BREAKING: Iran Forces Seize US Cargo Ship With 34 People On Board

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: bullcat
Yet nobody hollared a pip when Israel shot the living daylights out of a ship carrying aid to Gaza.

YEah and it turns out they were right in doing so since they found weapons on board in the hold if i remember.

No doubt there is weapons on this one too then, just like the QE2 had American arms for the IRA.

Obviously not or they would not had RELEASED IT SO QUICKLY. If Iran found weapons on board they would had made a big deal out of it. HAman said they released it already apparently with no further incident.

And don't they have every right to check?

I'm checked every time I fly or boat to the US, and I am an ALLY (so they claim).

Worse than that; I am checked BEFORE I leave my own country!

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: haman10
The ship was carrying the flag of marshall islands . they violated our waters by mistake and got apprehended . there is nothing special about this .

They are free as we speak .

Our Navy has very strict rules , even when UK Navy boat mistakenly violated our waters , they were arrested and later freed .

its common practice .

According to maritime maps they were right where they were supossed to be according to CNN and the company who monitors them from space by GPS. The Iranis TOLD THEM to follow them after firing a intimidation shot. Prolly to just inspect its cargo though. They could had just asked instead of firing a warning shot and the capt would had let them do a quick inspection to avoid a delay.

When they heard a US ship was coming they released the ship instead of risking a incident IF what you say about them being freed is correct.

According to "CNN" ? lol are you kidding me right now ?

does CNN have a base in persian gulf ? if not , i choose to believe what my Navy's officials tell me . and thats : they have mistakenly violated our waters .

The whole persian gulf is under our control : anything that gets in is monitored by our navy and directly responds to us . they all ask permission to enter persian gulf from Iran and when getting out from Oman . virtually the whole persian gulf and hurmoz is our territorial water .

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: haman10

That statement got under my skin it's your antagonistic and race card bull, you know what, let your leadership do some stupid # and see how long Iran exists beyond and American proxy state.

Honestly

Hypocrisy.

Someone makes a silly comment and you go all RAR RAR and threaten a invasion!

Attitudes like that don't help.

Attitudes like that are why the USA tops the ATS poll for biggest threat,

Chill.

Going round threatening to bomb and invade everyone does little to help the US except make people hate you.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: haman10
The ship was carrying the flag of marshall islands . they violated our waters by mistake and got apprehended . there is nothing special about this .

They are free as we speak .

Our Navy has very strict rules , even when UK Navy boat mistakenly violated our waters , they were arrested and later freed .

its common practice .

When they heard a US ship was coming they released the ship instead of risking a incident IF what you say about them being freed is correct.

This makes sense. The U.S. Destroyer was less than 60 miles from the cargo ship at the time of the incident and set course towards the event.

I'm still not clear as to whether or not the cargo ship actually violated Iranian waters.
Is there a boundary dispute in that area between what is claimed as sovereign or international?

Iran is like CHINA when it comes to claiming waterways. The PEople tracking the ship said it did not violate their territorial waters but those change according to the mood of the Iranians from day to day apparently lol!

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: haman10
The ship was carrying the flag of marshall islands . they violated our waters by mistake and got apprehended . there is nothing special about this .

They are free as we speak .

Our Navy has very strict rules , even when UK Navy boat mistakenly violated our waters , they were arrested and later freed .

its common practice .

When they heard a US ship was coming they released the ship instead of risking a incident IF what you say about them being freed is correct.

This makes sense. The U.S. Destroyer was less than 60 miles from the cargo ship at the time of the incident and set course towards the event.

I'm still not clear as to whether or not the cargo ship actually violated Iranian waters.
Is there a boundary dispute in that area between what is claimed as sovereign or international?

Iran is like CHINA when it comes to claiming waterways. The PEople tracking the ship said it did not violate their territorial waters but those change according to the mood of the Iranians from day to day apparently lol!

Is your next post going to equate Iran to Nazis?

originally posted by: Crumbles
a reply to: intrptr

Hate to break it to you my man, but the middle east has never been at peace. It has been at a constant state of war for some time.

Not that the US hasn't been directly involved "for some time" waging aggressive wars against several countries, either directly, under the NATO banner, or through proxy.

Take the US out of the equation (oh, and Israel) maybe it would be more peaceful…

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: haman10

That statement got under my skin it's your antagonistic and race card bull, you know what, let your leadership do some stupid # and see how long Iran exists beyond and American proxy state.

Plus a country threatens to defend itself if attacked and you get irritated?

I mean FFS are country's not entailed to defend themselves if attacked? Or do they have to throw the red carpet out for us in the west?

I bet if someone threaten to attack the US you would threaten to fight back!

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: haman10

That statement got under my skin it's your antagonistic and race card bull, you know what, let your leadership do some stupid # and see how long Iran exists beyond and American proxy state.

Plus a country threatens to defend itself if attacked and you get irritated?

I mean FFS are country's not entailed to defend themselves if attacked? Or do they have to throw the red carpet out for us in the west?

Yes, No, Yes .

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: haman10

That statement got under my skin it's your antagonistic and race card bull, you know what, let your leadership do some stupid # and see how long Iran exists beyond and American proxy state.

LOL . alright there big boy .

