The God of Enlightenment is not Satan

sad part of all this is that the "enlightened ones" don't realize they are actually paying homage to jesus and calling him satan, and calling satan, god. they are attributing the kindnesses of jesus, to the horrors of the old testament jehovah and thereby excusing their own satan like concepts such as wiping out mammoth swaths of the planet's population, to reshape it however they please. they believe this behavior is god like.

i just don't know what to say except: i sure hope the rapture is true. would be funny if the day they decided to wipe everyone out, we all suddenly vanished to a nice, beautiful location. cause i'm thinking some of them are so far gone, they actually thrill at the idea of killing people enmasse.

originally posted by: Abednego
John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.[\i]

There you have your serpent.

I like that snake.. He is me.. He may also be satan who knows.. It's all so muddied and the Gods being split up or taking multiple roles.. RA is the SUN but he is also the rising sun and the setting sun, which are by themselves gods..

So to me it's sort of fractal. There always seems to be 3 main ones.. Usually depicted as 2 brothers and a sister, who killed their parents, and then the next line of Gods calls themselves God, and then their kids kill them and take their place..

Well there are 7,000,000,000 of us, and I am not so sure we are not that same guy..

In basics it makes up human psychology. In this way we are all Satan... We are all God..

And really as far as names go I can tell that Satan is Santa Clause is Klaus from Originals who is satan, who is the wolf, St nicholaus (ni klaus).. Patron st of wolves.. The Wolf is the one who swallows the Sun (Setting sun ie SET) Pluto... Jesus is the other part of the Big God.. He is the Rising sun part..

Part of the confusion in the bible is the first guy does get killed by Satan (in Star wars, the war in heaven), and that first guy is the father or mother or both of God the good brother, and God the bad brother, and there may be a sister somewhere named ISIS....

Anyway, we are still dealing with all the psychological issues and Karma of all the "sins" from way back then as the pattern of psychology and therefore history are played out into infinity.. I think this is mapped in our DNA. I also think our DNA is written by our life as well as by our parents lives..

If you watch Jupiter Ascending.. Jupiter is the Good guy.. He's the Stag.. He's the Noble one.. I think he also died.. That's at least what people who look up to his brother say.. Anyway.. The guy in charge in the movie who killed his mom.. He's Pluto or Neptune, but I would go with Pluto.. I forget his name in the movie, but he owns the rights to earth.. He has the title..

You see I say God the good peaceful guy in the bible, that God died, because he seems to be getting reincarnated as Jesus, and others, and in Jupiter Rising you see that Jupiter/Zeus, is a reincarnated Human...

Satan tries to give the entire world to Jesus which he could only do because he has the title.. He is NOT NOT NOT the dude who wants us gaining control.. Basically we as humans are usurping his title to earth.. Maybe he stole earth or whatever, and it's ok we are taking it away.. I don't know, but this is the general beef we have with Satan..

Satan is the one who puts coal in your stockings if you are bad..
Jesus is the one who Loves you anyway, and wants to see you do greater things than he.
Satan thinks of humans as imperfect creatures undeserving of free will and spiritual life..
Jesus is the one who tells you to become full of light if your eye be single..

So many lies to confuse christians into being followers of Satan without knowing it..

Obviously the bible is written way after the fact of the war in heaven or any of these other ideas.. So therefore thatfirst God would not be there to write the bible.. And if you check into it.. Basically all their names mean "Lord of the Earth people." "Most high Lord of the Earth people." The most high Lord doesn't stay the same guy...

originally posted by: undo
full body regen = tree of life. it was blocked (nerfed), so it no longer unzipped (the serpent lost its legs)

My question is can the DNA of Enki be unzipped?
We assume Enlil wanted to prevent this, but maybe
by modulating the eletrostatic field when an egg
is fertilized. Then the "primeval code" of the Zygote
can be altered (dubbed the 'Ebner Effect').

Unexpectedly primeval organisms grew out of these seeds and eggs: a fern that no botanist was able to identify; primeval corn with up to twelve ears per stalk; wheat that was ready to be harvested in just four to six weeks. A giant trout, extinct in Europe for 130 years, with so-called salmon hooks. It was as if these organisms accessed their own genetic memories on command in the electric field...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

In these experiments the seeds and eggs were briefly
exposed to an eletrostatic field, a high voltage field
without any flowing current.

originally posted by: undo
sad part of all this is that the "enlightened ones" don't realize they are actually paying homage to jesus and calling him satan, and calling satan, god. they are attributing the kindnesses of jesus, to the horrors of the old testament jehovah and thereby excusing their own satan like concepts such as wiping out mammoth swaths of the planet's population, to reshape it however they please. they believe this behavior is god like.

i just don't know what to say except: i sure hope the rapture is true. would be funny if the day they decided to wipe everyone out, we all suddenly vanished to a nice, beautiful location. cause i'm thinking some of them are so far gone, they actually thrill at the idea of killing people enmasse.

