Hundreds Expected for Mohammed Cartoon Contest Outside Phoenix Mosque

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: BigBrotherDarkness

Here's the thing... no one is trying to make it against the law to draw a cartoon.

This, a thousands times this.

This is not a rally for free speech, I don't care what anyone says.
It is a rally for hate.

The crowd seems to be close to equal in size, there are some in the crowd who are heavily armed.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Exactly.

If drawing a cartoon causes violence, there is a serious issue in the minds of those who it offends. How crazy do you have to be to get upset about a drawing? Even if its right next to a Mosque. Just another pathetic example of how religion just causes problems.

Good day

If folks burn the American flag and such, it's protected speech, so this is, too.

As for the "yelling fire in an auditorium" argument, what you're basically saying is that in this situation, they're automatically as dangerous as falsely yelling fire in an auditorium with a bunch of people that may panic.

Think about that for a second and then tell me how that's not discriminatory, inflammatory, and even more offensive than just the cartoon thing.

originally posted by: Bongripasaurus
If drawing a cartoon causes violence, there is a serious issue in the minds of those who it offends. How crazy do you have to be to get upset about a drawing? Even if its right next to a Mosque. Just another pathetic example of how religion just causes problems.

Good day

Hanging outside a place of worship with guns seems equally as sick.

Im still wondering how they connected those two from Texas back to this place, no one seems to want to answer that.

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originally posted by: Bongripasaurus
If drawing a cartoon causes violence, there is a serious issue in the minds of those who it offends. How crazy do you have to be to get upset about a drawing? Even if its right next to a Mosque. Just another pathetic example of how religion just causes problems.

Good day

This protest is not about that. It is about hate and going out of your way to instigate trouble.

Just because you can, should you be going out of your way to insult and spew hate.

a reply to: Bongripasaurus

It goes back to the beginnings of religion, it seems that it has never been about peace and love, at least when you do not share the same believes or worship the same icons, then again we most understand the laws behind some religions also.

a reply to: Sremmos80

I think you're looking for logic in people that think it's a dirty word.

Fox news spreads hate and lies about Muslims and now they are covering it and going what is with all the hate.

a reply to: Sremmos80

You think they were recruited in that In that place of worship?

a reply to: LDragonFire

It is making a point.. perhaps one the radicals will hear... it is not to threaten anyone's life who is doing no harm nor causing harm, it is to say.. we are not an unarmed citizenry..

ISIS has been making tons of threats lately... people have been dying over free speech... ISIS is threatening people who exercise their rights to free speech in countries where that speech is protected.. so they are making the statement "We are not an unarmed citizenry"

If the mosque goers agree with the freedom they have in this country, and don't want to see the crazies win through intimidation and threats, they are free to join the protestors..

they can show the extremists the same as a white man.. its about standing up and saying we wont take it. Muslims can join too.. I am sure no one said if you are Muslim you are not invited.. it is about standing up.

Geez, kind of idiotic to tell people not to come and worship because it may cause trouble.

I know it's a local FOX affiliate but I can't believe what I'm hearing from the commentators. I'm impressed.

a reply to: Sremmos80

What is your position on this rally?




My opinion is they are both hate, intimidation, baiting and wrong. But I would not deny the Muslims right to state their opinions either.

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: LDragonFire

It is making a point.. perhaps one the radicals will hear... it is not to threaten anyone's life who is doing no harm nor causing harm, it is to say.. we are not an unarmed citizenry..

ISIS has been making tons of threats lately... people have been dying over free speech... ISIS is threatening people who exercise their rights to free speech in countries where that speech is protected.. so they are making the statement "We are not an unarmed citizenry"

If the mosque goers agree with the freedom they have in this country, and don't want to see the crazies win through intimidation and threats, they are free to join the protestors..

they can show the extremists the same as a white man.. its about standing up and saying we wont take it. Muslims can join too.. I am sure no one said if you are Muslim you are not invited.. it is about standing up.

So you go after peaceful Muslims instead of the target group.

ISIS makes threats so let's target the peaceful ones. This has nothing to do with showing anything to ISIS or free speech, it is about hate pure and simple.

If you think otherwise, stop lying to yourself.

The anti protesters are between the protesters and the mosque and the police are separating them, seems pretty calm right now.

a reply to: marg6043

That is what is being said, that is the 'reason' they chose this location.