Is God a Religious Nut or just an innocent creator being?

originally posted by: eisegesis
The beautiful thing is...

You can believe whatever you want!

There is no answer.

Live your life by creating guidelines developed from your own perception without harming anyone in the process. Be open to the possibility that a god could choose to be any or none of those things.

What if a god created everything BUT humans and we evolved naturally through evolution? Was that the "plan" all along?

Devine Evolution!?

There actually IS an answer and we all must admit it. If we all lived together in peace and worked together towards the common good and the betterment of all of us then would that not provide us with an answer? Yes it can easily be argued that this can never happen or that it only takes a greedy jackass or two to screw up the whole attempt, but does that really take away from the fact that this way is the answer? I think not. Can it be achieved and how do we go about achieving it? You got me, I have no clue. From what I see it will never happen, but that does not take away from the fact that it is the only answer. IMHO.

originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: vethumanbeing

1. There is no "seduction" in the attainment of knowledge. We either seek knowledge or we do not. It will always be fought against by the "powers that be". God and the state, if there is a difference.
2. Any of these deities are what my now deceased friend referred to as "severe rat bastards". Allah, "Yahweh", Zeus. Rat bastards...all of em'.
3. Polytheism is a thing. Please read more. I don't care to educate you on religious history.
4. I probably do...anyone who has read anything probably does.

1. Seek or be sought out and then exterminated.
2. I like the term "severe rat bastards" all of them need exterminating.
3. I would not want anymore information regarding edification of no religious belief system in place (other than gnostic).
4. I read everything to the detriment of my soul; the more you read the more lost one becomes (THE KNOWLEDGE ABYSS GROWS EXPONENTIONALLY).

originally posted by: eisegesis
The beautiful thing is...

You can believe whatever you want!

There is no answer.

Live your life by creating guidelines developed from your own perception without harming anyone in the process. Be open to the possibility that a god could choose to be any or none of those things.

What if a god created everything BUT humans and we evolved naturally through evolution? Was that the "plan" all along?

Devine Evolution!?

Oh THAT. You will create your own 'afterlife' experience; are you positive or negative, at this point evolution has nothing to contribute AT/UPON the DEATH occurance. Its the "strip bar owners" planet/"pawn broker planet"/or "publishers of religious dogma" "TAX EVADER" planet DESTINY you will be bound for (what was your worst sin); will be your greatest eternal nightmare.

originally posted by: BennyHavensOh

originally posted by: eisegesis
The beautiful thing is...

You can believe whatever you want!

There is no answer.

Live your life by creating guidelines developed from your own perception without harming anyone in the process. Be open to the possibility that a god could choose to be any or none of those things.

What if a god created everything BUT humans and we evolved naturally through evolution? Was that the "plan" all along?

Devine Evolution!?

There actually IS an answer and we all must admit it. If we all lived together in peace and worked together towards the common good and the betterment of all of us then would that not provide us with an answer? Yes it can easily be argued that this can never happen or that it only takes a greedy jackass or two to screw up the whole attempt, but does that really take away from the fact that this way is the answer? I think not. Can it be achieved and how do we go about achieving it? You got me, I have no clue. From what I see it will never happen, but that does not take away from the fact that it is the only answer. IMHO.

An answer cannot be achieved without it being able to exist in the first place. Harmony is not a human trait and we are inherently ruled by very animalistic triggers and behaviors. Its not hard to see that we are achieving both ends of the evolutionary spectrum at the same time. Some monkeys are getting smarter while others are still flinging poo.

There is only chaos in moments of rest that we observe and try to explain. We are builders and destroyers. Its in our very DNA to defend against all of creation that can harm us. Its in the DNA of the Universe to devour entire galaxies while giving birth to new star systems. If a creator exists, they must also be capable of being destroyed.

Peace cannot exist amongst the Universe therefore it cannot exist amongst ourselves. Unless your subjective definition of the word "peace" means exactly how the Universe operates then yeah, we might potentially be able to at least appear as a peaceful species, but the first straw will be the last in a perfect society.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Everything one knows about God is written down by man therefore God is not a religious nut - Man is.

God probably just has a really really bad headache from facepalming a lot.

Second reply to you no answer yet (all of the stars received); are you an artful dodger?

?a reply to: vethumanbeing

It must first be asked who does the personally consider GOD to be?
For the Various Religious text seem to share there are various.
Various due to the way the information (some call pagan) was compiled then refined and then distributed to the masses to interpret...

Are you speaking of for example LORD JESUS CHRIST-ALLAH/ SHIVA-LORD VISHNU/ RA-SET/ OSIRIS-ISIS/ LORD ENKI-LORD ENLIL / THE CREATOR-SOURCE/ Or another?
If its not clear who you or others send their metaphysical prayer and worship energy to (to protect and guide you through perhaps malevolent regions throughout the Life and Death Phases within Existence) then it can possibly become an issue when trying to recognize the responses sent back from the request to the GOD you worship or pray to or request guidance intelligence and strength to overcome the impossible from...

Once one finds within them self who they perceive GOD to be, maybe the questions you ask OP will be easier understood and your answers found...

1 also is not sure if LUCIFER and NATAS are the same Angels? or different Angelic factions from the HEAVENS.

NAMASTE*******

Perhaps the Created are given time to mature, within some form of containment for their various Created energies.

