Russian Victory Parade Live in 1 hour

a reply to: TorinoFer

The only propaganda here is from you.

You falsely claimed that western media were the ones saying the tank had broken down, that was soundly debunked by the fact that RT reported the same thing.

You can call it whatever you like, but your agenda here has been yet again exposed, MenselT3.

Why the pro Yankee doodle dandy posse giving it some about a possible broken down tank, while nobody cares to mention that NATO A400 plane that crashed in Seville? It's all about demonizing Russia. This Victory Parade is to celebrate victory over the Nazis, not a criticism of Russian manufacturing.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
And I don't believe a tank operator wouldn't know his brake was engaged while trying to move his machine.

How does something that GROUND TO HALT LIKE SOME OLD TRACTOR

Then continue on.

You keep ignoring that tidbit

a reply to: TorinoFer

Just like during Olympics, out of 10 000 rooms, they found 50 incomplete ones to drum on western media for days.

When your hosting the Olympic's you make sure everything is ready...how is that western propaganda as the rooms weren't ready, it surely looks like they were telling the truth.

Or are you saying the rooms were ready and western media was lying?

a reply to: Chadwickus

How does something that GROUND TO HALT LIKE SOME OLD TRACTOR

Then continue on.

You keep ignoring that tidbit

Edit: mensal ?

a reply to: TorinoFer

How does something that GROUND TO HALT LIKE SOME OLD TRACTOR

You said it had the brakes on did you not?

And please finish your sentence as it makes not one bit of sense such as your attempt to show western sanctions not working because Russia had a parade.

When something breaks down it usually grounds to a halt.

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Western leaders didn't want to show up to celebrate ?

Western leaders are sad the nazis lost

Not to worry, the new nazis hiding behind US and NATO will lose again.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
The only propaganda here is from you.

Oh I think you are the master of propaganda.

Not that I did, but I could learn a lot from you

a reply to: TorinoFer

That's your prerogative to choose not to believe me, but it's true, I've seen it done - those REME crews know they're stuff. It's called a pack lift, look it up.

In fact, in the British Army, it is quite common for the tank crews themselves to be so well oiled and trained they would assist with the lift, making it go even smoother.

a reply to: TorinoFer

Western leaders are sad the nazis lost

Ah yes it had nothing to do with Russia invading and annexing part of a sovereign nation in Ukraine.

It was all because the Nazi's lost...your rhetoric is very telling.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Actually they are sad Crimea base is not a NATO base as was planned

And they are sad Ukraine is not in NATO as was planned.

You know when you plan something and it doesn't work out. And it makes you sad

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Why the pro Yankee doodle dandy posse giving it some about a possible broken down tank, while nobody cares to mention that NATO A400 plane that crashed in Seville? It's all about demonizing Russia. This Victory Parade is to celebrate victory over the Nazis, not a criticism of Russian manufacturing.

The OP brought up the broken down tank in his first post, denying it even happened and was in fact a "rehearsal" just in case the tank did brake down, so it is only fair and right we discuss it.

As for the A400 plane, what makes it a "NATO" aircraft? NATO has no aircraft at all. The aircraft was reportedly a Turkish one and reports suggest it communicated "problems" right after take off. It remains to be seen whether this was a technical problem - and admittedly the A400 programme has had it's problems - or something else.

The difference being, when a Western made "product" has issues, it is investigated publically and put right. In Russia, it is quite the opposite and they will do what they can to divert blame from anything they do, just see the Polish President's Crash - Russian made aircraft crashing at a Russian airport, but they blamed the pilots.

originally posted by: TorinoFer
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Western leaders didn't want to show up to celebrate ?

Western leaders are sad the nazis lost

Not to worry, the new nazis hiding behind US and NATO will lose again.

Well let's see, the West are backing the Nazis again now in Ukraine through the western inspired coup that toppled the democratically elected government, all because it leaned towards Moscow.

Honestly? Can we leave this geopolitical bickering out for one day?

Million of Brave Russian died fighting the Germans. without them Most of Europe would be still speaking German and Britain and the USA would never have been able to land on D-Day.

We might hate Putin and his actions but this day is not about him. Its a about the brave WW2 vets.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Honestly? Can we leave this geopolitical bickering out for one day?

