Pamela Geller vs Imam Anjem Choudary on Fox News, Hannity: 'You Want Her To Die!'

a reply to: flibbleflobble

Freedom of speech is all the rage apparently.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: flibbleflobble

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
You are a racist sunshine,England is fine

For now

Expect more Sharia creeping laws, they do the little maggot approach, inch by inch by the time you wake up, you will have lost a mile.

Their stated goal is world under Divine Law.

People have been saying that for a decade...

My watch stopped while I waited.


Less chance of Sharia here than a supernova.

or you must have missed the birmingham school scandal? Or the teaching of how to cut hands off correctly in british schools? Or the introduction of sharia courts? and by the way a supernova is an absolute certainty.

a reply to: disregard

Source, thanks.

Most personal decisions should be made on a cost benefit analysis basis. Is the benefit of muslims being allowed to become a legit minority in your country worth the occasional terrorist attack and everything else muslims bring to the table? To me, that is a very simple question to answer.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: disregard

Source, thanks.

www.telegraph.co.uk... en.m.wikipedia.org...

Google is useful

wow. started off reading, thinking "Good grief!" and then when i saw the video about how it seems to be a set up, i was taken aback. this choudary fella is not a practicing muslim, i take it?
this video is the one i'm referring to. the other one, where the guy is a brit constantly cussing, is a bit harder to follow

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

If we go in all pussyfooted and go "Okay muslims you win we won't draw your prophet anymore" , freedom loses, and Sharia law inches closer to shores it doesn't belong on.

No it does not. I am not saying we should out law it.
Just that we shouldn't act like this lady that did it doesn't have a personal vendetta and doing it for more then just freedom.

a reply to: mlemo

Its fine to think of westernised muslims but men like Anjem Choudary seem to be popping out of the woodwork and their influence is starting to make a difference to how muslims integrate and what muslims think they will achieve if they can force sharia law into a non muslim country.

What get me is that on another thread recently here we saw a younger version of choudary taking a question by a young muslim girl about the profit being called a paedophile. He actually told her absolutely nothing, praised god and thought himself the bees knees, smirking through his glasses, jutting out his pink beard when he spouted his pompous and patronising twoddle. I am sure the saudis ware creating clones of these ghastly little men - were one to meet them under any other circumstance, you wouldn't even notice them even to say 'good day' they are so insignificant.

Anjem choudary has managed to dodge jail for racial and religious incitement but although trained as a solicitor he now lives on benefits. As he is preaching, obviously he is working and not available to work, so perhaps this human slime ball could well face loosing his benefits soon. He might have been born in Welling Kent, but he obviously hates the English way of life and its freedoms so is committing treason and getting away with it. He is linked to one of the Lee Rigby killers so he clearly is working for his religion which means he's not unemployed.

We want to toss around the hypocrisy word, how about the hypocrisy of those that call any one who doesn't stand with Gellar getting called an ISIS apologist...

Since when is how how it is suppose to work?

Gellar had to the right to do what she did, but to act like she did it purely for free speech purposes is naive.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Just think, if milliband gets elected, any Brit criticising that insect, Chowdrey, will go to jail for being an islamaphobe.

Don't you just love modern "Fauxcialism" ?

as an American, can you back up what you say, I don't pay much attention to UK political details.

Hey, sorry to keep you hanging on. I'm at work and can only check in periodically.

Labour party announced last week that they'll make Islamophobia a hate crime.

As usual, the definition is fuzzy and can be everything from burning down a mosque which is already a crime, right through to telling your daughter not to get in a muslim mini cab.

Most normal people's reaction to Chowdrey would likely land them in court under such a law.

Double post.

a reply to: andy06shake

I watched that interview, what he said don't sit right with me at all. Imagine if this was happening in the 1940s then we`d be locking up all Arabic Americans in internment camps like the Japanese. If more and more of this sort of talk comes from Muslims then you will see an uprising of general prejudice against all Muslim and Arabic people within the US and possibly Europe as well.

