Muhammad's New Hobby: Girlfriend Burning

Originally posted by DrHoracid
The more science one learns the more one muct come to realize life is no accident. Devine engineering is all around you. Embrace it. Darwinisim was created by a guy who flunked out of "priest school". There is no evidence of "evilution".

Sigh: I must add #5 to your list:

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.


[edit on 12/27/04 by FredT]

Originally posted by DrHoracid
Nice Dogma but I must answer 10-1 with NO. How could you answer Yes? You would never do that, and not just you, but anyone that fell in this whole, they would lie to themselves before they would give a true answer.

Originally posted by DrHoracid
There is but ONE god, the father of Jesus Christ. All others as false and pagan. The bible teaches submission of the wife to her husband not killing them for anything they wish as in Islam.

Niaouli - I thank you for your enlightenment. Islam is a false, pagan, satanic, evil, unjust, subhuman, religion. Mohamed inparticular was a "con" artist nothing more.

Just because this is what you believe...does not make it true....if you can't prove it, you should really try not to state it as an absolute fact because it's not. I do have a question for you though and I am honestly not trying to be smart a$$ at all, I have wondered this before......you seem to be a hard core Christian....what's with the vampire to represent yourself? I have that one on my site, so I noticed it.....just curious.

I have no data on the true age of the earth. There is no time line for between creation and Adam. From Adam down the timeline is approx 6000 years. Adam was not the first 'man' he was the first in a line to David and then to Christ.

Originally posted by DrHoracid
I have no data on the true age of the earth. There is no time line for between creation and Adam. .

Do you? No timeline, you would think the writers would have made a point to make this clear so there would be no confusion.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by DrHoracid
I have no data on the true age of the earth. There is no time line for between creation and Adam. .

Do you? No timeline, you would think the writers would have made a point to make this clear so there would be no confusion.

The written did, its in the bible code. Just haven't ask yet.

Note to self: ask codes how old earth is..........

Originally posted by DrHoracid
I have no data on the true age of the earth. There is no time line for between creation and Adam. From Adam down the timeline is approx 6000 years. Adam was not the first 'man' he was the first in a line to David and then to Christ.

Sigh :shk: do I have to chalk up #3 on you as well:

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

Thats what 5 now?

How can you even trust the bible at any rate? is it not the best evidence you have right: Explain these contradictions:

Man was created after the other animals Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals Gen 2:18,19

There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:2-6

Christ is equal with God John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God John 14:28/ Matt 24:36

Jesus was all-powerful Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful Mark 6:5

I could go on for days and days with this. Given the numerous contradictions and errors, how is your firm belief any different than say the Church of Scientology? Afterall, there may have been a forefather of L. Ron Hubbard, cranking out a dark ages version of Dianetics for all we know.

How could I miss the code, if its not in plain sight, it has to be a code.

I grow tired of the closed minded.

Ooh...Oooh Fred.

Did you add mine to her list? Lost count.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

regs out...

Regs,

I think based on replies to this thread we are looking at at least 7 of the ten and If we count the number of times that #10 has been violated, it may be like 30

[edit on 12/27/04 by FredT]

LOL...True, true...Anyways, don't see any response from the little offended, closed minded, always right, never wrong, Dogma spouting Dr here. Begining to wonder when the intelligent conversation is going to begin. Would think that a Dr, you know, someone who believes in science enough to study it, would have enough intelligence to know not to make statements that can't be backed up by evidence. Oh well, such is life I suppose.

regs out...

All science is has gods fingerprints on them. His signature for those wise enough to see it.

I will try to answer your questions.

"Man was created after the other animals Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals Gen 2:18,19"

Doc' answer - Two seperate things. One inside the garden one outside. The garden "may" have been a protected area from the influence of "sons of God" ie visiting aliens who though women were "hot".

"There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:17
There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David Matt 1:2-6 "

Doc' answer -Sorry I count 14.

Christ is equal with God John 10:30/ Phil 2:5
Christ is not equal with God John 14:28/ Matt 24:36

Doc's answer - did your father tell you everything?

Jesus was all-powerful Matt 28:18/ John 3:35
Jesus was not all-powerful Mark 6:5

Doc's answer - There are rules to this "game" (no pun and don't go off on me). Christ was sent to prove God's love for man, even if we throw it in his face too often. Having the "power" and chosing how and when to use it is is "devine".

You brought up Adam and Eve in an earlier post. Is it true that Adam and eve based on your beliefs are the mother and Father of mankind? Is it not true that they brought sin upon the earth by eating the fruit of knowledge?

Originally posted by FredT
You brought up Adam and Eve in an earlier post. Is it true that Adam and eve based on your beliefs are the mother and Father of mankind? Is it not true that they brought sin upon the earth by eating the fruit of knowledge?

Adam was the first in the garden. I know where you are going with this. No they did not bring "sin" to earth. They sinned greatly but I find no where that they were the first. It is assume they were the first just as many misguided think they were the first man and woman. The first "sin" may have been the sons of god and daughters of man thingy. It pissed god off pretty good.

Let me ask this, If the Jews would have accepted Jesus as thier own, would jews be christians or would christians be jews?

Originally posted by DrHoracid
They sinned greatly but I find no where that they were the first. It is assume they were the first just as many misguided think they were the first man and woman. It pissed god off pretty good.

So even if not the first could you say mankind is being punished for the origional sins?

Originally posted by DrHoracid


Adam was the first in the garden. I know where you are going with this. No they did not bring "sin" to earth. They sinned greatly but I find no where that they were the first. It is assume they were the first just as many misguided think they were the first man and woman. The first "sin" may have been the sons of god and daughters of man thingy. It pissed god off pretty good.

So they where not the first humans?

How did they get the priveledge of naming the animals if they weren't the first?

Originally posted by regs
How did they get the priveledge of naming the animals if they weren't the first?

Are we at a restaurant? cause somebody just got served.

Since we are focusing on Genesis:

God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?

[edit on 12/27/04 by FredT]

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by DrHoracid
They sinned greatly but I find no where that they were the first. It is assume they were the first just as many misguided think they were the first man and woman. It pissed god off pretty good.

So even if not the first could you say mankind is being punished for the origional sins?

Original sin may have been Lucifer and the war in heaven. God does "punish" man for sin by removing his "grace" and in some instances direct "wrath". Yes I am "parsing" the word "original". Man has the ability to stop all that has happened. Man just doesn't excercise that ability very well. Oh, can't discount the effects of those fallen angels either.