And as some mature from various Created regions of existence they ASCEND.

As the Ascension processes carry on, the various Created mature more.

As they mature more perhaps that is when they are free of the reaches of the malevolent.

Due to becoming more AWARE of the COLLECTIVE Consciousness of ALL* who make up the WHOLE* through Ascending various levels/dimensions and locations throughout Existence and are eventually welcomed into the benevolent regions of Existence...

@Is God a Religious Nut or just an innocent creator being?

1 does not think so, 1 feels the maturing CREATOR Creations levels of perception just cannot fully understand THE - I AM from these levels of awareness available here...

a reply to: vethumanbeing

LOL - no, I'm working, star for you my friend..............this post is literally during a conference call where I have a 5min break.

This is it for me....................my relationship with my God is private and I don't like discussing it with anyone - except God. Written documentation about "God" is how the God concept was bought to my attention - in my lifes (ongoing) journey I have exposed myself to most "religions" and their documentation and I have personally determined that my life path and what I choose to believe must not negatively impact on any other soul - ever.

Maybe the knowledge of good and evil is the key to understanding God ,even if it is in a small way . People gripe about Religion and how bad it is but most Religious laws are part of their own constitution . Now consider the High Priests of society in our time and consider all the Laws they pose on people who are not a part of their Law Society .How are they justified in creating their laws and then telling me not to break them ?

It's not right or legal for one society to impose their laws on another society but that is exactly the case when we are dealing with the Law Society and their Justice System . And seeing that they go to work every day in hopes of creating new laws ,I would call them Religious Nuts . They worship the dollars they can create for their Society that they take from other groups of people .

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Is God a Religious Nut or just an innocent creator being?

Or...and this is just me speculating, here...there's a third option: Is God a created being by man?

Sure would explain all of the imperfect things attributed to a 'perfect being.'

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Ive always pictured God looking at us and saying "wtf, that is not what I meant"

a reply to: Shepard64

I believe if we don't understand the almighty, it is more a reflection of our own limits then the intent behind where the concepts come from.

Take for example the Ten Commandments.I try to practice avoiding dogma, so I take these as basic guidelines for healthy living.Rules, rules are often meant as a safety precaution.

If one takes the position of religion as a tool for self development to encourage higher understanding, in a psychological sense I believe the peace the prophets were trying to help others find would relate to self realization.I believe if someone walks that path, there would come a day when they question how they have treated others.You couldn't really go wrong with having followed the 10 Commandments, in that light...

originally posted by: dffrntkndfnml
a reply to: Shepard64

I believe if we don't understand the almighty, it is more a reflection of our own limits then the intent behind where the concepts come from.

Take for example the Ten Commandments.I try to practice avoiding dogma, so I take these as basic guidelines for healthy living.Rules, rules are often meant as a safety precaution.

I prefer these 10 Commandments.

The man I am talking about is Solon the Athenian. Solon was born, we believe, around 638 B.C.E., and lived until approximately 558, but the date in his life of greatest importance to us is the year he was elected to create a constitution for Athens, 594 B.C.E.

Let us now turn to the Ten Commandments of Solon (Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, 1.60), which run as follows:


1. Trust good character more than promises.
2. Do not speak falsely.
3. Do good things.
4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.
5. Learn to obey before you command.
6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.
7. Make reason your supreme commander.
8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.
9. Honor the gods.
10. Have regard for your parents.

Unlike the Commandments of Moses, none of these is outdated or antithetical to modern moral or political thought. Every one could be taken up by anyone today, of any creed--except perhaps only one. And indeed, there is something much more profound in these commandments. They are far more useful as precepts for living one's life. Can society, can government, prevail and prosper if we fail to uphold the First Commandment of Moses?

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Sweet, I always enjoy learning bits of history.

It's interesting to compare levels of development historically as we have progressed through the ages.Moses meant well with those commandments.Rules aren't meant to be a strait jacket, just guidelines to avoid getting hurt and encourage common sense.I like what Solon set down there.I dig much of what has been carried from Greece to us about their culture and way of thinking.Reading over those 10 commandments reminds me of the Golden Verses or Marcus Aurelius.

Moses times were different, as are ours now.The Golden Rule in all it's form appears to be the most accepted guideline throughout the ages.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

"The Tao that can be told is NOT the Eternal Tao..."

By the "time" You meld back to 'All that there is' ALL the folks that You knew and knew You, would've have also traveled a path/way to where the 2 "different" Souls intersect/interact and then onward..

Some have been here before (incarnate/re-incarnate repeat if necessary..)

Hunab Ku resides in The Octave..

namaste

God is an Idea, simultaneously providing control and comfort, to a particular populace....

a reply to: Ghost147

You're right. How dare God allow you to be who you are. He should have known from the start that you would be the reprobate you are and never have created man to begin with.

There's just no point in letting anyone have a choice because some people will choose to go against what they should.

GOD got angry and flooded the world.
he let some escape on a boat!
and later me felt sorry for what he did!!!
and gave them a rainbow to say,
sorry I will not do it again.

well until he blows up the world! again!!
does this sound like some one who is sane?

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the Lord.”
Isaiah 55:8

“When I consider the heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars which you have set in place, what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him.”
Psalms

a reply to: buddha

we live in a free will reality with laws that require CONSEQUENCES to work…