You are right in what you say here, though I think that the first God is the Father of Both Jesus and Satan.. It comes in from every angle I have ever looked into.. In the Show Lost the Mother is basically something of Gaia, or Easter.. The Twins are "the dark man" and Jacob (jacobs ladder to heaven)..

I don't know about the Rapture but it does seem like the Jesus dude really did pull that crazy trick whatever it was..

Don't forget that Satan is kind of Statanic.. Reminds me of being punished.. reminds me of Germany or Dark forest, or just weird Dark fairy tales??

So I imagine if we are nearing a level of global society that must be stopped again by satan that we are in for some pain.. It's ok though.. I'm still part of god even if I die. But for sure I won't live under a hierarchical Pyramid of military minded angels.. It's like Fascism.. It's the caste system.. It's Money how it's currently used..

I'll play the Jesus character, even if it's just an idea.. the Earth is still real, and trying to change it for good is a good idea whether any gods ever existed or anything else..

This is the battle for Middle Earth..

a reply to: wasaka
The answer is yes, it can be done. That's the reason for taking Adam and Eve out of the Garden to prevent them to eat from the Tree of Life; can you imagine Albert Einstein immortal? What crazy ideas or discoveries he can came up?
So we got our lifespan reduce according the bible. And last we got our languages confound, so we can not agree in anything.

a reply to: wasaka

presumably yes. i think the book of life is related to this. and no one can open it, except the guy who created it and sealed it, who, in the book of revelation we learn, is jesus.

Rev 5:2

And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?


Rev 5:3

And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.


Rev 5:4

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev 5:5

And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

of course he could! he had to put the seals on it in the first place.

originally posted by: Abednego
a reply to: wasaka
The answer is yes, it can be done. That's the reason for taking Adam and Eve out of the Garden to prevent them to eat from the Tree of Life; can you imagine Albert Einstein immortal? What crazy ideas or discoveries he can came up?
So we got our lifespan reduce according the bible. And last we got our languages confound, so we can not agree in anything.

if i understand the babel story, it was not so we wouldn't agree, it's so we wouldn't end up under a world order, because the world belongs to the bad guy, so he would be in complete control of everyone. instead, the planet's people were split up between the sons of god, 70 of them, i do believe it says. it's in like deuteronomy 32, but the king james, if i recall, screws it up by saying it was divided amongst the sons of israel, when older translations say sons of god and even angels. this is important because israel didn't exist yet, and yet it says the people of israel were under the rule of michael the archangel. to detangle that, you either have to assume it was a case of foreshadowing in which israel is anybody in the line of moses since he's the one being quoted, or someone wrote that in, afterwards to make it sound like israel had claim to the whole planet.

a reply to: KnightLight

how much info do you have on the pre-adamic world?

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: KnightLight

how much info do you have on the pre-adamic world?

None. I learn by random whatever comes to me.. So since you brought it up.. got a new search for today.

I grew up anti religious. Very liberal town, mostly hippies.. Somehow my scientific studies, and curiosity have led me full circle. Comparing many words and etymology, comparing religions and gods and angels.. Psychology..

It seems that angels are no different from what god is, and no different from what we can be..

Anyway I have no idea what came before Adam..

I've read the bible once or twice.. Not really up to speed on all the fine details.

a reply to: undo

Actually want to know my true theory??

I think we were all set up to go down this path.. By God and By Satan working together..

I think we were given everything to start off so we knew it was there, and how awesome everything can all be.. We had ZERO intelligence so we were innocent.. Now if you are a God creating a free will being so far you have messed up unless everything is going to plan.. Then you make man mortal and intelligent, naked and in the wildernesss.. Go back to Start do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars..

Satan is the Fire that smelts our sword/soul into growth and perfection..

They both want angels who have free will.. You can not create an angel with free will.. You have to start off with a less dangerous being..

I think our worlds being reset (is this the 6th world now? the 5th??) so that we don't progress into leaving the Earth until we are forces of good not forces of bad.. So I think "God" or "Satan." Put's on the "end of the world" show and we are reset back to the wilderness..

Good Cop Bad Cop..
and the end game??
More angels..

Could be???
haha

a reply to: KnightLight

well you had mentioned the war of the angels. any extra details?

a reply to: KnightLight

oh i think the only reason any of us turn to doing bad things is due to lack of real data (or a medical/emotional/mental problem).

a reply to: KnightLight

according to sumerian texts, the earth underwent a devastating cataclysm. when the anunnaki returned to the planet, they had to rebuild everything. they were the survivors of the cataclysm. enlil was in charge. some of the junior anunnaki had been tasked with the labor of replanting the crops, rebuilding the canals and infrastructure, mining the ore, etc.

enlil worked them too hard and eventually they went on strike (rebelled). he called on enki to solve the problem. enki rebuffed him, stating that enlil worked them too hard, so of course, they grew angry (enki was like our genetic forefather as a species so naturally he was defending us). enki's solution was to make the junior anunnaki procreative. the only conclusion being, that before that, replacements were cloned rather than procreated and as a result were limited supply.

theoretically, these junior anunnaki were the first "adam" made in the image of elohim (anunnaki), meaning they were cloned in the image of the anunnaki, by enki. by enki giving them procreation, enlil would have an endless supply of workers, but enlil hated this because he didn't want to us to overpopulate his planet, and thus you see the fall narrative.

originally posted by: undo

originally posted by: Elementalist
The bible isn't the only references to life.

