Fallout 4 to be revealed in 20 hours

a reply to: Indigent

What? who? when?, i am so tired now, trying to find out that will it be on 360?
Some site said yes,,, cool,,

originally posted by: Urantia1111
Which half of the game will i be missing? PC and console are different somehow? Im replaying Oblivion on 360 after losing more than 300 hours played on PC and if anything it works better on the xbox. Im guessing Fallout 4 wont be offered on the 360...

Mods



Now let me explain. its not just about having outstandingly superior graphics. lets say you dont care for some reason and are only interested in the gameplay, the quests, etc.

Lets see:
Meet Willow:


This is the most well done NPC in the fallout series, arguably the best companion to date in gaming. She has a very pronounced personality, slight character flaws, sings when a bit bored, has a weird itch (perhaps needs a shower..wasteland and whatnot) now and then, has tremendous amounts of dialogs done with amazing voice acting dwarfing any other companion dialog amount I know of, to include bioware companions, her own quests, and if you so desire, you can -try- over time to romance her, or become her best friend, etc.
PC mod, free on the nexus

Yeah yeah..companions.boo...you may hate companions, or are fine with just vanilla mule companions with the personality of a tumbleweed. for you..its quests..all quests...Fair enough

Project Brazil:


a mod for Fallout New Vegas. a new land to explore approximately the size of FO3, with new characters, quests, story arc, new weapons, clothes, etc.


ok, I was wrong. if you buy fallout for anything besides a PC, you aren't getting half a game..you are getting 1/10th of a game....at least in regards to potential of what it can be.

Bethesda's two IPs, TES and Fallout, are sandboxes with..ok...stories in place. Its main draw, and the reason why PC gamers nearly faint at announcements, is that ultimately they are creating the foundation and some examples for gamers to work with and build on.

i am excited as well, but i hope they dont make fallout into a mmorpg like eso. some games are just better for campaigns. here's hoping.

originally posted by: zyrktec
i am excited as well, but i hope they dont make fallout into a mmorpg like eso. some games are just better for campaigns. here's hoping.

dont think thats a concern. I think (hope) they learned a thing or two from ESO and will focus on what they are good at.

In saying that, I still would love for them to attempt a secondary multiplayer aspect..let your friends join in your personally hosted server game (like dying light/dead island/etc), but I see that as potentially riddled with issues when you try to sync up different mods.

I have about 1,000 hours of playing time between Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Can't wait to play this once it comes out!

a reply to: Indigent

Holy Crap! No way! How'd I miss the trailers?

I'm firing it up and going to New Vegas tonight.

I love that game so much I just wander around. The only other game I do that with is Shadow of the Colossus.

Thanks so much for the heads-up.

Yay!!!

Say WHAT???

Yep, I can already see a year of my life gone once this game comes out...

Am I the only one who doesn't buy into hype?

Am I the only one who sees these as generic wastes of money?

The thing about Bethesda games is that they're so large and complicated they always contain many bugs. It pays to be patient and wait for an unofficial community patch before playing. I always wait at least 6 months after release before playing a Bethesda game so that I can use mods and unofficial bug patches. I didn't even start playing Skyrim properly until about a year ago. But since I waited so long I had access to a large array of high quality mods. Anyone who thinks mods don't really make a difference has no idea what they are talking about.

a reply to: Indigent

this game might pull me away from killzone.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
Am I the only one who sees these as generic wastes of money?

How dare you speak such blasphemy sir!!!!!!!!!!!!

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Maybe if these games had a track record of getting better and not the other way around! I mean hell they killed Elder Scrolls series..

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Maybe if these games had a track record of getting better and not the other way around! I mean hell they killed Elder Scrolls series..

