I invite the ET to take responsibility on Earth

a reply to: 2012newstart

We already know the Aliens ET do exist

Err No. We don't.

a reply to: dragonridr

I have no idea what you're talking about but I loved reading it and want to read more!

P.S

Maybe start your own thread

You say "We already know that aliens do exist" !?
100% proof of this have you ?
I've never ever in my natural seen an alien from outer space. . or anything on the tv or elsewhere.
lights in the sky or blurred pictures cannot be 100% proof that were not alone.
Also, Would you go into your neighbours yard and clean up their dogs s##t ?

I for one wouldn't. . might get bit on the arse!

my penny's worth

rgds
GIT...

Ah a few got in before me with the same reply.. Still, great minds eh ? except for mine..

a reply to: PsychoEmperor

I'm pretty sure that post was being facetious.

a reply to: 2012newstart

Don't discount aliens having already come and consequently determined that no intelligent life exists here.

After all, I'm human and I see personal accountability as a fundamental tenet to the successful survival of a species.

Responsibility starts with the self, the ego, therefore what Rosinitiate said because we have made our global bed therefore we must lie in it.........

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: 2012newstart

We already know the Aliens ET do exist

Err No. We don't.

Accept ET existence is just the next stage after centuries believing in gods. There were gods, there are extraterrestrials.

a reply to: 2012newstart

They don'y intervene maybe because they monitor us but leave us to get on with it and don't want to disturb our natural development, a bit like we do the same with primitive (to western eyes) Amazinian indians. An advanced alien race would have gone through the pillage and destroy colonial phase and hopefully developed a conscience.

I hope this is the case, I know for fact that they are up there. I just prey they aren'
t farming us for a cull at some point when our population growth makes a good crop. We might be their Maccie Dees

originally posted by: Krazysh0tWhy exactly do we need to be saved by some external forces? Why can't we save ourselves. Stop wallowing in your misery about the state of society and actually go out and try to fix things. Ugh... People who give up and pretend like humanity will be saved by god or aliens bother me. Y'all are contributing to the state of the planet by not doing anything to fix it and pretending like we need saving. Why do you want to be in some extraterrestrial's debt anyways? No we need to man up and fix our own damn problems. End of story.

So let's say you want to stop the money system and instead want to introduce centrally planned communism and equally ditribution of wares. The next thing is that you find yourself in the looney bin.

So you attempt to convince others the world would be a better place with this thought through system. They say "ok, sounds cool... but now I go to work and buy a car next month".

So you try to start from scratch again with a community on a free land. Next thing happens is the bulldozers come and crash down everything you've built up. Because you didn't pay the ground taxes.

So you get angry and want to protest against. Next thing is you find yourself in a prison cell or shot dead.

Now tell me again how we can get our crap together and "man up" in this situation. This is easier said than done. Everything is possessed and ruled by someone mightier. And then you have the people who are so much into this system, struggling themselves for careers, being dumb on weekends etc., that they ignore everything else and by that keeping this system alive. It's like you have pile of sh*** the size of an elephant, and you are a little ant trying to remove this pile. Each time you bite into the sh*** trying to remove a tiny part, another animal comes up and makes an additional dump ontop of the already existing pile.

a reply to: Trueman

I never kneeled or prayed to a deity as im quite sure they're a crock and a figment of a bored ancient mind not counting the ambassador the Romans nailed up but he was just a loony anyway. As for ET'S ? Nope, can't quite buy into this either, only when they pop in for a pint at my local will I definitely say "they're here"

Roll on that day mind , Just don't expect them to clean up my crap!

rgds

GIT

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I vote for hot ET space babes to come and lay down some love on the planet earth.

You had better create your arc then...





Nice avatar.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: 2012newstart

They don'y intervene maybe because they monitor us but leave us to get on with it and don't want to disturb our natural development, a bit like we do the same with primitive (to western eyes) Amazinian indians. An advanced alien race would have gone through the pillage and destroy colonial phase and hopefully developed a conscience.

I hope this is the case, I know for fact that they are up there. I just prey they aren'
t farming us for a cull at some point when our population growth makes a good crop. We might be their Maccie Dees

No humans were put on the protected species list. It's currently against the law to hunt humans. Though we do suspect every now and then they greys from alpha minor pop in for abductions. They snatch up humans for their intergalactic basket ball team. They have really scrawny arms and lost for centuries. Well at first they tried steroids but we're caught well now we believe they are extracting human hormones since they don't show up on the to X screen. The reason humans were placed on the list by the centaurians is they still feel guilty about wiping out thw dinosaurs.

