March Against Monsanto Explodes Globally

a reply to: reldra

I gave you the case law. I don't need anything else.

You gave a biased opinion of the case. The law is in the finding. You should read it.

So, it was on his farm, he owns it.

So, if you're at someone's house and forget your cellphone there, that person now owns your cellphone. You'd be perfectly ok with them selling it.

Got it.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: reldra

I gave you the case law. I don't need anything else.

You gave a biased opinion of the case. The law is in the finding. You should read it.

So, it was on his farm, he owns it.

So, if you're at someone's house and forget your cellphone there, that person now owns your cellphone. You'd be perfectly ok with them selling it.

Got it.

OH NOOOO. Apparently, some of this monsanto seed ended up on his farm. He didn't buy it, plant it purposefully. If the wind picks up my cell phone (which is android) and it lands in my neighbor's yard (and he is an Apple guy) I doubt my cell phone will cause any copywrite problems by existing in his yard. My phone, also, doesn't procreate. As far as I know, the Galaxy s5 is a pretty good phone, I haven't asked it yet.


That was your question. WHO has been sued for cross pollination. HE was.

a reply to: reldra

He didn't buy it, plant it purposefully.

He replanted it purposefully.

I doubt my cell phone will cause any copywrite problems by existing in his yard.

So you'd be ok with him selling it because, according to you, if it's on his land it's his.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: reldra

He didn't buy it, plant it purposefully.

He replanted it purposefully.

I doubt my cell phone will cause any copywrite problems by existing in his yard.

So you'd be ok with him selling it because, according to you, if it's on his land it's his.

He replanted what had already grown on his land.
And no, my neighbor should return the phone. A phone is a piece of property. Just like wen his garbage can blows onto my lawn.
A seed blows onto my lawn and a plant grows. The next year, I take the seeds from it and replant it. That is not the same and you know it.

a reply to: reldra

And no, my neighbor should return the phone. A phone is a piece of property.

You don't believe in intellectual property then? Artwork, literature, scientific inventions.

a reply to: Phage Of course I do. You are going to pull that argument where it should not go, though.

a reply to: reldra

You are going to pull that argument where it should not go, though.

What do you mean? Where should it go other than to court if someone sells someone else's property (intellectual or otherwise) without permission?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: reldra

You are going to pull that argument where it should not go, though.

What do you mean? Where should it go other than to court if someone sells someone else's property (intellectual or otherwise) without permission?

I mean seeds drifting onto other people's property and they get sued for it growing there. And for replanting it there after it has grown once. Monsanto has even copywrited the names of heirloom seeds they did not make in their quest to own all the agriculture.

a reply to: reldra

I mean seeds drifting onto other people's property and they get sued for it growing there. And for replanting it there after it has grown once.

Then selling it. Like selling your cellphone.

Monsanto has even copywrited the names of heirloom seeds they did not make in their quest to own all the agriculture.

You can't copyright a name but you can trademark it. You have a problem with trademarks too? Poor Xerox, they never could get people to stop using their trademark as a verb.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: reldra

I mean seeds drifting onto other people's property and they get sued for it growing there. And for replanting it there after it has grown once.

Then selling it. Like selling your cellphone.

You claiming you're not defending monsanto is one of the strangest most contradictory things I've read on here in a while, especially since you just keep on going and going and going, with no clear motive or actual arguments. If it's not for them that you are doing this, then why is it, because you adore the taste of GMO corn so much you want all your corn products to be made with them?


Get over yourself, if you have the right to eat and choose GMO, other people have the right to not eat it and purchase products they feel good about, whether that is scientifically backed to your standards or not, doesn't matter one flying bit, if person A can sell a sock in a wrapper and people buy it, while the scumbag B that sells cheap real gold watches doesn't get one sale, don't you think that maybe person B has a serious image problem too? No, you're blinded by the pretty products they're offering, ignoring the fact that you're being scammed by a known scumbag. If monsanto has an image problem, why not address it at the root? Nope, they self-destruct by acting AGAINST the public. If monsanto is a nice company with our best interests in mind, they would simply label gmo, just like every basic startup company has to be honest about their products or fail the punishment that are todays informed markets


If monsanto were a fresh young company, it would be the laughing stock of the internet. With an image like that, any non-corrupted company would have long gone under. The only thing they have is money, lots of it, but luckily, money doesn't buy real friends, only fake science.





