Will be Queen Elizabeth II the longest ever reigning monarch in British history?

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Perhaps, certainly less penchant for 'mines bigger than yours' wars, macho posturing and egotism.

It's an interesting puzzle. Modern monarchs haven't been directly involved in wars, anyway.
One factor will have been "coming to the throne young".
Surviving illness could be another factor. Elizabeth I caught smallpox and lived. Her brother died young.

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: ketsuko

Sounds like you misread my original comment which is that IMO of there is such a thing as ''god'' it is an omnipotent and infinite energy that is above being compared to human /animal standards of masculine/feminine defined roles. That is my opinion, three members have commented negatively on it so far and I didn't ask them to, it was part of a reply to another poster and is off topic.

People on ATS really ought to stop twisting words into something they aren't and looking for arguments, it is beyond tedious.

God is simply God. On that we agree. However, God created us male and female, each to complement and complete the other. For that reason, we are not complete beings inside ourselves but complements - two halves of the whole.

It would seem to be rather a strange idea if God had created two genders and then made them exactly alike.

a reply to: ketsuko

Your belief in 'god' is that of an organised religion, mine is my own, that is the difference.

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: hellobruce

Really Hellobruce?

Yes, really.

So why Charles is still on waiting for more than 59 years as a Prince of Wales?

Well, as his mother is not dead why shouldn't he wait? God is very happy with the job she is doing.

It does not seem that God is in a hurry to put him to rule Britain,

God is just following his ineffable plan.

a reply to: hellobruce

Come on hellobruce,

I know you are this time willing to be attorney of the devil, but be serious, the last Prince of Wales that waited almost sixty years to be King was Edward VII , the son of Queen Victoria, and he had a lover for almost all his adult( erous) life that was the Great Grand Aunt of Camila Parker-Bowles.

en.wikipedia.org...

Now the last Prince of Wales that abdicated the Throne was Edward VIII, the uncle of Queen Elizabeth, he was with her lover Wallis Simpson, when she was still married, second time, during the funeral of his own father King George IV.

They were not the only adulterous Kings of England that were also punished by God in some way, Edward IV had numerous mistresses and his blood died with him in the throne of England since his children never could arrive to it, also his Brother, Richard III, that usurpated the throne had some adulteries and well we know how horrible was his death in the battle of Bosworth.

Henry VIIIth Tudor was perhaps the most womanizer of all the British monarchs and also his dynasty ended just one generation after him when all his children died without any descendence: Edward VIth, Mary Ist and Elizabeth 1st.

en.wikipedia.org...

Is that just a coincidence? Think on that my friend.

There has been many good people that was horribly morally damaged and whose lives were seriously affected or even destroyed thanks to the chain of events that this passion of Charles for Camilla triggered:

Princess of Wales Diana Spencer, Her father the good Earl Viscount Althorp, Dodi Alfayed, Mr Muhammed Alfayed, William Duke of Cambridge, The Prince Harry, The Leutenant Andrew Parker-Bowles, his two children too.

Do you think a so selfish love based on the systematic hurt of other people can be blessed by God? what kind of God do you believe in ?

By the way, Queen Alexandra, the consort of King Edward VII it is said that when she was informed that he died she told the following words: Well, At last I know where he is this night!

Thanks for your comments,

The Angel of Lightness

It's a bit off topic, but has been mentioned. How is it that women don't create? We create all other living people, I'd say that's a pretty massive act of creation.

originally posted by: The angel of light
I know you are this time willing to be attorney of the devil,

You are the one following satan here, God is on the side of the Queen and Charles, fully supporting them.

a reply to: WilsonWilson

It's a bit off topic, but has been mentioned. How is it that women don't create? We create all other living people, I'd say that's a pretty massive act of creation.

Dante a Christian wrote .....

"Virgin mother, daughter of your Son,
Humbler and higher than all other creatures,
Fixed aim and goal of the eternal plan,

"You are the one who lifted human nature
5 To such nobility that its own Maker
Did not disdain to be made of its making.

