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originally posted by: soulwaxer
a reply to: OfManAndWolf
The whole article presumes that there is no such thing as a conspiracy... Does anyone honestly think that there has never been a conspiracy? LOL
That is just as naive as believing that there has never been a person who seemed honest all his life and then suddenly became corrupt.
The article also seems to assume that if you believe in conspiracy theories, there is something wrong with you and this will cause social problems. But then it goes on to mention that 70% of Americans think that there was a wider plot to the JFK assassination (that automatically means conspiracy and a full blown cover-up).
Then: 63% of Americans believe in at least one conspiracy theory. Do you see the problem here? That is completely absurd if 70% believe that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, especially taking into account the large number of different conspiracies people believe in.
Something else to consider: The "9/11 conspiracy theory" for example is not the only conspiracy theory of that event. The official story is also a conspiracy theory (19 Muslims with box cutters conspired to fool the whole of the US defence and highjacked 4 planes without a bullet fired at them). Meanwhile, there is A LOT more proof for the first theory than for the second. But I guess it can't be called a conspiracy theory if it involves people outside of the west...
The utter stupidity just keeps on blowing my mind. I have read articles of this type from university professors in philosophy and sociology.
soulwaxer
originally posted by: OfManAndWolf
Personally, I believe exposure to crappy journalism and the inundation of elitist propaganda through main stream media sources causes an appreciable decrease in measurable IQ. Have you noticed lately that most of these alleged journalists can't spell, miss words and cannot put a sentence together properly half of the time. It makes reading the "rags" almost painful. The glass tit presentations of ***infotainment-propaganda-news*** are better scripted of course, at least somebody checks the teleprompters, but the presenters do seem a tad vacuous and flippant.
I am not being critical of users at ATS, as many of us are rushed and of course we are not paid for readable perfection (I make many mistakes, but I'm an engineer and physicist so I get a free pass, everybody knows we can't do that writing thing, LOL). The object here I suppose at ATS is primarily to get a point, idea, story, link, etc. across the sea of electrons and hopefully increase knowledge and awareness.
ETA: With a name like Misty, I wonder what she does on the side (nudge nudge wink wink). BTW, I am kind of ashamed she's in Canada, in a way, for the stereotypers out there, it shines a dull light on some of our alleged journalists. You'd think they'd know better, being journalists.
Cheers - Dave
Awesome input, man. Wish I was a physicist/engineer. Oh well.
I have definitely increased my awareness, and am glad to finally meet a bunch of others doing the same thing. Keep fighting the good fight, man.
P.S- Should build me a satellite Mr.Smarty pants,
originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
Most people view conspiracies as only being something of an evil nature.
originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
If you talk about the government and paint a broad generalized picture of conspiracy you will lose most people, and rightfully so.
Most conspiracies in government involve a very small group of people, whereas a general conspiracy regarding the Mafia is logical due to the small size and tight knit group mentality that is any Mafia group.
You have been reading about conspiracy theories on this site for 10 years and you don't believe ANY of it???
Don't you have something more productive to do?
Assuming that all conspiracy theories are false is exactly the same as assuming that there is no such thing as a conspiracy.
I suggest you read up on the history of the term "conspiracy theory".
As to your second point: Look up Operation Northwoods and the Gulf of Tonkin incident. There are several others.
originally posted by: Astyanax
Can anyone think of a conspiracy theory that was later proven true?
I don't mean a leak or a whistleblower's report that was later shown to be true. That is a verifiable claim, not a theory. I mean a pre-existing theory, like the 9/11 conspiracy theory, or the chemtrail conspiracy theory, or the Illuminati theory, or the Queen is an Alien theory. Show us one that was proved true.
Just one will do.
originally posted by: c0gN1t1v3D1ss0nanC3
a reply to: OfManAndWolf
The most frustrating part of conspiracy theories in general, is that many of them get hijacked by nutcases whose audiences may not be the most educated, but often times are the most vocal.
Perhaps I failed to appreciate that you are limiting your bias to the practice of "conspiracy theorizing" (Those which have not been subsequently proven true, or perhaps even false?)
Fair game. I refer to those proven -- proven because many who brought this to light faced heavy-handed skepticism, and publicly uttered words of "wild-eyed conspiracy theorizing."