Rival Gangs Enter Partnership to Assassinate Baltimore Police Officers (updated 3x)

originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Jahari

Do not get me wrong......I think the US is ruled by a corporate oligarchy and the US has become a police state to some degree.



That being said what came first the chicken or the egg.........Inner city police deal with scum bags daily that could and would harm them. This makes them very,very.....very jumpy and hard.

The police violence came first of course. It's been going on for generations. Needless to say, the causes has changed. We as a society have really went down hill morally and economically speaking so the poorest of us will display it in a more extreme way simply from being closer to the edge. You have some people which is the majority trying to have a peaceful protest. Then you have the media darling thugs which makes for better tv, pushes the racial agenda and keeps us fighting amongst ourselves. I'm embarrassed to see these people riot and I'm equally embarrassed I fought for a country that won't address the issues of its people but would send me and my fellow brothers and sisters that serve to fight and possible die to bring another country American so called freedom and democracy. How bout we get it right here before we try to forcefully implement it somewhere else.

a reply to: DAZ21
Nah! That's a movie. If and when it really comes down to it, if gangs and cops go at it and shootouts happen on a mass scale. Eventually they will declare martial law, send the army in or PMC's....And? Well, lets just say they have more resources at there disposal to deal with this sort of thing, for instance.. its kind of hard to shoot at Apache gunship helicopter down with a glock now isn't it? There are so many toys which you can put out there that the hardest thing to do is choosing one. My personal favorite would be drones, just fly around and bam bam like shooting fish in a barrel from the convenience of your own barracks.

Literally you can mow down all these hardened gangs and even armed to the teeth militia men in days if it actually came to that and a full on street war. And then you know! What people have been crying about on this site for a long while fema camps and the whole thing. I really dont think it will come to that. But you never know, people have been known and have a long history of doing stupid #.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

Is no one concerned that the OP articles have no mention whatsoever of the gangs threats. I'm still waiting for answers.

a reply to: daftpink
Since when has the public ever been concerned with actual threats? Not in a long time if ever...right? Do they even know the difference?

Most perceived threats are more likely to get things moving and be more dangerous then real threats, # whole wars and hundreds of thousands of people have killed and died for less. But what I am saying is. Even if these gangs struck a pact to come together all over the country and arm up with everything at there disposal and run amok gunning down cops civilians anyone in there way. Well! They would still stand zero chance if martial law were declared. Whats the term...Outgunned out-maned out everything.

So ya! Its all silly #.

originally posted by: daftpink
a reply to: galadofwarthethird

Is no one concerned that the OP articles have no mention whatsoever of the gangs threats. I'm still waiting for answers.

I'm not concerned but it doesn't surprise me either. Bloods and crypts are the closest fear construct to Al Qeada the American people can relate to here in the States. Booga Booga and all that.

I can't believe how worked up people are getting over these news reports.

The gangs are not going to war with the government, there to busy fighting each other over a multi-billion dollar illicit trade. That's what the whole 'war on drugs' is about, a way to control the poor and keep them from standing together against the government.

But now that everyone has accepted this 'false flag' by the MSM without question, all its going to take is some 15 year old who's been influenced by all the media reports, deciding he's gonna get street credit by shooting a cop, then the government will have the green light from the public to go mow these protesters down.

Mass manipulation at its best.

I was surprised by the guy on Sky news comparing Casualty rates of US police officers and US armed forces in Afghanistan earlier.

Police casualties in US

US casualties in Afghanistan

As you can see, the cops have it as bad in the US as the soldiers do in Afghan (Broadly, I know there are four years of very high casualties in Afghan).

There's the reason why American cops act the way they do, they're dealing with the same feelings and fears as frontline troops in a bloody warzone!

Maybe if they didn't fear for their lives everytime they got out of their cars there would be less of this stuff?

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
I can't believe how worked up people are getting over these news reports.

The gangs are not going to war with the government, there to busy fighting each other over a multi-billion dollar illicit trade. That's what the whole 'war on drugs' is about, a way to control the poor and keep them from standing together against the government.

But now that everyone has accepted this 'false flag' by the MSM without question, all its going to take is some 15 year old who's been influenced by all the media reports, deciding he's gonna get street credit by shooting a cop, then the government will have the green light from the public to go mow these protesters down.

Mass manipulation at its best.

Finally someone speaking a bit of sense. My question is where has this image of this 'threat letter' came from? Twitter? Cos it is not in the articles cited by the OP. Am I missing something OP? If so feel free to explain.

I just expected a bit more about it other than Daily Mail sensationalism. This post is top on the top topics...do the claims it makes have any substance is all I'm asking (and decent evidence to back it up)????

a reply to: SprocketUK

That list includes heart attacks though and accidental weapons fire. Not sure if you can call that, killed in the line of duty.

There's the reason why American cops act the way they do, they're dealing with the same feelings and fears as frontline troops in a bloody warzone!

It's also because they hire people out of universities and ivy league schools who have NEVER dealt with anything close to this. Law enforcement used to be filled with ex soldiers and milita men.

Maybe if they didn't fear for their lives everytime they got out of their cars there would be less of this stuff?

If he hired and trained people who weren't afraid all the time, yes, there would be less issues with police.

~Tenth

nvm

a reply to: SprocketUK

Don't be surprised! Sky have an agenda, they are all in cahoots. This is PROPAGANDA.

