Sanders/Paul Let's push it!

Let's Push a Sanders/ Paul Ticket. Far right-but not ultra religious and far left, but with some actual common sense.

If we, ATS, really started pushing this...that should be the ticket!

Let's do this.

Not much info here for a new thread but I really just want us to discuss this.

a reply to: amazing

Interesting thought, but....neither have Corporate backing so its pretty much a lost cause.

a reply to: amazing

I would prefer the Paul/Sanders ticket .

a reply to: amazing

I second this ticket. Unfortunately TPTB will tamp it down, kind of what they did to Ron Paul in 2012.

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: amazing

I would prefer the Paul/Sanders ticket .

And I, Sanders/Warren +

originally posted by: ugmold

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: amazing

I would prefer the Paul/Sanders ticket .

And I, Sanders/Warren +

Well we agree to disagree . But I thank you for being Active in the political process. We need many more people to do that. If we had a 90% turnout for presidential elections they wouldn't be as easy to rig .

Sanders/Paul ?

HELL NO.

a reply to: amazing

if you're talking about bernie sanders, let me just say that he is a capitalist pretending to a socialist.

a reply to: thishereguy

How so?

"It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

Douglas Adams

a reply to: beezzer

When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. Baltimore Sun (26 July 1920)

Mencken

a reply to: amazing

Rand would never run with Sanders....

Sanders is far too socialist....his idea of taxing 90-95% on income alone would throw Paul into a constitutional tirade, the likes of which Sanders would never recover.....

Rand paul is way too strong on constitution.....


I find it interesting that people think this would work, i guess its an indication of how much people really dont know about the candidates

However I would like to see Rand run AGAINST Sanders

At least then we would have a REAL election debate

I fully support the idea of having a representative from both parties in the executive branch of government.

I would vote for a Paul / Sanders ticket.

Anything that prevents the BS partisan politics and forces the parties to work together for the PEOPLE.

I know, I live in fantasy land.........

As I said in a different thread, OpinionatedB and Benevolent Heritic would get my vote.

They strongly disagree on many issues but they debate like adults and could reach common ground for the good of ALL

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: amazing



I find it interesting that people think this would work, i guess its an indication of how much people really dont know about the candidates

To me if they couldn't work together then we get 2 that can.

Maybe I don't 'understand' politics, but I do understand the partisan BS is killing America.
We need to force these elected officials to do their job and find common ground.

The partisan BS is a childs excuse to do nothing. And sadly the majority of Americans feed into the divide like good little sheeple. We need to demand better.

Good replies. But remember that if they were to run together...I mean I really like a ticket that represents both parties...Or neither party, but something different. They could discuss...I mean in every other facet of the world, families, businesses, successful associations, compromise and working together are key. The only place it's not okay is politics and the media covering politics and those pundits.

Why couldn't Sanders switch to a flat tax approach and Paul compromise on something else?

Looking at ATS, none of us want the same old. We spar about how much we hate Bush and Hillary and which one is better, but really..none of us want that. We want something different.

I do understand how diametrically opposed Paul and Sanders are, but I also understand that they are much closer then most of the other candidates and much closer then most people think. Just like Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party...not what we get fed by the media, but the average person in the street...they're the same. They want change. We all want change.

Paul/Sanders, Sanders/Paul. Much better than a corporate lapdog that everyone else is. and much better than some religious nut job. Not being a Christian, I go into convulsions everytime I hear ben Carson or some of these other names. We don't need someone in there that's a Christian first, American Second. It should be the other way round.

This Idea is so crazy it could work.

So you want an avowed socialist who believes that there should be communal ownership of property with government having the power to redistribute it on the same ticket with a libertarian who believes people should retain as much control over their property (including income) as possible?

That's like expecting matter and anti-matter to hug and not explode catastrophically.

originally posted by: ketsuko
So you want an avowed socialist who believes that there should be communal ownership of property with government having the power to redistribute it on the same ticket with a libertarian who believes people should retain as much control over their property (including income) as possible?

That's like expecting matter and anti-matter to hug and not explode catastrophically.

Like I said before, I think they're closer than you think or at least they're both further away than the Democrat/Liberal Republican/Conservative deadlock and farce that we have in there now.

If everyone could realize that the only thing that can save our country is to get rid of the jerks in both parties and try something different. There's nobody else I can see except Warren on the left that is far enough away from the existing power structure to push...you've got some lesser names like Ralph Nader and some even lesser names below that, but noone knows them and they don't have a chance. Most of the people on the Right, if they appear to be legit against the power structure are too religious and would place Christ before American. It shouldn't be that way. America should be before Jesus and Christianity.

So who's left?

Back on track...it's not really about a socialist and libertarian working together, although in any other mature adult situation, they could. It's about both of them working together to break us out of our political deadlock that's destroying our nation.

Just wanted to add that you fools who listen to talk radio and think Obama's destroying our nation, aren't really paying attention. It's both parties and it's more congresses fault than our last couple of presidents and as you look at Obama and think that Bush would be better, you're missing the real issue again. They're fooling you.

a reply to: stosh64

I would agree that partisan politics causes many issues....

but youre always going to have that......period...

The issue isnt partisan politics.....its that we have forgotten as a country that its ok to have different opinions and to find a common ground........

Its because we have abandoned our principles in place of ideologies......

a reply to: amazing

You think I haven't figured out that both sides are screwing us?

I'm just saying that they have diametrically opposed ideologies. This will make it difficult to govern, and difficult for me to trust that ticket.

a reply to: amazing

Being a Christian, I agree with your post. As you feel about Christians I feel about humanists. I don't want to debate it, it is what it is.
I do agree with the rest of your post. The BS partisan illusion we have now does not work for the people. It only furthers the corrupt, self aggrandizing agenda of those in power.

Can we force representatives from both parties to act like adults and find common ground for the good of ALL? Instead of behaving like children, pointing fingers and playing the blame game to intentionally divert our attention away from their true intentions.

The problem is the public is so brainwashed into accepting this behavior that most enthusiastically participate in the charade.

Just like Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party...not what we get fed by the media, but the average person in the street...they're the same. They want change. We all want change.

I think this is key to the problem. The MSM and the government are one in the same. Research the CFR members and the incestuous relationship between MSM and government.
And most of the sheeple blindly follow what is spewed out of their chosen form of propaganda.

It is far easier to point fingers and rant about what you are told to rant about than it is to make the effort of listening and understanding the other side, and then making an intelligent effort to express your own beliefs. Eventually after showing a little respect for others opinions, and not dismissing them because you are trained to automatically dismiss 'their point of view, we all come to a mutual solution that benefits all.

You know, just show a little respect and courtesy to everyone. Something sadly lacking in political discourse.

I know that is a fantasy but maybe one day humanity will grow up.