft is insane.

I am not missing it, just not assuming it as the premise of my argument.

Roads are a supremely silly idea for the very same reason.

A accidental discharge in a car is unlikely to kill hundreds of people....

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: greencmp

And I'm not talking about malcontents. I'm talking about the people that aren't expertly trained, that could end up ripping off an entire magazine when one or two shots might work.

I agree with you in most cases. Just not on a plane.

I understand and, like I said, I am choosing principal over what could be considered "common sense" in this case.

Call me constitutionally orthodox but, I would choose freedom over security any day.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: abe froman

So you open carry to get chicks?

No, that's just a weird side effect.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: greencmp

You are missing the point me and Zaphod are making.

Untrained people carrying and firing guns on a Aircraft is insane.

I am not missing it, just not assuming it as the premise of my argument.

Roads are a supremely silly idea for the very same reason.

A accidental discharge in a car is unlikely to kill hundreds of people....

I didn't say anything about guns, the cars themselves are tremendous weapons.

originally posted by: abe froman

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: abe froman

So you open carry to get chicks?

No, that's just a weird side effect.

I would be more than a little suspicious of that if I were you.

a reply to: greencmp

And I'm choosing my freedom to arrive at my destination intact. Like I said, I don't even like the idea of trained people being armed there. Anywhere else I have a chance to get out of the way. A plane not so much.

originally posted by: greencmp


I understand and, like I said, I am choosing principal over what could be considered "common sense" in this case.

Call me constitutionally orthodox but, I would choose freedom over security any day.

Yeah as I said.......most people and countrys will vehemently disagree with you making such a airline financially unviable.

There is Freedom and just being dangerous and putting multiple peoples life's at risk.

The US constitution matters # all in China or the EU or anywhere else and if other country wont let a commercial plane land then its a useless airline.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Just been following your posts and you raised an interesting questions. Has the airline policy changed since 9/11? Is it still to remain calm and try and get the plane on the ground? Or is their a more aggressive approach? I know not all flights have air marshalls on them etc.

a reply to: greencmp

The difference there is I have some control. If a car is coming at me I can move. There's nowhere to go on a plane.

Besides what I drive is a lot bigger than a car.

a reply to: LoverBoy

They started self defense courses for flight attendants almost immediately after, some even before they opened the airspace again. Now they call on passengers for help as well as fight back.

a reply to: greencmp

Plus Should I be free to carry a lighter into a explosive chemical plant? Cause freedom over safety?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: greencmp

And there are plenty of tools on an aircraft that aren't going to end up killing the wrong people. A gun is the wrong tool in that situation.

Anywhere else, I agree that concealed carry is the best defense. But a gun on a plane is a horrible tool to use.

Water gun filled with acid? A good sturdy mace with spikes? Caltrops for isles? I approve.