"I thought you were done here?"

a reply to: Phage

All cute. But cellphones don't grow naturally in the earth and so I used the wrong word. Monsanto will trademark all grass soon, if any of their trademarked material is found in it. Let's just hand over our lawns now. Make it easier on ourselves.

a reply to: reldra

But cellphones don't grow naturally in the earth and so I used the wrong word.

And Roundup resistant canola is not natural either. See, that's the problem. That intellectual property thing.

Monsanto will trademark all grass soon, if any of their trademarked material is found in it.

You should look into how many trademarked plants there are, not all Monsanto. But a trademark just means you can't call your tomatoes "Big Bitchin Tomatoes" if I have the trademark. That's it.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Phage

All cute. But cellphones don't grow naturally in the earth and so I used the wrong word. Monsanto will trademark all grass soon, if any of their trademarked material is found in it. Let's just hand over our lawns now. Make it easier on ourselves.

Cross contamination of the (future) dominant resistant strains, with every other strain, is not a possibility he wants to even consider. Where do cross contaminated species fall under trademark, Phage?


What happens when an iphone and an android phone make love and have baby cellphones, who owns the patent, apple?


Since you think GMO can be compared to cellphones, I'm sure you have this one figured out

a reply to: HalfLeaf

Where do cross contaminated species fall under trademark, Phage?

You mean patent. That has yet to be determined in a court of law. There never has been such a case.

What happens when an iphone and an android phone make love and have baby cellphones, who owns the patent, apple?

That's not the way it works.

originally posted by: Phage

Monsanto will trademark all grass soon, if any of their trademarked material is found in it.

You should look into how many trademarked plants there are, not all Monsanto. But a trademark just means you can't call your tomatoes "Big Bitchin Tomatoes" if I have the trademark. That's it.

Wow, liar liar pants on fire

Their patent goes way beyond that and you damn well know it, wtf?...

a reply to: HalfLeaf
Yes, but we were talking about their (and other) trademarks. Not their patents. They are not the same thing.

Hint: "Tylenol" is a trademark. It is not a patent.

The patent for glyphosate has expired. Many companies now manufacture it but only Monsanto can call it Roundup.


I don't like being called a liar, btw.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: HalfLeaf

Where do cross contaminated species fall under trademark, Phage?

You mean patent. That has yet to be determined in a court of law. There never has been such a case.

What happens when an iphone and an android phone make love and have baby cellphones, who owns the patent, apple?

That's not the way it works.

Is troll better then? The cute ones, with the pink hair, not the ugly green ones. You know full well I meant patent, I just read a page full of "copyright" "trademark" and "patent", I know very well what they all mean and don't need your cute lessons in order to avoid answering the actual question, thank you.


So you don't know? Cute, maybe you should research a bit more before talking then. The fact that this is unknown to you doesn't bother you one bit? The fact that it is possible all future corn will be cross contaminated with patented monsanto strains? Really strange, I don't think you care one bit about this other than arguing for the sake of arguing. Maybe you just have something against anti-gmo people? Likely, since all you do is incite with your deliberately ignorant oneliners.


There, another ad hoc, I simply hate arguing with people like you, you bring nothing to the table but disdain for everyone else at it. Zero facts, you only dance around my arguments, and when you do address something, it looks like the quote above, simply laughable.


Just report me and show how small minded you are on this subject, please, I can't stand to read another "but if tomatoes are red than doesn't that mean carrots are crossbred to look more appealing?"

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Elementalist

It's endless, and your on every anti GMO thread that gets attention.

I'm on a lot of threads that get attention.
What's your point? I shouldn't post anything that disagrees with anyone about anything?

No sir, I for one appreciate your straight forward'ness', getting facts to the ats community.

But, we as a community know your stance and view on such topics, including GMO and it's labeling. You've reminded us 100's of times..

Give it a rest.

That's my point.

a reply to: HalfLeaf

Huh. The topic just turned in me.

a reply to: Elementalist

You've reminded us 100's of times..

In three months?

Give it a rest.

Oh, I will. When nonsense stops being spouted.