Whats in our Skies? Biocides?

a reply to: BlackProject
BTW, biocides are also used by truckers and boaters. Why pick on jets?
www.google.com...

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: BlackProject

There is a lot of unusual elements found in rain water these days, one of which is aluminium, which occurs nowhere in nature naturally.

Aluminum is something like the third most abundant element in the Earth's crust, right behind oxygen and silicon.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I am mainly looking for the proprietary ingredients which would be very difficult to find I would imagine.

a reply to: enament

What type of aluminum are you referring to and in what state. I refer to aluminum as the metal.

So, you think that metallic (elemental) aluminum is found in rain water? How does that happen?
I guess you don't know much about chemistry.

Your source:

All of the earth's aluminum has combined with other elements to form compounds. Two of the most common compounds are alum, such as potassium aluminum sulfate (KAl(SO4)2·12H2O), and aluminum oxide (Al2O3). About 8.2% of the earth's crust is composed of aluminum.

education.jlab.org...

a reply to: Bedlam

Not in its pure metal form though. Read the first paragraph. education.jlab.org...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: enament

What type of aluminum are you referring to and in what state. I refer to aluminum as the metal.

So, you think that metallic (elemental) aluminum is found in rain water? How does that happen?

Beer cans. That would do it.

a reply to: enament

I am mainly looking for the proprietary ingredients which would be very difficult to find I would imagine.

Not really. Additives are regulated.

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: Bedlam

Not in its pure metal form though. Read the first paragraph. education.jlab.org...

Are you seriously trying to claim that free metallic aluminum is present in rainwater?

a reply to: enament

Read the first paragraph.

So you think elemental aluminum is found in rainwater? How can that happen?
Read the rest of the paragraph.

a reply to: Phage

You still haven't answered my question though. You remind me of a politician.

a reply to: Phage

Well I was aiming towards the point formaldehyde being one chemical found in biocides, being a carcinogen and its ability to damage the genome causing cancers, being part of DNA of that person and thus possibly being passed on. This is referring to my original post but could be applied to the older tests taken in our past as I am sure more severe chemicals or similar would have been used. I know formaldehydes are found all around us also but maybe not in such large quantities being rained down daily and also I guess other substances could be used or have been used.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Iwinder

It was a test to see how effectively the could kill people.

If that's the case, it didn't work very well, did it?

I don't know for sure Phage, do you?
Lots of sick people right now and one of the most common is
Lungs and breathing issues. www.mc.vanderbilt.edu...


Regards, Iwinder
sorry for the double link

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I am mainly looking for the proprietary ingredients which would be very difficult to find I would imagine.

Where are you looking?

a reply to: BlackProject

I know formaldehydes are found all around us also but maybe not in such large quantities being rained down daily and also I guess other substances could be used or have been used.

So, you're very concerned about airplane exhaust but not auto, train, truck, and ship exhaust.
Why?

a reply to: Iwinder
Like I said, if the idea was to kill people, it's not working very well.

A reminder of your statement:

It was a test to see how effectively the could kill people.

a reply to: Phage

I have read into some regulations regarding such additives but a lot of the documentation seem vague. Similar to that of pharmacy companies and making money, I guess you could ask the question which is more important. Big business or transparent regulations for public eyes.

a reply to: Phage

I am concerned about all chemicals being transmitted into our air, just I mentioned about planes due to something I found and felt worthwhile to mention.

a reply to: BlackProject

I have read into some regulations regarding such additives but a lot of the documentation seem vague.

If you really put your heart into it, it's amazing what you can find out. Additives, like drugs, are patented. Those patents tell you what the additives are composed of.

But that's actual research. That's haaarrrd.

a reply to: BlackProject
So you put it in the "chemtrail" and geoengineering forum instead of fragile earth. Seems like you're concerned about something alright, and it isn't trucks.

I'd ask my congressman about it if I were you.

a reply to: enament

What type of aluminum are you referring to and in what state. I refer to aluminum as the metal.

And yet you post a link to the element named Aluminum.

Read the first paragraph, and understand

Just because it has to bond to other elements doesn't change the fact that it is still aluminum and can still make it's way into rain water.