Well in terms of the Fallout series the only modern titles we have are FO3 and NV, and NV wasn't exactly a sequel to FO3, it used the same engine, it was just a different world with different quests and slightly tweaked game mechanics, which is why it wasn't called Fallout 4. So we don't really know it will be worse than those two games, in fact I don't really see how it could be worse. The graphics and game mechanics will be far superior because they're using the new Creation Engine they used for Skyrim instead of the obsolete Gamebryo engine. Plus they've had a very long time to understand what Fallout fans want in the game so it would be hard for them to screw it up imo. They now have the computing power to do all the things they never could do in FO3 and it's going to be glorious, mark my words.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Well for your sake and other fan's sakes, here's hoping.
I am very cynical of game developers (or at least the companies they work for) these days as all I ever see is garbage hyped up to be something it isn't.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I don't see any reason to doubt Bethesda Game Studios or Tod Howard, they are masters of open world RPG's. The last game they released was Skyrim (they publish a lot of games but don't develop many) and I thought it was pretty damn good. The last Fallout game they developed was FO3 in 2008, Obsidian created New Vegas. Personally I think FO3 is better than New Vegas but NV did offer some new game mechanics that were very nice and I'm sure they will carry across to FO4.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

While I'm not going to fault anyone for enjoying the games, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with some of your points. Bethesda doesn't meet my standards of what an open world RPG should be. They are far from masters. Though I will gladly give you that they are far from the worst. I could not get into Skyrim to save my life. I begrudgingly got into Oblivion, casting my complaints aside. I did enjoy that game to some extent, though I made my own fun in it and didn't bother with the story. These games hold your hand. I thoroughly enjoyed Morrowind because it didn't do that in the slightest. As for the Fallout games, I could not get into them either for similar reasons. Same story with the Dragon Age series. A whopping load of meh.

Their characters and stories just don't grab me.

These are of course, my own opinions and I don't fault anyone for playing games they enjoy. That's what they're there for after all.



You want some hardcore open world gaming?

Dwarf Fortress (Don't worry there are graphics mods)

I've spent a considerable amount of time playing all Fallout games. I absolutely cannot wait for Fallout 4 to come out. I remembering buying the first Fallout on PC in the big box, 1997.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Bethesda doesn't meet my standards of what an open world RPG should be.

Bethesda created the standard for what an offline open world RPG should be. There are no other single player RPG's that come close, except maybe the recent Witcher 3 game, but I haven't played that yet.

I could not get into Skyrim to save my life. I begrudgingly got into Oblivion, casting my complaints aside. I did enjoy that game to some extent, though I made my own fun in it and didn't bother with the story. These games hold your hand. I thoroughly enjoyed Morrowind because it didn't do that in the slightest.

I haven't played Morrowind in a long time but I do remember the world felt more alien than the recent TeS games. Skyrim did have some awesome new features like shouts and the Dragon Priest Mask quests. Just because the more recent TeS games have a main story quest line doesn't mean they are holding your hand, they are trying to merge an interesting story in with a game where you can do anything. You don't even have to do the main quests, most games are not like that, they force you on a specific path. The whole dragonborn thing in Skyrim does restrict your ability to role-play but that's what mods like The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests and Requiem - The Roleplaying Overhaul are for.

Their characters and stories just don't grab me.

The characters in FO3 and NV were extremely unique with highly detailed back stories. You have to remember the sheer number of NPC's restricts the time they can spend on each character but they still do a brilliant job. Nearly every building and location in the game has some sort of back story which can be figured out by reading notes and examining other clues. If there is a person sitting dead in a bathtub holding a syringe there is usually a story behind their death. If you examine an abandoned building you will usually uncover a dark history behind the structure which explains why people are hanging from hooks on the roof or if you examine an old vault you discover some sort of horrific experiments were conducted on the inhabitants.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

That's all well and good but it doesn't change the fact that they don't interest me. It probably doesn't help that I'm not into the whole post apoc thing anyway. I just can't get into them, or recent Elder Scrolls stuff. I'll stay optimistic for the future though.

As far as hand holding goes, I'm not talking about there being quests or even a main one. Morrowind had a main story too. The hand-holding I'm mainly talking about is the compass that tells you exactly what direction you need to go! And secondly, fast traveling. Haha yes I'm complaining about fast traveling almost anywhere. It's not so much the fast traveling that bothers me so much as the lack of rhyme or reason to it.

Call me old fashioned but I like the fun of figuring out where places are and trudging across the landscape to get there. I know the games aren't entirely devoid of that stuff but they've taken away most of the enjoyment/frustration/journal checking.

They may have set a standard for what modern offline open world RPG's are but they don't live up to my standards or taste. Am I being unreasonable in much of my complaints? Probably. I'm cynical and hard to please when it comes to video games. It's why I play so few.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Waste of money? Better value then many other types of entertainment.
Games can be.