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False Flags Always Fail. Here's Why.

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posted on May, 2 2015 @ 02:36 PM
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The sheer volume of negative energy put into a basic False Flag Operation is enough to guarantee failure. On top of that unwilling operatives deliberately or clumsily add their own obstructions and that sends everything off the rails.

Delusional people may imagine they will benefit from involvement in a False Flag, but as the years wear on it all caves in on top of them.

There is a system of 'coincidence' that is beyond any human control. The families of those involved in planning and carrying out False Flags can meet up later and swap information. When I say meet up I mean by coincidence. It just happens. One of the mysteries of the universe.

Once information has been swapped a better understanding of events is achieved. Everything points back to the delusional planners and perpetrators. Those behind the Sydney Hilton Bombing, for example, will experience the spotlight growing brighter and brighter. Enjoy.

Those struggling to understand a False Flag event should consider that the event most likely went disastrously wrong. Don't ask why they did it that way. They didn't do it that way. That's what happened when it all went wrong. What you see is the mess they are struggling to gain from.


This is the Deconstructing Disinformation part.
You will be encouraged to investigate major False Flag events as if it all went according to plan. Then you will be encouraged to argue over various aspects of the event. Don't waste your time. If it was a False Flag then the odds are it was a complete mess and the planners were staring at their screens aghast, unable to believe it could all go so terribly wrong. Then they start with the utterly pathetic excuses because that's all they've got. After that they go mad. Then they die.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Kester

Any particular 'false flags' you are referring to?
Personally I don't really buy the whole false flag thing, but perhaps you know much more than I do about such things?



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 02:54 PM
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9/11 worked out pretty well. By the time everything was over American citizens were begging to give our rights away.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: Kester
The sheer volume of negative energy put into a basic False Flag Operation is enough to guarantee failure. On top of that unwilling operatives deliberately or clumsily add their own obstructions and that sends everything off the rails.

Delusional people may imagine they will benefit from involvement in a False Flag, but as the years wear on it all caves in on top of them.

There is a system of 'coincidence' that is beyond any human control. The families of those involved in planning and carrying out False Flags can meet up later and swap information. When I say meet up I mean by coincidence. It just happens. One of the mysteries of the universe.

Once information has been swapped a better understanding of events is achieved. Everything points back to the delusional planners and perpetrators. Those behind the Sydney Hilton Bombing, for example, will experience the spotlight growing brighter and brighter. Enjoy.

Those struggling to understand a False Flag event should consider that the event most likely went disastrously wrong. Don't ask why they did it that way. They didn't do it that way. That's what happened when it all went wrong. What you see is the mess they are struggling to gain from.


This is the Deconstructing Disinformation part.
You will be encouraged to investigate major False Flag events as if it all went according to plan. Then you will be encouraged to argue over various aspects of the event. Don't waste your time. If it was a False Flag then the odds are it was a complete mess and the planners were staring at their screens aghast, unable to believe it could all go so terribly wrong. Then they start with the utterly pathetic excuses because that's all they've got. After that they go mad. Then they die.


The sheer volume of negative energy put into a basic False Flag Operation is enough to guarantee failure.
Seriously you think that negative energy put forth never succeeded? It's used in all kinds of murders, rapes, etc., and even those pre meditated.

Pathetic excuses then they die? You mean whistle blowers end up dead? Guess they only do it to themselves huh.

Basically trying to debunk 9/11 as a FF by this premise? Or how about Waco, that's surely more conspiratorial, less accepted as a FF. Plus, the Patriot Act has no benefit at all to anyone minus the citizens?



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: PeachesNCream

Not only that,but they pulled Vietnam with the gulf of Tonkin incident pretty well for years.there is even papers on it and how well it went.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 03:34 PM
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I dont know of one "false flag" that failed since at least World War 1. I do remember something of covert operations in South America though. Will have to read up more.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 04:20 PM
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Actually, False Flags ALWAYS work.

People will either call BS during or after the fact but it's only a moment in time. Then, 99% just let it go because it's easier and fits their comfort zone to accept the official narrative.

Let's not forget that the closer people get to the truth, the more freedoms are taken away as a result so why bother? As long as we can buy our frozen yogurt at the local FroYo. Because that is truly freedom right?

False Flags always work because it's not only the event but also the people that are being manipulated.

Works every time.

Please explain any FF that has failed. Not because the people found out but because there was actually a reckoning for the guilty.

