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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
This protects business owners.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
This would allow a business owner who was a devout Christian to refuse service to a gay couple because their lifestyle conflicts with Christian beliefs.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
What I don't get is forcing those that are not in favor due to religious beliefs, being forced to marry same sex couples.
This is absolutely NOT about forcing anyone to marry anyone. It's about the government not being able to step in and rectify discrimination in businesses.
Lousiana Governor Bobby Jindal on Tuesday (19 May) issued an executive order allowing businesses to turn away LGBTI customers, two hours after a House panel rejected a 'religious freedom' bill.
'I’m issuing an Executive Order to prevent the state from discriminating against people, charities and family-owned businesses with deeply held religious beliefs that marriage is between one man and one woman,' the Republican said. - See more at: www.gaystarnews.com...
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: FlyersFan
I don't believe it has to be a religion based business. I think it's any business who's owner's have devout beliefs so a flooring store owned by devout Christians can refuse to sell carpet to a gay couple.
'I’m issuing an Executive Order to prevent the state from discriminating against people, charities and family-owned businesses with deeply held religious beliefs that marriage is between one man and one woman,' the Republican said.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
This would allow a business owner who was a devout Christian to refuse service to a gay couple because their lifestyle conflicts with Christian beliefs.
It would also protect a religious business from being forced to go against their religious beliefs. Like a Jewish kosher deli being forced to serve bacon or a Muslim restaurant having to serve wine. (not good examples, but you get the idea).
I'm very much in favor of marriage equality. But I'm also very much in favor of freedom of religion which includes freedom to run a family owned business with religious principles (no matter if those religious beliefs are wonky to me). So I'll wait until I read the expected executive order before commenting further.
This warrants watching .... I'm glad it was posted.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
It would also protect a religious business from being forced to go against their religious beliefs.
“Person” is defined in 1 USC 1: “In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise—…the words ‘person’ and ‘whoever’ include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals;…”
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... government should take no adverse action to: Deny or exclude such person from receiving any state grant, contract, cooperative agreement, loan, professional license, certification, accreditation, employment, or other similar position or status;
originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: beezzer
Religious Institutions already recognise gay marriage, albeit recognised negatively by most of these religious institutions, but recognised nonetheless. Whether they will recognise gay marriage positively or negatively is up to the individuals who make up the institution. (answering your post question here)
Just like ATS the religious institution is a nothing more than a collection of individuals bound together by Terms and Conditions and a common thought-pattern and world view-point - some will be happy and accepting of the idea, others will not and still others will leave - or be banned..
BUT - you cannot force someone to like an idea (or in the case of your post - force an institution to like or accept a law), nor can a bullet kill it...........only a better idea can do that.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
My question is still, why would a gay man/woman/couple even WANT to frequent a business that doesn't want them there?
Either way, unless they are walking in announcing they are gay when they open the door, how would the business know?
originally posted by: theantediluvian
Correct me if I'm wrong but Louisiana doesn't recognize same sex marriage so at this point *no one* is being compelled to have any involvement in same sex marriages because they don't exist in Louisiana.
So then what's the point of the legislation?
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I see a law like this making a loophole for Christian business owners being able to file their business as a Christian business solely for this reason......
My question is still, why would a gay man/woman/couple even WANT to frequent a business that doesn't want them there
Either way, unless they are walking in announcing they are gay when they open the door, how would the business know?