"Within your womb was lit once more the flame
Of that love through whose warmth this flower opened
To its full bloom in everlasting peace.

10 "To us up here you are the torch of noon
Blazing with love, and for the mortals down there
You are the living fountain head of hope.

"Lady, you are so highly placed and helpful,
Whoever seeks grace and does not call on you
15 Wants his desires to fly up without wings.

"Your loving heart not only offers aid
To those who ask for it, but often times
Free-handedly anticipates the asking.

"In you is mercy, in you large heartedness,
20 In you compassion, and in you is found
Whatever good exists in any creature.

"Now this man who from down the deepest pit
Of the whole universe up to this point
Has seen the lives of spirits, one by one,

25 "Begs by your grace that you will give him strength
To enable him to rise on with his eyes
Still higher to the summit of salvation.

a reply to: hellobruce

The status of Queen or King is usually won or has historically been won by violent force by those who claim divine entitlement to rule.
It is historical ...
The rigmoral attached to investiture of a monarch is laughable and corrupt

Royalty is an illusion ... we are all equal in Reality

a reply to: WilsonWilson

Dear WilsonWilson,

Since it is clear that you don't have even the capacity to distinguish Good of evil and considering that you think that you are really acting well , according with your personal convictions, I forgive you such coward insult, than more to be against me is against what ever is decent and saint.

Nevertheless, be careful since the time is coming in which you are going to recall my words:

Charles Mountbatten will follow the same luck of the two other previous Kings with the same name in Britain History, if he insist to try to rule with his scandalous private life imposed over the will of God.

Only the Prayers of his mother will perhaps save his neck before everything turns out of control, if in that so difficult hour he would be able to see deeply in the bottom of his consciousness to realize that the only prudent decision he must take for the good of the nation, the dynasty and the Church is to abdicate.

Remember these words because Political power can buy the support of functionaries, but not the love of the People or the blessing of God.

www.thedailybeast.com...

Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light
Since it is clear that you don't have even the capacity to distinguish Good of evil

Said by someone following the devil....

Charles Mountbatten will follow the same luck of the two other previous Kings with the same name in Britain History, if he insist to try to rule with his scandalous private life imposed over the will of God.

It was the "will of god" that he married Camilla!

a reply to: hellobruce

Be careful, since to launch the kind of verbal attacks like this to somebody you even don't know could be a sad mistake, and to tell devil who is calling for the respect of the morality and Christian virtues is blasphemy.

You are risking so much your own soul trying to defend a man and a woman that clearly have followed along great part of their lives a path of sin and immorality. If you want to follow them to their final destination is your own decision, but England as nation will not perish or fall into the Abyss so easily. God is listening the prayers of many monks, priests and nuns that on the abbeys of the country, as well as the ones of good citizens asking for the divine intervention to stop the arrival of a corrupt ruler to the country.

The Spirits of St Jorge, St Patrick and King Arthur Pendragon will lead the fight of the British people against the Tyranny, and I can guaranty you that Charles Mountbatten will not succeed in his so selfish ambitions, and perverse plans to send Albion to be his court in hell! Possibly for him and this bad woman there is no salvation after all, but you are going to see that my words will be fulfilled.

Prince William will be the following great King of Britain, he will restore the respect for God commandments, repair the damages caused by the shadow of Adultery in the Throne, he will stop The apostasy that his father is promoting in the high hierarchy of the Church of England and erase all the iniquities he has committed.

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light
but England as nation will not perish or fall into the Abyss so easily. God is listening the prayers of many monks, priests and nuns that on the abbeys of the country, as well as the ones of good citizens asking for the divine intervention to stop the arrival of a corrupt ruler to the country.

Do not worry, divine intervention has come, Prince Charles will be the next King. God told me so.

Prince William will be the following great King of Britain,

Folowling King Charles, that is!

a reply to: hellobruce

Erm thats harry.
But I agree Charles will be king and I think he may just surprise us all.
Tough act to follow though dear liz.

a reply to: The angel of light

Hooray for the nuns and such......
You do know the uk is one of the least religious in the world?.
Best churches now are pubs.

a reply to: boymonkey74

You do know the uk is one of the least religious in the world?.
Best churches now are pubs.