It all started when a bunch of teenagers decided they wanted to go on spring break on j7p. Popular for teenagers the women there have 4 breasts. Needless to say spring break gets kind of wild.Any way of course they were drinking passing through your solar system they saw this green planet where now your asteroid belt is. Well kids being kids they landed to check it out. Little did they know that an intelligent species known as a dinosaurs picked them up on their deep space network. In their hurry to leave they activated their warp drive in the planets armosphere causing it to shatter. This sent a huge piece careening towards the earth.All the dinosaurs were wiped out except 3 who were on a stellar cartography mission. Last we heard they returned to earth around your middle ages landed and apparently the locals thought they were monsters and kept sending guys in armor to kill them.

So basically now they feel responsible and have taken humans under their wing pun intended since they actually do have wings.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: 2012newstart

They don'y intervene maybe because they monitor us but leave us to get on with it and don't want to disturb our natural development, a bit like we do the same with primitive (to western eyes) Amazinian indians. An advanced alien race would have gone through the pillage and destroy colonial phase and hopefully developed a conscience.

I hope this is the case, I know for fact that they are up there. I just prey they aren'
t farming us for a cull at some point when our population growth makes a good crop. We might be their Maccie Dees

No humans were put on the protected species list. It's currently against the law to hunt humans. Though we do suspect every now and then they greys from alpha minor pop in for abductions. They snatch up humans for their intergalactic basket ball team. They have really scrawny arms and lost for centuries. Well at first they tried steroids but we're caught well now we believe they are extracting human hormones since they don't show up on the to X screen. The reason humans were placed on the list by the centaurians is they still feel guilty about wiping out thw dinosaurs.

It all started when a bunch of teenagers decided they wanted to go on spring break on j7p. Popular for teenagers the women there have 4 breasts. Needless to say spring break gets kind of wild.Any way of course they were drinking passing through your solar system they saw this green planet where now your asteroid belt is. Well kids being kids they landed to check it out. Little did they know that an intelligent species known as a dinosaurs picked them up on their deep space network. In their hurry to leave they activated their warp drive in the planets armosphere causing it to shatter. This sent a huge piece careening towards the earth.All the dinosaurs were wiped out except 3 who were on a stellar cartography mission. Last we heard they returned to earth around your middle ages landed and apparently the locals thought they were monsters and kept sending guys in armor to kill them.

So basically now they feel responsible and have taken humans under their wing pun intended since they actually do have wings.

I was being serious. They are upto something with us

a reply to: anotherdaytoday

So because you give me some strange hypothetical situation, we can't overcome the problems in society? You lost me here. People can affect change. It happens all the time. Gay rights have advanced considerably in the last decade. Marijuana reform is around the corner. With the marijuana reform, we have people talking about war on drugs reform.

To believe that society is stagnant and we are trapped under the boot heel of oppression is just defeatist talk.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: 2012newstart

They don'y intervene maybe because they monitor us but leave us to get on with it and don't want to disturb our natural development, a bit like we do the same with primitive (to western eyes) Amazinian indians. An advanced alien race would have gone through the pillage and destroy colonial phase and hopefully developed a conscience.

I hope this is the case, I know for fact that they are up there. I just prey they aren'
t farming us for a cull at some point when our population growth makes a good crop. We might be their Maccie Dees

No humans were put on the protected species list. It's currently against the law to hunt humans. Though we do suspect every now and then they greys from alpha minor pop in for abductions. They snatch up humans for their intergalactic basket ball team. They have really scrawny arms and lost for centuries. Well at first they tried steroids but we're caught well now we believe they are extracting human hormones since they don't show up on the to X screen. The reason humans were placed on the list by the centaurians is they still feel guilty about wiping out thw dinosaurs.

It all started when a bunch of teenagers decided they wanted to go on spring break on j7p. Popular for teenagers the women there have 4 breasts. Needless to say spring break gets kind of wild.Any way of course they were drinking passing through your solar system they saw this green planet where now your asteroid belt is. Well kids being kids they landed to check it out. Little did they know that an intelligent species known as a dinosaurs picked them up on their deep space network. In their hurry to leave they activated their warp drive in the planets armosphere causing it to shatter. This sent a huge piece careening towards the earth.All the dinosaurs were wiped out except 3 who were on a stellar cartography mission. Last we heard they returned to earth around your middle ages landed and apparently the locals thought they were monsters and kept sending guys in armor to kill them.

So basically now they feel responsible and have taken humans under their wing pun intended since they actually do have wings.