Jue



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: PeachesNCream



9/11 worked out pretty well. By the time everything was over American citizens were begging to give our rights away.



I have to agree with that! The majority of Americans and the media never even questioned nor protested against the Patriot Act. The fear campaign worked hood line and sinker.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: Kester

How do you define failure? The Reichstag Fire seems like a pretty successful false flag operation in that it did what it was intended to do: eliminate communist opposition and propel the nazi party into dominance.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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And how would you be credible enough to talk on behalf of such a subject?

We're you involved in false flags?

Have you thoroughly researched all of them, or the majority? No one got blame for 9/11, just handfuls of made up names with made up passports, and guys running elusively through cavern systems in M.E.

I think, you didn't think this through very well before typing all that..

ETA - also find it ironic this information is the disinformation forum
ha!
edit on 2-5-2015 by Elementalist because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Kester

Any particular 'false flags' you are referring to?
Personally I don't really buy the whole false flag thing, but perhaps you know much more than I do about such things?


You should buy into the idea that they are a reality and governments have been doing this for a very long time.

false flags

Ask yourself who benefits from a crisis most, instead of who the blame is being pushed on.



posted on May, 2 2015 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: rockintitz

Fantastic response and great link, thanks.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 02:36 AM
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a reply to: [post=19302491]Kester[/postI must admit, I tend to agree with you. All flags form part of some kind of a conspiracy or another. They are all made up things,contrived in the mind of someone or another. Of course you are pointing at the obvious ones, but life is full of smoke screens and fabrications of one kind or another. Jesus, we all need to hide behind some kind of story. Or do we?




posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand

The Sydney Hilton is the one I have inside knowledge of. Watching the way the various players have lived their lives over the following decades has given me the knowledge that supports my assertions.

False Flags happen. They go wrong. Everyone willingly involved tries to get the benefits that lured them, hence the wildly improbable excuses and explanations. Then it all caves in on top of them.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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a reply to: PeachesNCream

The WTC towers were built by the Rockefellers for eventual destruction while occupied. The first attempt to detonate the inbuilt explosives with a truck bomb failed. The first attempts to detonate the inbuilt explosives on 9/11 failed. A desperate back-up plan to detonate both towers was implemented. While preparations were being made we got the photographic and video evidence that exposed the crime.

The plan was 30-40,000 dead almost instantly and a small amount of photographic and video evidence. Many analysts think there were a series of attacks planned but they were not carried out due to the horrendous failure of 9/11. The Sears Tower, or whatever alias it's hiding under now, is an obvious one.

The intended overthrow of civilised society has not worked.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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Edit to add.
Remember the news stories of possible baggage handler assistance? These stories appeared soon after the 9/11 attacks then faded. Bombs in the cargo hold was supposed to be the explanation for the complete destruction of the stricken building. Both impacts failed to fully detonate the inbuilt explosives, though you will see some evidence of partial detonation in images of the second strike.

And speaking of images. Look at the photographs of the towers in early to mid destruction. You'll see the individual panels and rows of panel blowing out. The evidence is there for the world to see. How embarrassing.
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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: PeachesNCream



9/11 worked out pretty well. By the time everything was over American citizens were begging to give our rights away.



I have to agree with that! The majority of Americans and the media never even questioned nor protested against the Patriot Act. The fear campaign worked hood line and sinker.



Yea, the simple fact that its called the "Patriot Act", coming out of Washington should have set of alarm bells. Like the "Affordable Health Care Act". Its always the reverse of what it claims to be. Otherwise know as bull s*it.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: dreamingawake

I'm looking longer term because my experience allows me to see the long term effects on the players.

What happened to Danny? wtfrly.com... It looks like a specialised truck with a massive hammer whacked him after he was stopped at the junction. Then the tree was damaged as a false lead. Maybe.
He died with all of us caring about him.

The guys I'm talking about, the willing participants, go mad and die. I've seen it.

It's very different for us over here. Terms and conditions prevent me from adequately expressing how we feel about those who seek to dominate using False Flags as their excuse. While you're all set up for your shooting civil war we've already won our psychological civil war.
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posted on May, 3 2015 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: Dimithae

Papers on how well it went because they had to push that illusion.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Gothmog

It always goes wrong and they always claim it went according to plan. The opposition is always prepared along with the event.



posted on May, 3 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: jude11

The reckoning is they go mad and die. I've seen it happen.

More importantly the 90+% who let it go are followers who can change direction overnight. It's the minority who take action. That minority are likely to be in crucial positions.



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