Tothetenthpower I'd imagine the same could be said for deaths in Afghan, I know the MOD included traffic accidents in their figures for the UK



a reply to: daftpink


that's why I looked it up

a reply to: andy1972

I agree, it seems to me there is a problem with looking for racism where there may be none. Don't get me wrong, I understand there are racists everywhere, the cops need a kick up the arse in terms of instilling the idea that they are there to protect and serve and not 'I am the law'.

What struck me, watching the reports last night from Baltimore was the way in which the black community in many ways gave out a 'us and them' view. It was quite shocking.

The use of im an 'African American', a phrase I don't understand in its use as they aren't African, they are Americans. Ive never heard the phrase 'im a European American' this whole promotion of being different to that of an American creates division. You can't promote difference then expect and people not to use it to create further divides.

2015, time to drop the race and colour labels where it really isn't needed.

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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
This situation is a consequential effect directly resultant from the simmering racial tension that America has simply refused to address - well before LA back in 1992.

Absolutely agree.

I mentioned earlier that race, politics and religion are the very obvious three divisions in America, potentially leading to extremism and civil unrest, and race and politics are the two primary ones to deal with - and should have been dealt with decades ago.

Focusing on race here, because ultimately that's what this is about, nothing has been done to rectify the damage over the last few decades. The Rodney King case should have been a national wake-up call, but it wasn't.

IMO, this goes back to the core of creating communities and maintaining them. It all starts with education too. Maybe if the US government had looked at the causes of the Rodney King event they would have realized that education and opportunity are the two primary factors here. They didn't do that though, did they? Education was never looked at, poverty was never looked at, opportunities weren't created. Instead, it was all called nothing more than an inexplicable riot over some thug cops.

The US government has done f-all to improve the education system for the most deprived areas of the country, over decades of neglect and underfunding. They have created ghettos and the culture which breeds within them. Take one look at the art coming out of these places and you'll see the disaffection. There is no aspiration there, other than getting as much as you can and at any cost. Does anyone here really think that a black man raised in Detroit has the same opportunities as a black man raised in a wealthy middle-class neighbourhood?

The same applies to any group of people. If roles were reversed, and we look at a poor area of London, the same applies. Lack of education, lack of stability, lack of decent housing, lack of opportunities... it all results in the same systematic problem.

This all comes down to inequality and the sense of injustice that comes from it.

The US government needs to immediately act to fund schools properly across the country, creating a level playing field with equal opportunities for all young people. At the same time, they need to create a national movement of self-improvement, encouraging locals to get involved in rebuilding and maintaining their own neighbourhoods. They need to do all of this while ensuring that police are held accountable to the communities they are supposed to work with, not "keep under control" the way they have been.

a reply to: Rocker2013

There are many places that have poor quality education facilities and lack of opportunity, regardless of race.

It does create an atmosphere where resentment sets in but are you suggesting that those rioting in Baltimore have been given less because of their race?

This all comes down to inequality and the sense of injustice that comes from it.

a reply to: Rocker2013

No... this all comes down to a choice and a mindset. Be ignorant and stupid or not..

Free resources have been available for many years for all people of limited means to get an education, instead they choose to be lazy and remain stupid.

originally posted by: ProleUK
a reply to: andy1972

I agree, it seems to me there is a problem with looking for racism where there may be none. Don't get me wrong, I understand there are racists everywhere, the cops need a kick up the arse in terms of instilling the idea that they are there to protect and serve and not 'I am the law'.

What struck me, watching the reports last night from Baltimore was the way in which the black community in many ways gave out a 'us and them' view. It was quite shocking.

The use of im an 'African American', a phrase I don't understand in its use as they aren't African, they are Americans. Ive never heard the phrase 'im a European American' this whole promotion of being different to that of an American creates division. You can't promote difference then expect and people not to use it to create further divides.

2015, time to drop the race and colour labels where it really isn't needed.

Since you're not an American, you won't understand. We "African Americans" were first called "African" Americans because "normal" Americans didn't accept us as real Americans, The same for Native Americans, Cuban Americans, Pakistani Americans, etc.

Also, the US government and the different State governments have given us many different labels over time. We were officially "slaves", "Negroes", "coloreds", "blacks", and now are "African Americans". Back during the years of the "Black Codes" (1865-1875-ish), all people officially classified as "blacks" were legally 2nd class citizens. In fact, many of the "Black Codes" laws were identical to their "Slave Code" laws, except they would change the wording to "black" or "servant", instead of "slave".

Then during the Segregation/Jim Crow laws (1875-ish to 1960s), we were officially labeled "blacks", "coloreds", and "Negroes". Depending on the state, that category included anyone with 1/16th to 1 drop of their ancestry being "black". All people in this category were legally 2nd class citizens. The NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) chose "colored people" because this was the most politically correct term at the time it was founded, because it actually acknowledged us as being people instead of sub-humans.

Nowadays, the "best sounding" term is "African American", because it at least recognizes us as Americans. It's usually the term on government forms too, though some use "black" still (I think, haven't checked recently to verify).

What was it like 5 or 6 heavy hit areas, most on one street. I saw they burned down a nursing home. A rather large and pricey one as well it seems. Still think it can get a lot worse then it is right now. We're still not past just a riot and looting. It's hasn't turned in to a full blow war zone yet. But we're only in day two of the riots so far so it'll most likely die down by the next couple of days.

I wonder how many business will leave the area after this.

a reply to: elfrog

This is exactly what you get from a country built on inherent and institutionalised racism.

When will you learn, America?