I was being serious. They are upto something with us

Well being on the protected species list can send violators to gramir a pal planet on the 3rd moon of evast. So just file a report with galactic justice department. They will send someone by to investigate but please us 911911911 responsibly. They are very busy and false calls take away from their ability to catch real bad guys. PS last one to place a false statement is currently picking up trash for community service he got a 50 yr sentence. He has to clean out the trash bins here at the galactic offices. Keep in mind were running a galaxy so we create lots of trash. However he has been complaining lately and we don't have to pay him so on second thought.

On a serious note if aliens had come to earth and remained hidden.That only leaves a couple of possibilities all bad for us I might add.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Eventually mankind will find a way to "deal" with the situation. Problem is: this will take 1.000 years, with the given advancements. Until then and during this process the suffering continues very ugly and the outcome might be not be something we wish either. Maybe slavery all over again. It's already slavery now. Money slavery. The ones in power will do everything to keep their wealth, by means of exploitation and modern slavery. This is not hypothetical, this is fact. Try to stand up against it - you can't, until you are given enough power and wealth yourself.

About the Marijuna reform: point is, it hardly matters. Legalization of drugs are just a gimmick to keep the minds of the population busy, so they don't care about the real world problems. Exactly the same with gay/lesbians rights: it just diverts from the real problems, which are, that these kinds of intolerances even exist. In a healthy society this problem wouldn't even exist. People would just accept people as they are. But we don't live in a healthy society. We live in a sick society, ruled by money, etiquettes, economy, dogmas. And it's a long way to go to a healthy society.

But again: the beings in power will try everything to keep their power. Divide and conquer. Make chaos and you rule the scattered minds. They hate united people. Because united people are strong. The ones in power have full buckets of $hize behind their bag to feed us bit by bit, keeping us busy and distracted with minor things, while they keep their power and control. I wouldn't be sure at all, that the outcome of the advancement in 1.000 years is better than being "harvested" by alien invaders. An alien invasion, for example, would "unite" people once again.

I'm not saying there is no progress - but the advancements are very slow and we will hardly experience a major change in our lifetimes. And the lives of many are miserable, and will continue to be miserable too for their children and grandchildren. So they want a change. But hey don't have the power to change it themselves. Of course benevolent aliens would be a solution, introducing us a new way of living, removing the power from the powers that be. But again, I see enough problems to do something like this even if I were an alien. That alien must be very dedicated to mankind to make that effort.
I'm not sure how it was in ancient times, if we assumed aliens kept people in egypt, maya etc. under control. But at that time larger potions of the population were probably accumulated on a handful specific places, rather than nowadays where mankind is spread all over the world.

originally posted by: anotherdaytoday
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Eventually mankind will find a way to "deal" with the situation. Problem is: this will take 1.000 years, with the given advancements. Until then and during this process the suffering continues very ugly and the outcome might be not be something we wish either. Maybe slavery all over again. It's already slavery now. Money slavery. The ones in power will do everything to keep their wealth, by means of exploitation and modern slavery. This is not hypothetical, this is fact. Try to stand up against it - you can't, until you are given enough power and wealth yourself.

Sorry bud. Good change doesn't happen overnight. It takes time. The old people set in their ways need to die off and the younger people need to grow up and proliferate the new ideas.

About the Marijuna reform: point is, it hardly matters. Legalization of drugs are just a gimmick to keep the minds of the population busy, so they don't care about the real world problems. Exactly the same with gay/lesbians rights: it just diverts from the real problems, which are, that these kinds of intolerances even exist. In a healthy society this problem wouldn't even exist. People would just accept people as they are. But we don't live in a healthy society. We live in a sick society, ruled by money, etiquettes, economy, dogmas. And it's a long way to go to a healthy society.

Healthy society? What exactly is a healthy society? I'd like you to define that for me. Can you give me an example of a healthy society that has existed in the past? I'm warning you in advance, these are loaded questions. I hope you've thought this through well or else I'm going to debunk this claim rather easily.

But again: the beings in power will try everything to keep their power. Divide and conquer. Make chaos and you rule the scattered minds. They hate united people. Because united people are string. The ones in power have full buckets of # behind their bag to feed us bit by bit, keeping us busy and distracted with minor things, while they keep their power and control. I wouldn't be sure at all, that the outcome of the advancement in 1.000 years is better than being "harvested" by alien invaders. An alien invasion, for example, would "unite" people once again.

I won't deny that people in positions of power will do what they can to maintain that power, but we exist in a time in history where more people than ever are wealthy. We lament the 1%, but the size of the 1% is the largest its ever been. And that's not just because of an application of percentages and the size of our population. It's because our society offers more upward mobility than ever before. You may not consider it to be the desirable amount of upward mobility, but we are certainly sitting better than any previous civilization in that regard.