I don't have a good idea to solve this, or a drawn out post telling others what they ought to be doing, all I know is a lot of good people are going to get hurt listening to idiots like him, and I will defend anyone who doesn't want a part of this religious BS. Far to many more important and FAR more interesting things out there.

a reply to: StratosFear

End of the day the guy is an moron spouting dangerous gibberish but hardly representative of all Muslims in general. Only Sunni Muslims have a problem with Muhammad's image being depicted and even then its only the hard core xenophobic religious intolerant variety that are willing to take severe issue. The rest of the Muslims dont have any issue what-so ever regarding the depiction of any prophets. Sad really that a minorities religious sensibilities are so easily offended, some might say pathetic, especially so in this day of age.

a reply to: Sremmos80

sweet baby jesus, we agree on something...........

Yeah everyone knows this guys a radical it does nothing to bring him on continually to justify a position, another reason i stopped watching fox more andmore....

Look i know you guys hate Glenn Beck, but do me a favor, go look at the Blaze.com youll find that most of the time they carry BOTH sides of stories and slam the GOP as much as the democrats.....youll find stuff on there that no other network will cary....

I dont know why shes blaming the FBI really, look im like Glenn, I think what she did was in horrible taste, and I sure as hell wouldnt have taken part of it because I dont believe in being disrespectful like that......

However , she still shouldnt be killed over it...

Same with our flag....Im a Marine Corps vet, served combat, watched brothers die.......and though it KILLS me , to watch someone stomp on our flag,and though i might WANT to plant them on their ass......i wont.....

We cannot condone one violent act while condemning another.......

Flag VS Mohomad , America.......do you stand on your principles? or will hypocrisy reign?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

However , she still shouldn't be killed over it...

Totally agreed.
The threats to her life is out of line and does nothing but fuel her fire.

She does not deserve death threats for what she did, nor did anyone who showed up at the event.

I say we should keep on drawing the prophet, and just keep on sending the terrorists to meet God when they retaliate. Seriously I understand that people should be more respectful, but they are not going to be. So if terrorists want to keep throwing their lives away over a cartoon, i say lets bring it. America and its civilian population is well positioned to handle this type of threat as it arises.

I love and respect Islam EXCEPT where death threats for putting a face to the prophet is concerned. I think every state should host its own, and then we can analyze which states suffer the worst attacks. I can predict with certain confidence that places like New York, Illinois, and California will suffer the worst as they dont believe in the Second Amendment so much.

I think all future Muhammad cartoon contests should be held by and for Navy Seals and other Special Forces...and they should draw them while wearing full battle gear.

Let these cowardly ISIS morons try to take their rage out on people who can actually defend themselves...instead of unarmed and defenseless old men, women...and children.

The event was put on to incite. Anyone thinks it wasn't has their heads buried in the sand. This interview was held to incite. Anyone that doesn't see this is oblivious. Let's face it. You KNOW what type of response you will get from some people. I think it's a sad state of affairs when sensibilities are thrown into the ditch for a political motive.

originally posted by: intrepid
The event was put on to incite. Anyone thinks it wasn't has their heads buried in the sand. This interview was held to incite. Anyone that doesn't see this is oblivious. Let's face it. You KNOW what type of response you will get from some people. I think it's a sad state of affairs when sensibilities are thrown into the ditch for a political motive.

So people shouldn't be allowed to draw the pictures?

a reply to: IAMTAT

Then you wonder who the real terrorist are, the CIA is right, the FBI is right and so is ISIS, they are all over the US in the news media calling for the death of a women to emphasize how much their despise Americas constitutional rights and freedoms.

What this people doesn't get in their radical stupid heads is that the more they target Americas rights the more Americans will despise them, will go against Islam and radicalism and will keep looking with disdain and resentment their religion and those that practice it, Americans will be better than the FBI and the CIA when it comes to keeping an eye to their areas of worship, their Businesses and their areas of living.

This is not a good thing, because actually the same freedoms that protects Americans also protect them and their rights to worship, taking into consideration that Americans owns more weapons per capital than any other country in the world, is bound to be some happy trigger around, if more acts of terrorism starts to pop around killing innocent Americas for exercising their constitutional rights.

Retaliation is what is call, outsider cannot take Americas rights away.

No good.