Tired of grand theories, just do what you want

a reply to: Manula

If I want to kidnap you and torture you because that's my gig don't you think that might interfere with your gig? Your life each and every day for 80 years is a prisoner having lemon juice poured in paper cuts ( sorry that's as evil as I can dream ). Or forced to listen to beiber all day.

That's where do as thou will falls apart. That's why the golden rule is needed. Do as thou will as long as you're not a dick to other people.

Love is the key here. That's why Jesus was such a radical and got killed by the religious. He said there is only this , to love. We could all be doing our own thing happy as clams as long as our thing doesn't deprive others of their thing. But to do that sometimes you have to temper your thing.

An example. Let's say we are divvying up the land for all people. Some may be happy with a small parcel in the hills. Some may want a bigger area so they can have horses. But then some a- holes want to take all the land that has oil and gold because their thing is power and control and world domination. If they were loving they would see that hey enslaving vast people's and raping the land so that they can live a carefree life is not cool. And then we could all have our thing.

But they are actually living by your dictate. And that's why our world is so effed. In general I agree we should be free to do our thing. I would love to live in an anarchy ( not the media version but the real definition of self governance free of heirarchy-- ). But that can't happen until people start loving one another.

There are some who can't break out of negativity, they're very badly damaged, sometimes it can even be a malfunction or genetic error in the bodysuit, but circumstances especially in early childhood can be irreparable save for a massive miracle intervention. In which case, when they're breaking the law or falling into lower mind, they're not exactly themselves and sin or fault is something that you have to be able to control. When your core is shattered you don't have the same level of responsibility as others do.

But everyone is responsible for those things they can choose, and to ignore their conscience is not a good thing. It has consequences.

The God experiences everything through us is a dark side program. That God is Sirius B and its Saturn/Moon based outposts. In other words, ET/Entity archon types. There is a whole theory about the dark side, dead stars, wiping human memories in a soul strap, stealing our knowledge and experiences, ie the real gold the annanuki were mining, and using our negative and positive electrical charges to jumpstart their dead stars or dead souls. In one regression by Mary Rodwell, souls were trapped in boxes and their electrical charges were powering crafts, souls used to power crafts.
Breaking free from this incredible slavery by evil beings, is in your best interest, and everyone's best interests.

Imagine Higher Mind/Progressed Infinite God/Source/Tao of Love. Everything is all at once, and there is No Time, any God that would have to learn how to rape a trillion times over in a century, must be retarded, or Finite.

a reply to: Manula

At least you admitted they are only theories. But one can listen to his higher self only when one has control over his mind. Its a pointless advice if the reader doesnt got a certain maturity and im talking about soul maturity not conformity.

All your theories about right or wrong, the Great Being wants to live the bad guy too, just be who you are, progression is inevitable, whatever you do.

originally posted by: Manula

originally posted by: stosh64
So, just "do what thou wilt"?

That mentality is working out so well for the world.

if that was the ruling mindset, society would be much better.

It IS the ruling mindset.

2nd

originally posted by: bb23108
a reply to: Manula
You made a major addition to your original op - this is not the op I responded to initially. It sounds more balanced now.

It is not the OP I responded to either.

I love when OP's state one thing, then take a little heat for that statement, then go back and edit out the more controversial points.

Makes the thread pointless.

originally posted by: Enlil2215
I'd have to disagree with you on this. Any action whether acted upon or concieved in the mind is not judged by a feeling-intelligence. It's weighed and judged by the values we grew up with and continue to learn as we age.

The only reason any individual's actions are not in sync with their inherent heart-based morality is because that individual is not sensitive to the core of their being - the depth of feeling-awareness arising in and as the heart.

When we awaken to this depth, the understanding that we are not separate from our environment and others, but are altogether connected, comes to the front - and on this basis, our inherent morality is obvious. We are then free of the childhood conditioning (whether so called good or bad) that typically controls our actions, and are now free to act with love and responsibility, non-separate from the Whole.

a reply to: stosh64

I suppose "do only what authorities allow us to" is better?

The only reason we have laws are to protect people from stupid people.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
The only reason we have laws are to protect people from stupid people.

Well some laws just make things more efficient and safer too - such as traffic light laws.

But yes, until we truly understand our situation here, and are founded in our inherent morality, a whole lot of laws are necessary.

a reply to: bb23108

A traffic light isn't a law.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

A traffic light isn't a law.

I edited my post before reading your response, figuring you might say that. Obeying traffic lights are the law - and these laws make sense for the sake of efficiency and safety. Does this make more sense to you now?

a reply to: bb23108

Traffic lights are for efficiency and safety. Traffic light laws are to deter idiots.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: stosh64

I suppose "do only what authorities allow us to" is better?

The only reason we have laws are to protect people from stupid people.

In our current state the 'authorities' use 'law' to control us as they get to do what they will.

Then said authorities encourage the sheeple to do the same while using their laws to further more control.

Their laws are not about protection or stupid people, they are all about control.

a reply to: stosh64

That simply isn't the case. Authorities live in the same communities and follow the same laws. It's not about control at all.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: bb23108

Traffic lights are for efficiency and safety. Traffic light laws are to deter idiots.

So you would like others to be subjective about when to run a red light and when to not? Or to have no laws for passing a drivers license exam nor even the necessary vision?

Some people may not know that a red light means to stop unless they take the necessary time to study, etc., and without such laws, would they even know to study all of this and practice beforehand? I suppose in a very strong community this could be handled internally, but until that time, these laws are good.

In the meantime, your approach might encourage a lot of us to use mass transportation more!

You guys are missing the point, evolution is unstoppable, we dont need to worry about being good, life after life, experience from being there done that, will bring wisdom, love, good decisions, compassion etc. You dont get there with theories and intellectualizing things, you get there because you lived it, you know how it is to do good and bad, knowledge and consciousness come from being the bad guy and the good guy, you live all sides of the story, you live victim and the agressor, and its this diversity that He wants to live through us.
But to do this we are guided by our WILL.
This is the point.

originally posted by: Manula
its this diversity that He wants to live through us.

I understand your point and I disagree with the light and love brigade but I don't buy into the idea of a "great being".

Does he really need to experience being smacked into oblivion to the soundtrack of "god damn skeeters" trillions of time to get the idea of what that experience is like?

a reply to: Manula
So you have to hit yourself on the head with a hammer to tell you this hurts? No thanks, this is not necessary.

Your approach is assuming that we are idiots to begin with and that we have to learn the hard way - by trial and error.

This understanding of what is right and wrong is inherent in the heart - the very Source Light whom we are all modifications of. It does not take myself to become a murderer to know murder is inherently wrong. My heart already knows this - inherently - because the heart already is connected with the Source and therefore all beings.

Recognize one's inherent connection with the heart-Source, Conscious Light - and all this seeking to evolve and learning the hard way can be circumvented.

a reply to: bb23108

The point is that "heart-Source, Conscious Light" wants to feel loved and protected as well as beaten and raped. Wants to be the loving caring person as well as the rapist.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End: revelations.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen: doxology