How old are you son ?

trust me son , war is no good . i've seen it and i've felt it . and war with Iran is worse than anything your father and his father before him has ever seen .

Lets chill out there little buddy .

a reply to: dragonridr

So is the BBC American officials have denied media reports that a US cargo ship had been seized by the Iranian navy.

If they issue a denial thats how you know its true. They don't tend to respond through the media unless they are covering up or out and out lying about something.

If this is true then I really don't care why.

Return the crew and the ship to US control before this escalates.

originally posted by: darkbake

(Reuters) - Iranian forces boarded a Marshall Islands-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf on Tuesday after patrol boats fired warning shots across its bow and ordered it deeper into Iranian waters, the Pentagon said.

U.S. planes and a destroyer were monitoring the situation after the vessel, the MV Maersk Tigris, made a distress call in the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most important oil shipping channels.

Reuters

Last paragraph:

Reuters tracking data showed the Maersk Tigris, a 65,000-tonne container ship, off the Iranian coast between the islands of Qeshm and Hormuz. It had been listed as sailing from the Saudi port of Jeddah, bound for the United Arab Emirates port of Jebel Ali.

If that is where she was when this started, she certainly was in Iranian TTW ... but that is also the route they would take en route Bandar-e Abbas

(Reuters) - Iranian forces boarded a Marshall Islands-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf on Tuesday after patrol boats fired warning shots across its bow and ordered it deeper into Iranian waters, the Pentagon said.

Now my english might not be perfect , but i think "deeper into Iranian waters" means it was already in Iranian waters .

That being said , Iranian officials confirmed that they intercepted the cargo because it violated our waters .

I really don't know whats all this fuss about

originally posted by: AllSourceIntel

originally posted by: darkbake

(Reuters) - Iranian forces boarded a Marshall Islands-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf on Tuesday after patrol boats fired warning shots across its bow and ordered it deeper into Iranian waters, the Pentagon said.

U.S. planes and a destroyer were monitoring the situation after the vessel, the MV Maersk Tigris, made a distress call in the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most important oil shipping channels.

Reuters

Last paragraph:

Reuters tracking data showed the Maersk Tigris, a 65,000-tonne container ship, off the Iranian coast between the islands of Qeshm and Hormuz. It had been listed as sailing from the Saudi port of Jeddah, bound for the United Arab Emirates port of Jebel Ali.

If that is where she was when this started, she certainly was in Iranian TTW ... but that is also the route they would take en route Bandar-e Abbas

Iran is not stupid, they won't grab a ship without good reason. For obvious reasons.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: IAMTAT

There is only 2 types of ships in the region - Military and Merchant Tankers / general cargo.

IF true, this could only be a merchant vessel as no-one is stupid enough to fire on a US Navy vessel (it would not be "escorted" anywhere let me give you the tip)

The US Navy is in the region, as are US owned / flagged merchant vessels.

I GUARANTEE the vessel in question has breached sovereign waters and is now paying the price under IMO (International Maritime Organization) protocols.

Prepare for BS propaganda to say otherwise, but I HAVE vessels in the region too and the US are ship-stirrers around the Strait of Hormuz - have been "testing the waters" for a while now.

Pun intended.

That's incorrect. Iran for a long time has illegally claimed waters that are by international law areas of "safe passage" due to them being part of the straits of Hormuz. Iran has done stuff like this before.

a reply to: bullcat
Yes, I am well aware.

haman10 can you give us some feedback what are Iranian newspaper saying about this?

originally posted by: haman10
(Reuters) - Iranian forces boarded a Marshall Islands-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf on Tuesday after patrol boats fired warning shots across its bow and ordered it deeper into Iranian waters, the Pentagon said.

Now my english might not be perfect , but i think "deeper into Iranian waters" means it was already in Iranian waters .

That being said , Iranian officials confirmed that they intercepted the cargo because it violated our waters .

I really don't know whats all this fuss about

If they transit the SOH, they are transiting in IR TTW ... like I said before, I have seen vessels stray off course and watched IRGCN and IRN approach and contact these vessels ... and they are always meters off US Naval ships if they see them transiting.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: IAMTAT

There is only 2 types of ships in the region - Military and Merchant Tankers / general cargo.

IF true, this could only be a merchant vessel as no-one is stupid enough to fire on a US Navy vessel (it would not be "escorted" anywhere let me give you the tip)

The US Navy is in the region, as are US owned / flagged merchant vessels.

I GUARANTEE the vessel in question has breached sovereign waters and is now paying the price under IMO (International Maritime Organization) protocols.

Prepare for BS propaganda to say otherwise, but I HAVE vessels in the region too and the US are ship-stirrers around the Strait of Hormuz - have been "testing the waters" for a while now.

Pun intended.

That's incorrect. Iran for a long time has illegally claimed waters that are by international law areas of "safe passage" due to them being part of the straits of Hormuz. Iran has done stuff like this before.

Such as ? which illegally claimed water ?

oh lord have mercy

a reply to: haman10

Haman,
If Iran claims the entire Persian Gulf is under their control, how are U.S. Naval warships in the gulf allowed?
Does Iran grant them permission?
Also, what about the other countries in the Persian Gulf? Do they claim waters, as well?