Here's the most expensive weapons system ever and all of its ammunition in one photo

originally posted by: grey580

originally posted by: soulwaxer
a reply to: grey580
I live in Belgium, population 11 million. We give more humanitarian aid than you do per head... Not that that has anything to do with it, it's all politics.

You have enough nukes to kill everyone on the planet 10 times over. How is that going to defend your country?

Oh, and maybe you should think about how valuable all those weapons were in defending you on 9/11, the only time your country was ever attacked on the mainland. Not one bullet was fired to prevent it.

Fail.

soulwaxer

I love belgium beer. st bernardus abt 12 is my fav.

as for 9/11. you know this is a conspiracy website right.
Someone let that happen.

Duvel is my favorite.

I love many things in the US as well, also the people. Lived there during all of the eighties. Though it makes me sad to see what you are letting your leaders do to your beautiful country.

9/11: Not only let it happen. That's obvious enough, and it was a subtle point I was trying to make.

soulwaxer

a reply to: soulwaxer

Do you know why I'M salivating? I'm proud that my country produced such an advanced weapon.

Granted, it's for the purpose of destruction, but it represents the best efforts of a group of American minds. I am just as proud of our other engineers and technicians who have produced other American products.

Is it wrong to be proud of one's fellow citizens?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: grey580

We americans love Belgium. Flemish art, Good people, excellent martial artists (silat is big there), Intelligent laws....


But most importantly ... Chimay!!!!

Actually, there are some very stupid laws here too. Did you know that every gasstation along the freeway can and does sell canned beer? They have more beer stocked than soft-drinks. You have to dodge stacks of cases of beer to get to the soft-drinks. You can drink beer here while you're driving, as long as the alcohol percentage in your blood is within the limit. That's putting the cat by the milk, in my opinion.

But on the other hand, most people here can handle quite a bit of beer.

Chimay is very good indeed!

soulwaxer

originally posted by: soulwaxer
a reply to: grey580
I live in Belgium, population 11 million. We give more humanitarian aid than you do per head... Not that that has anything to do with it, it's all politics.

You have enough nukes to kill everyone on the planet 10 times over. How is that going to defend your country?

Oh, and maybe you should think about how valuable all those weapons were in defending you on 9/11, the only time your country was ever attacked on the mainland. Not one bullet was fired to prevent it.

Fail.

soulwaxer

Hm... we made pretty good use of our weapons, along with our allies, to kick the Nazis out of Belgium during WWII.

But hey, don't let that slow your good ol' America-bashing session.

originally posted by: Obsrvr
a reply to: soulwaxer

Do you know why I'M salivating? I'm proud that my country produced such an advanced weapon.

Granted, it's for the purpose of destruction, but it represents the best efforts of a group of American minds. I am just as proud of our other engineers and technicians who have produced other American products.

Is it wrong to be proud of one's fellow citizens?

No, I don't think it's wrong to be proud of such advanced technology. I just find it bad taste to boast about it and call it "sweet". Young people are easily influenced by that, and this has a huge effect on your culture.

As I wrote somewhere above, I lived in your country for 10 years, so I have a pretty good perspective on two very different cultures. Over here, you will rarely hear adults glorifying weapons. It's just bad taste and disrespectful to the people they kill. But sadly, the youth here today is becoming influenced by your culture of aggression at an alarming pace.

soulwaxer

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: soulwaxer
a reply to: grey580
I live in Belgium, population 11 million. We give more humanitarian aid than you do per head... Not that that has anything to do with it, it's all politics.

You have enough nukes to kill everyone on the planet 10 times over. How is that going to defend your country?

Oh, and maybe you should think about how valuable all those weapons were in defending you on 9/11, the only time your country was ever attacked on the mainland. Not one bullet was fired to prevent it.

Fail.

soulwaxer

Hm... we made pretty good use of our weapons, along with our allies, to kick the Nazis out of Belgium during WWII.

But hey, don't let that slow your good ol' America-bashing session.

Ever heard of a guy named Wernher von Braun? He was a Nazi and you kicked his ass straight into your own weapons programs... LOL

US foreign policy has changed drastically since WWII, especially after the assassination of JFK.