I'm not saying there is no progress - but the advancements are very slow and we will hardly experience a major change in our lifetimes. And you can't blame people that they want it fastened up. Even if it means by alien intervention. Of course benevolent aliens are always better than a huge wave of destruction and death.

Quick change only leads to more problems. Many of society's current problems exist because of knee jerk reactions to things that people wanted to change quickly. Society needs to learn patience. Impatience is killing us.

PS: ATS isn't an accurate reflection of the real world. Heck even the MSM isn't an accurate reflection of the real world. The world really isn't in as bad of shape as those two media outlets make it seem.

While I agree with asking for help, and it would really change if everyone did, not wishing for bloodshed or anyone to be harmed in becoming free of this slavery, the problem is, this is either a boot camp, playpen or prison, depending on how one views it, for the cosmos and we're meant to grow up and achieve higher mind solutions to the problems here. And that would be akin to asking teachers to take away the course material from the students, which would in turn mean they couldn't graduate or achieve the higher levels on their own, as individuals with free wills, and no one wants to be a puppet, but to a bird freed from the nest who chooses to grow and fly home.

But I still agree that if enough people wanted a decent caring world, Freedom and Equality wedded, progressed, empowerment of the little people, etc, it would be pretty hard to attain here even if a majority were behind. If a majority wake up the slavers running this planet would just call a huge world war to lower frequency again.

I do ask for help, for you can't compromise your peace and kindness in the struggle for freedom and become like them to get rid of them.
And this is not only over our heads here on earth, for we don't have the resources to counter what they have for tech to ensure even a majority go under, but also, their overlords are offplanet and are the real shakers and movers in this solar system ie. Saturn and Venus.

So it does take Higher Power. Not sure that ET or Angel-ET, whoever the Good/Hero's are, that would step up to the plate, would want to diaper and burp us, economy would collapse. Think even if we ask for help we still can't forgo the shortcuts of councils of citizens who think tank and problem solve and start to determine what they want, and take actions so that guidance would not mean running our world, we'd rise to the occasion.

originally posted by: Wifibrains
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I vote for hot ET space babes to come and lay down some love on the planet earth.

You had better create your arc then...

Nice avatar.

Thanks I have had a few dreams of giant alien women so I imagine they may be out there somewhere. Could be wishful thinking too lol.

There are quite a few stories of alien space babes who have made contact, I tend to like the giant ones with superpowers lol. . . .

On the other hand, think the system already is interactive. The more good you do, ie feeding the poor, and working to help those in need, without judgements or blame, but becoming angels of understanding/healing and creating win/wins, while also helping clean up earth and have mercy on nature and all creatures great and small, THE MORE GOOD COMES IN OR OPERATES BEHIND THE SCENES AND INSPIRES US TO VICTORY OR PROTECTION.

The more apathy, the more enabling this system we do, the more evil operates. There are two competing sides up there and they get access via us.

Based on the real interactiveness of this simulated reality system, even the little guy can bring in alot of help, even if he never knew it was there in the tests.

originally posted by: Krazysh0tHealthy society? What exactly is a healthy society? I'd like you to define that for me. Can you give me an example of a healthy society that has existed in the past? I'm warning you in advance, these are loaded questions. I hope you've thought this through well or else I'm going to debunk this claim rather easily.

Quick change only leads to more problems. Many of society's current problems exist because of knee jerk reactions to things that people wanted to change quickly. Society needs to learn patience. Impatience is killing us.

PS: ATS isn't an accurate reflection of the real world. Heck even the MSM isn't an accurate reflection of the real world. The world really isn't in as bad of shape as those two media outlets make it seem.

These are indeed loaded questions. Actually I'm elaborating the basics of a healthy society and will publish it sooner or later. Such a society comes not without compromises either. But the compromises are less than people have nowadays under the current exploitation and daily pressure. The main principle behind it is that the whole mankind is seen as one "organism". That means that everyone gets equal freedom and ressources, while at the same time must invest a tiny bit of work to keep the "organism" alive. The organism also provides a living standard or "technological" standard. Every single individuum gets the same technological living standard. The higher a civilization evolves the more comfort and luxurioty everyone gets. The compromise is that many things need to be unified. And there are also pitfalls where this system could be exploited by evil mindsets.

And as you say... during this process I also realized that the real world and people are often not as bad as represented by the MSM. One must indeed be careful what and whom to blame. But it doesn't change the fact, that our society and integrity is in bad shape. I sometimes wished ETs would just throw themselves in and give a hand to our miserable state of being.