Look at the OP - he brought it on with his opening statement. I am all for remembering the fallen, but this thread isn't it.

originally posted by: stumason

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Why the pro Yankee doodle dandy posse giving it some about a possible broken down tank, while nobody cares to mention that NATO A400 plane that crashed in Seville? It's all about demonizing Russia. This Victory Parade is to celebrate victory over the Nazis, not a criticism of Russian manufacturing.

The OP brought up the broken down tank in his first post, denying it even happened and was in fact a "rehearsal" just in case the tank did brake down, so it is only fair and right we discuss it.

As for the A400 plane, what makes it a "NATO" aircraft? NATO has no aircraft at all. The aircraft was reportedly a Turkish one and reports suggest it communicated "problems" right after take off. It remains to be seen whether this was a technical problem - and admittedly the A400 programme has had it's problems - or something else.

The difference being, when a Western made "product" has issues, it is investigated publically and put right. In Russia, it is quite the opposite and they will do what they can to divert blame from anything they do, just see the Polish President's Crash - Russian made aircraft crashing at a Russian airport, but they blamed the pilots.

Come on you know what the western media is like. When an Airbus crashes, the headline never reads in its main title something like 'French made plane crashes' but when a Tupulov crashes it always states 'Russian made plane crashes.' The media always sticks it to Russia when their technology is shown to be possibly at fault, they don't do the same with French, American, Italian etc

Turks are part of NATO btw, have been since 1952

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Well let's see, the West are backing the Nazis again now in Ukraine through the western inspired coup that toppled the democratically elected government, all because it leaned towards Moscow.

So the elections that were held were democratic, you are a knowledgeable person and know what democratic elections mean correct?

Are you saying the citizens of Ukraine didn't have a choice during their elections...because they did.

As for Yanukovych I guess you missed the part where he was being impeached for his corruption and his lying to the people who elected him...but of course it was all the west fault he stole billions and lied to his people.

a reply to: crazyewok

Honestly? Can we leave this geopolitical bickering out for one day?

Well when the OP blames the west for something that has no connection whatsoever to the topic what is one to expect?

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Come on you know what the western media is like. When an Airbus crashes, the headline never reads in its main title something like 'French made plane crashes' but when a Tupulov crashes it always states 'Russian made plane crashes.'

I hate to break it to you, but Airbus' aren't "French made", so calling it as such would be misleading. They are built all over Europe, with significant work being done here in the UK.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
The media always sticks it to Russia when their technology is shown to be possibly at fault, they don't do the same with French, American, Italian etc

Care to cite an example? Because the media always seem quite open when a "western" made aircraft, for example, fails due to a technical problem. It was all over the news about those pitot tubes on the Airbus which cause a few crashes.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Turks are part of NATO btw, have been since 1952

Indeed they are, but that doesn't make that aircraft a "NATO" one. It belonged to the Turkish and unless it was specifically seconded for a NATO operation - which I doubt as it was being delivered - NATO had sod all to do with it.

EDIT:

As an example of Western media and their reporting, here is an article about the Air France crash which is quite critical:

Horrific details of the last moments of Flight 447, which claimed the lives of five Britons and three Irish doctors, have emerged in a disturbing new investigation into the 2009 disaster involving an Airbus 330.

Published in the October edition of Vanity Fair magazine, it raises terrifying questions about safety aboard civilian passenger jets, and the 'culture' of the Air France pilots on board.

-----

It took two years to retrieve bodies from the bottom of the sea, along with essential records such as the flight's voice recorder.

Air France has denied that its pilots were incompetent, but has since improved training, concentrating on how to fly a plane manually when there is a stall.

Both Air France and Airbus are facing manslaughter charges, with a judicial investigation led by Paris judges under way.



www.mirror.co.uk...

a reply to: stumason

The point is people are all to eager to knock a Russian tank breaking down like they are a Russian plane crashing or a Russian space rocket exploding, but when it comes to Western (French being an example) there is no great rush to push the origin of the product. It's always 'a' plane, or a 'rocket' and not a French or whatever you want to call it. There is a demonisation of Russian technology by the media, this his now bled into the brains of certain posters too who have been brain washed by Yanke doodle dandy type media campaigns.