My intention is not bashing America. The only thing I've been bashing is the culture of glorifying weapons and wars of aggression. The following come to mind: "Operation Desert Storm", "Shock and Awe", ... These were presented in pure Hollywood style. Especially looking back at those disasters, you should have learned something, no?

soulwaxer

originally posted by: grey580
But we are also the largest givers of humanitarian aid in the world.

Great P.R. that, but simple diversion tactics to hide the sins imo.

PLEASE RETURN TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD.

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We Americans love Belgium

a reply to: BASSPLYR

not that I know of. What's to love?

a reply to: soulwaxer

Ahh that's nothing in texas they have drive through liquor stores!!!

The Belgians are doing much better in the not so stupid laws or people thing than we are. But that being said the F-35 will have some awesome abilities sensor fusion wise that could be a game changer in aviation warfare.

Personally, Id like to see the F-35 play the quarterback roll with it's enhanced sensor suite fusion and unprecedented situational awareness, coordinating F-22's and hanging back with the missile trucks launching missiles at aggressor aircraft.

Like have a b1 roll in loaded to the brim with missiles. Have a F-35 escort it but mainly doing the quarterback thing for the squad. Have some f-22's as the muscle and bouncers, slinking around ahead and behind the squad to take care of any interlopers. Have the data from the f-22's and other aircraft sent to the F-35 who delegates the missiles and the b1 just blindly fires when told to. Next thing Russia or china knows is that there is a crap ton of missiles coming their way and no way to get to the aircraft launching them thanks to the f-22s. So the F-35 could have many more roles than we are all thinking of and is possibly worth some of the money that's being spent on it. Would be cool to have EODAS on the 22's but whats to say that there isn't something even stealthier and deadlier that will be performing that roll instead and does have all the bells and whistles.

a reply to: donktheclown

Their Beer, Their contribution to art work, Perspective drawing, their solid martial arts, good looking chicks, generally friendly people. Did I mention kick ass beer that can actually get you drunk and isn't 211 !!!!

But I bet that that picture as awesome as it is (referring to the OP) is NOT the most expensive aircraft ever built for military purposes. Their was/is a lot of stuff that's not disclosed that I'm sure cost even more to make/design etc...

a reply to: grey580

This aircraft is just the beginning of what`s to come in the aviation world. I`m starting to think that if every single detail were to be de-classified and laid out here, there would still be people knocking it because they just don't get it and don't want to. Maybe its just for the star count, just what it looks like to me. Naysayers are going to nay, like a pack of horses all running after the same per-conceived notions.

Many must get the idea of combat flying through a console or computer flight sim or rather flight arcade game and think its that easy all the time, The F-35 will get the pilots closer to that capability. To give an example, it will make Falcon 4.0 seem like Ace Combat to those familiar with flight sims.

I just hope I can get a Lightning or Raptor demo team for the airshow, I grew up with the F-22 and used to know it as the Lighting II years before the F-35 came out and Ive followed her from the very beginning, haven't had the chance to see either in real life yet.

Personally I like the F-35B the best, the shape is sexier than the other two and it looks damn good sitting on the deck of a carrier. Plus with its larger wings I'll wager a bit more maneuverable as well.

a reply to: StratosFear


Right on. I'm hoping to see the f22 demo in Chico California on either may 2nd or 3rd. Looking forward to seeing her to her stuff.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Every F-22 built gave us a private airshow during testing. Even had two Flankers join the fun.

I've been lucky enough to see them both fly. Haven't seen the F-35 really pushed but man does that thing scream.

IMO it's louder than the F-22 hands down. They both fly in my area all the time. Especially the F-22, can always tell her by the high pitch whine.

a reply to: GuidedKill

It is. The F119-PW-100 is rated at 26,000 pounds dry, and 36,000 pounds with afterburner each.

The F135 rated at 28,000 pounds dry, and 43,000 pounds in afterburner. It's the most powerful engine ever put into a single engine fighter.

An F-16, which is loud to begin with, runs about 94 decibels. The F-35 runs about 115.

a reply to: Zaphod58

What are those 2000lb JDAM looking bombs with the spots on it.

i would assume its some sensor or something for the bomb? maybe a sea mine?