Flesh of the gods!

I have tried several times to make a book review about flesh of the gods, and about this subject in general,
I have read everything i can find, about this subject,
I have gathered a mountain of interesting information.


They have played a vital role in our evolution, and in the development of the human psyche.

I wish that i could tell you more, but if i make a thread about it, it will once again, be deleted. And my efforts are for nothing.
Well fortunately maybe a hundred people here, were lucky enough, to read, and participate in those dead threads.

Could ATS make an exception, about the flesh of the gods?

Why i cant tell people here, about the rituals of our ancestors? As human beings, it is our birthright to know.

The flesh of the gods were THE most important thing in ancient religions, so there is really no point even discussing about ancient belief systems, unless you talk about this subject also, because they are one and the same thing.

I am going to try again, when i have time, but the problem is, that people must understand, that the discussion needs to be limited to ancient times, nothing more, no personal or anything that is happening right now.

Otherwise the thread goes haywire.

(by the way, i think its a conspiracy in itself, that this subject is taboo)

Sorry for ranting.
Yog Sothoth!

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I'm no mod, but perhaps it's the way you're presenting your information in the topic that is the cause for the deletion of your threads.

"The Ritual Use of Hallucinogens" is fine if you're not suggesting to people to try and hallucinate. If that was the case, then I can see why the mods decided your thread was inappropriate. Nevertheless, it wasn't the subject that was taboo, it was the notion.

I know exactly what class of plants/fungi you are referring to. Shamanic cultures to this day continue to utilize them for initiatory rites.

I think that ATS is a bit excessive with said rule against even discussing. ATS is supposed to deny ignorance, not mirror the excesses and false information often extant within the War on Drugs. Part of denying ignorance and really investigating everything is being able to discuss any and anything.

Let's look at a parallel. ATS appears to outlaw discussing substances because they are illegal, frowned upon by society, or potentially dangerous. While all true, that says nothing to banning the discussion of them.

In many countries, freedom of speech, discussion of certain topics, and even driving for women is illegal. Should we not discuss those too now?

Because society frowns on discussing 911, should we not discuss it? I can tell you that I'll have heavier social consequences in person with people I know if I really discussed 911 conspiracy theories versus discussed drugs.

So why, ATS, especially related to this thread?

And please do not do what you did last time I said the same thing, i.e. send me a warning for merely questioning the rule.

a reply to: Ghost147

Those particular ones were strictly about our ancestors.

Researching this subject is one of my dear hobbies, and i need more information,
there is always someone, that can tell you something you don`t know.

a reply to: solve

you think Jesus is a Mushroom?
Havn't looked into that yet at all, but the little I have seen could be something there.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Good points, and i am not questioning a rule, i am simply asking an exception on this important subject.
And it needs to be limited to the discussion of ancient times, and maybe the indigenous tribes.

It is possible..

Maybe next time..

a reply to: solve

When I saw the title I thought of the movie about giant animals that try to devour people but that was Food of the Gods. Then I thought it was cannibalism until somebody mentioned mushrooms. That right there might be your problem. They have a no drug use discussion policy here. It would be the same if I wanted to do a thread on the Native American church and their use of peyote. It won't fly.

a reply to: solve

While I see your point, Skid pretty much wrapped it up with the last sentence in his post.

Is there a correlation with the yuggoth thing in your mini profile and the subject you're trying to raise?

Oh. From the title, I thought it was about cannibalism.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Oh. From the title, I thought it was about cannibalism.

Sort of it is....

Christians are familiar with a similar ritual..
The Blood and the Flesh..

You can learn a lot about people by checking their avatars and sigs..

I found the entire angle already.. No thread needed for me.

But PLEASE find a way to make it..

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Good points, and i am not questioning a rule, i am simply asking an exception on this important subject.
And it needs to be limited to the discussion of ancient times, and maybe the indigenous tribes.

It is possible..

Maybe next time..

originally posted by: Skid Mark
a reply to: solve

When I saw the title I thought of the movie about giant animals that try to devour people but that was Food of the Gods. Then I thought it was cannibalism until somebody mentioned mushrooms. That right there might be your problem. They have a no drug use discussion policy here. It would be the same if I wanted to do a thread on the Native American church and their use of peyote. It won't fly.

Yes, we understand that. However, within the "deny ignorance" goal of ATS, such a policy when it comes to discussing intellectually the role that said substances have played in myriad ancient and modern spiritual lineages is foolish. Is the policy really and truly "no discussion of substances at all, even within an anthropological or historical context?"

It's also a slippery slope. Banning the mere discussion of controversial topics doesn't really have an end and beginning. By this logic, we also shouldn't discuss a whole host of topics that are controversial, from CIA torture to 911.

Also, I understand a rule against ADVOCATING for illegal activities. This is very different from DISCUSSING currently illegal activities.

Perfect parallel: It should be forbidden to advocate for joining the Mafia, or ordering a hit on someone. What should NOT be banned is discussing the Mafia and its role in history.

If we are to ban the DISCUSSION of illegal activities, then where does it stop? Does ATS get to decide tomorrow that merely discussing CIA torture (which is illegal under international law) or government assassinations (which are also illegal), or possible rigged elections (also illegal), is banned on a conspiracy site?

It only takes a little bit of critical thinking to realize that the standard is a double one and a bit ridiculous.

The rule should be:

1) No advocating for the performance of illegal activities
2) Perfectly allowable to discuss in the context of a intellectual discussion the fact of illegal activities and their role in history

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Good points, and i am not questioning a rule, i am simply asking an exception on this important subject.
And it needs to be limited to the discussion of ancient times, and maybe the indigenous tribes.

It is possible..

Maybe next time..

I hear you. But why would it need to be limited intellectually to ancient times, when the tribes of Siberia, Northern Mexico and the US Southwest, and Amazon still engage in such activities? Why would any of it be wrong to simply discuss?

Anthropologists talk about it all of the time.....

Deny ignorance.

originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: solve

you think Jesus is a Mushroom?
Havn't looked into that yet at all, but the little I have seen could be something there.

Yes...

...and so is Santa Claus.

a reply to: solve

I have always found the mods to be friendly and helpful.

Perhaps you could ask THEM about the issue they have with your thread and then adjust it accordingly.

The 'complain' button at the top under the down arrow is not only for complaints.

I just used it recently for advice on what forum to place my thread in..

ETA: Instead of discussing, and complaining about the mods and the rules amongst ourselves you may find it more productive to discuss your issues in private with the staff.

You may even find a solution that way, unless that is not the desired goal.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

If ATS could limit the subject to ancient times, we could find a middle ground, so we could discuss about this easier.

a reply to: stosh64

Yes i have considered this,, i think i shall, there could be a way..

a reply to: Ashirah

All is connected,,

Why did people think this was about cannibalism? funny..

a reply to: solve

It's a very touchy subject for sure, and you will almost always have some funny guy wandering in and try to derail the thread promoting or bragging about their experience with certain substances.
I did a thread last year on John Allegro's theory concerning early Christianity and the sacred mushroom, and it was shut down when a few people went against the T&Cs.
Luckily it was reinstated when I contacted the mod and explained my intentions, so staff are pretty understanding around here.
I'd love to see your input, though I haven't read the book.

You rang?