The god in the bible does not want enlightened beings, does not want you to worship or give love anything but it, and does not want you to see your highest maximum.

That was enough for me to quit reading and continue life ignoring such an ignorant god.

Whatever enlightenment maybe to people,it sounds better then this god who showed up.

there are 3 gods in the old testament. ENLIGHTENMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EVENTS IN THE GARDEN. if you read the verses, it's not talking about god withholding knowledge, it's talking about god withholding sex. he didn't want humans to procreate. notice it says
Gen 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
"KNOWING" . remember knowing means to procreate. he didn't want them to procreate. he was mad that god had made them procreative. he wasn't mad that HE made them procreative, which proves he's not the creator god. he's satan. it's flipped on its head.

So, Evolutionists are the ACTUAL embodiment of 'Lucifer/Satan' as they say the only reason 'life forms' exist is to procreate (now I finally have a name to give the despotic). Whether Evolutionists like it or not are embodying the game face of Lucifer; drug into scripture wars whether they like it or not.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

erm you should read my op, verrry carefully

Note that these 2 verses PRE-DATE the adam and eve verses and that Elohim is telling them to MULTIPLY. To multiply in this context means to "procreate" unless otherwise indicated. It can't mean to be fruitful (multiplying goods by labor or multiplying spiritual events by good works), which was already mentioned, otherwise the verse would read: " go forth be fruitful and fruitful"

I am not sure why you say that to "multiply" means to procreate. The Bible is so symbolic it is hardly intelligible in the literal sense sometimes. However that is a huge stretch. And how do you get that the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the tree of procreation? What does good and evil have to do with procreation?

Fruitful in the Biblical sense, means what you sow, you reap. The "fruit," in other words, is the end result of your efforts. If what you sow is good, i.e. from love, your will bear good "fruit," and it will be multiplied thereby. Anyone can see this in their life.

Note what Jesus said in Matt 13:31:

"The kingdom of the heavens is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field, which indeed is the least of all seeds, but when it grows, it is the greatest among the herbs..." That is the multiplying effect.

Eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil means to me you are not then led from a higher power, i.e. God, but instead try to be like God, directing from self. It is a corruption of the will. And isn't that what everyone does? Tries to find out what is good for them, from their own knowledge? And no one has a clue?

a reply to: Higherway

the verses prior to that describe other procreative animals being created and told to go forth and multiply. the earth is being REplenished in the verses, recovering from some kind of cataclysm

i brought up the fruitful part to show that "multiply" didn't mean to increase goods by working or increase fruit spiritually by good works, but rather multiply meant to procreate.

the good and evil part is a reference to procreation via male and female intercourse. females were considered evil, males were considered good. of course the god of this world, who hates humans (pretty easy to tell) would be less than thrilled with females, since we can't work while nursing a new baby, we create more humans, and are not as physically strong. since originally, we weren't told about/taught any high tech info, women served no purpose that a slave master would be interested in, particularly since we just keep pumping out those horrible human beings that he hates.

consider many of the ancient religions had built in death sentences for female humans. in china, for example, female babies were called maggots in the rice, and were (and still are) killed at birth by their own parents or as a result of sex selective abortion. they say this because their traditional culture requires male children specifically, to act as their social security in their old age. the female children would help their husband's elderly parents, so female children were a liability, particularly in the last 2 decades with china's one child policy. they suspect over 100,000,000 female children have been killed as a result of the one child policy, many of them at the hands of their own mothers and fathers after they are already born.

india, same problem, however in their case, the death of female children at birth or as a result of sex selective abortion was/is spurned on by their religious tradition of dowry. the family of the bride has to pay a huge dowry to prospective in-laws.

in ancient greece, same problem, however in their case it was because their whole culture was taught to worship the male human, exclusively. females were just for making new male children and female children were killed at birth. their whole culture was decidedly homosexual males, with a focus on the relationship between young male teens and adult men.

in cultures where female children weren't killed at birth, they were abused in various other ways, such as mangling of the clitoris, stuffing them in large sacks of cloth and making them stay inside most of their lives, stoning them to death for just about anything you can name (including rape). this is actually the work of that guy who condemned humans. that is why his laws were often "you gotta be kidding me!" awful.