Titor's American Federal Empire - symbol found?

Originally posted by radagast
soooooo all it takes is an e-mail, and you wonder if its from 2036 ? I try to be open minded here, but I would suggest you turn your skepticism up a few notches, hold things to a higher standard of proof.

i agree with radagast
This is a fake, looks like its taken from a computer game.

This was apparently sent to me by one of those anonymous emailers because when I tried responding it got bounced back to me. Aafter that happened (with all the viruses, etc. around), I kept the picture but deleted all the email.

Somebody asked about my take on the symbolism. What I see is the republican symbol displayed in a militaristic way. I look at this two possible ways. Either take it at face value (which sounds like something from Titor) or it could be from opponents of US policy done in a way to mock current leaders and actions.

Why was it sent to me? Well, I've made no secret of my interest in John Titor to a lot of people ever since I first discovered it on ATS. Especially had a lot of 'lively' discussions on this leading up to the last election because I believed that a disputed outcome like we saw in Florida in 2000 could be the spark that would set the civil war part of the prophesy in motion. Thank God things didn't happen that way.

So, who sent it? Guess I'll never know. I've asked the 'likely suspects', but no one's admitting anything so far. I will post it if anyone confesses.

yeah, yeah, okay, but what about what the e-mail said? surely you did not just get a picture? and if you did, then let me just press the hoax button and get this over with

There wasn't any text in the email. The sender apparently felt the picture would be self-explanatory.

All I've ever said is I don't know what it's supposed to mean.

Like everything else about Titor, it generates more questions than answers.

That's all I know right now.

hmmmmm, centurion, can you tell us if the e-mail address you received this symbol at is public, as in available to ATS members, or is it relatively private ?

Originally posted by radagast
hmmmmm, centurion, can you tell us if the e-mail address you received this symbol at is public, as in available to ATS members, or is it relatively private ?

My personal email that I use for almost everything. Lot of friends, associates and businesses have it

what I was driving at was could an ATS member that knows your interest in titor have hoaxed you ?

soooooo all it takes is an e-mail, and you wonder if its from 2036 ? I try to be open minded here, but I would suggest you turn your skepticism up a few notches, hold things to a higher standard of proof.

Yeah, I mean seriousuly. Someone e-mails you something, and you are acting as it's some conspiracy. I hope you're not the type of guy who fell for the wealthy Nigerian that wants to give you $1 million trick.

Repeated post.

[edit on 23-12-2004 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by radagast
what I was driving at was could an ATS member that knows your interest in titor have hoaxed you ?

Sorry. No, not the same email as used here. Like I said, I talked about this with a lot of friends, etc.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by radagast
soooooo all it takes is an e-mail, and you wonder if its from 2036 ? I try to be open minded here, but I would suggest you turn your skepticism up a few notches, hold things to a higher standard of proof.

i agree with radagast
This is a fake, looks like its taken from a computer game.

You know..I was just researching that...I have found a game, that in away parallels what Titor says, but the game is new, so they could have created the concept of the game from Titor...but anyway..no image as the one in the thread, but the "factions" remind me of the description Titor gave

The game is called DavidHunter

"It is the year of 2004,
You have been told of the peace which resides within mankind, and protects it from anarchy, heresy, rebellion and self destruction.
You have been told of mankind's ultimate defence against fear and terror which lurks between the nations.
You have been told such treaties are the bright saviours in an eclipse of unwarranted evil.
You have been told that all nations are united in their cause to rid the world of any threat, from without or within.
You have been told that all is now well in the world.
Everything you have been told is a lie, until now!"

"Singleplayer David Hunter 4 presents the player with five separate but interwoven campaign stories set in the grim future of our solar system. One challenge of the game is to simply complete them all, but another is to find out how to access them. You start off in the same place, but that doesn't mean that the game ends the same way!



Factions



AFE (American Federal Empire)

The AFE is a brute force dependent navy which uses a large quantity of ordnance and firepower in conjunction with fairly heavy armour. Their craft are slower and more sluggish than those of any other, but they can take more hits than anyone else.



EMC (European Military Coalition)

The EMC favours a more all round naval capacity, with averaging armour and firepower, as well as versatile armour and speed ratios. The EMC also has a much high proportion of defensive systems than any other navy.



Republics of China

The Republics of China favour light fast craft with extraordinary manoeuvrability, as well as outstanding firepower. The Chinese navy is a strike hard, strike fast and strike first navy.



Mining Industry

The Mining industry lacks high technology, but makes up for its losses with sheer numbers. The Mining industry will throw huge quantities of its vessels at the enemy, creating an almost solid screen of metal and weapons fire.



The UNDH (United Nations David Hunters)

The UNDH campaign is by far the hardest to get into. However, the UNDH has the best technology available to mankind, featuring the best possible combinations of firepower, armour and agility that mankind has to offer. The UNDH are a very small elite force, so their pilots must be highly skilled to the maximum to survive the harshest of hostile combat situations."

davidhunter.game-mod.net...

Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Yeah, I mean seriousuly. Someone e-mails you something, and you are acting as it's some conspiracy. I hope you're not the type of guy who fell for the wealthy Nigerian that wants to give you $1 million trick.

Yeah, i have to agree with you.
I dont understand how this is an conspiracy related, especially to the New World Order

The AFE in titor's story is similar to the NWO, and the community from which the story draws its motifs and what not are the radical militia groups, who are certainly on the look out for something like the NWO.

Besides, the NWO forum is going to have to accomidate some coup d'etate conspiracy thinking no? Or should there be a non-nwo globalist/american takeover empire forum?

U2U me if you want to forward me the e-mail so I can examine the header information.

Originally posted by Blackout
U2U me if you want to forward me the e-mail so I can examine the header information.

I think he saved the picture and deleted the email. But if you still have it, defintely give it to someone for header information, although if someone can get a hold of that videogame that parrells John Titors story that would be extremly helpful. I'm intrigued by John Titor. Matter of fact I would spend $5 for a "I heart John Titor" shirt.