Also some de commissioned churches have been converted into apartments and homes
The oldest church 1665 in my home city has been decommissioned and is used to hold art exhibitions

We have the most beautiful churches here ... the skill of the crafts people, masons, carpenters who built them is admirable.
The stain glass work breath taking ...

Yes what you said about Harry taking the throne is the peoples choice also ... His mother Dianne is surely the most popular royal ever ... such a shame she is not around today but that is another story

I slag the idea of royalty but also believe it is one of the hardest jobs ever ... so much indoctrination being placed upon the child who is born into such a family ... I am glad to be a peasant and not have my life ordered for me ... they however do not that freedom

a reply to: artistpoet

Well, it is not strange at all that the churches are not in their best time on these days, after all we are living under a collective mirage created by the spells of who is aspiring to be the next Queen.

Camila Parker-bowles is acting with the spirit of Morgana Le Fay inside, the so powerful pagan enchantress . That evil archetypical woman has come back again with all her dark witchery after many centuries from ultra tomb, since she wants again to give the great Battle for the Throne of England.

Morgana ( Camilla) is aware that Prince William is the chosen great King of Britain, who is reincarnating with the spirit of Arthur Pendragon that is returning from his long exile on Avalon, and she is sick of jealousy, she can't resist the temptation to destroy the possibility of a new Camelot.

Her husband, who is absolutely under the control of her perverse sorcery, Prince Charles, is acting with the spirit of King Uther inside, and he is coming also to rule Britain with the Three Great Enchantments he has shared with his friend the wizard Menw.

The evil wizard Menw on this time has reincarnated in the person of Mark W Boland, the Public relations executive who worked for the Advertising Standards Authority and the Press Complaints Commission before serving as Deputy Private Secretary to Charles, Prince of Wales from 1997 to 2002. This man, who is homosexual, was credited with rehabilitating the prince's public image and enhancing the public image of the relationship between Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles, still remain as one of the best friends and confidents of Prince Charles.

In this new Camelot of course can't be missing the spirit of Merlin, who has reincarnated in the person of Reverend Rowan Williams, the Ex-Archbishop of Canterbury who during years represent the most balanced, respectful with the traditional values and leading the most sensate trend in the Church of England, opposing drastic changes that the radical liberals want to obtain to destroy the authentic Christian values based on the Tradition.

Rowen Williams is going to perform a key role in the Institutional crisis that Charles Mountbatten will create when he will try ascend to the Throne. He will oppose the Apostasy in the Church and be a principal advocate of Prince William to arrive to the Throne through abdication of his Father. He will censor and control so crucial decisions in the synod of the Church advising and sometimes opposing the Archbishop Justin Welby.

Archbishop Welby will be along this incoming national drama in the eye of the hurricane in great part overwhelmed by the terrible challenge of to try to find a solution in the confrontation between Prince Charles and Prince William for the Crown, but also at times seduced by the schismatic reforms that Charles wants to boost in a Church that he would try to transform in a modern Druid cult, ending 1500 years of Christian faith in England.

He is the only figure in this new Camelot that will not be acting under a reincarnate spirit but will be under so much pressure and affronting terrible episodes of complete personal confusion. Nevertheless, on the worst moments of the monarchic succession crisis the Spirits of St Patrick, St Andrew and St George will come in dreams, yes, like in the Diken's Christmas Carol tale, to him to unveil the intentions of the other characters of this drama, and giving him strength to follow the fair path and reject the evilness.

Prince Harry has inside the spirit of Lancelot, who certainly will perform a very important role in future in supporting his brother , King William Arthur, against the terrible conspiracy arranged by the evil Morgana (Camilla).

Of course in the background of all these human affairs, we will feel all the time the protective role of the Spirit of the Queen mother Diana, who is the reincarnation of the lady of the lake Ninianne, the ruler of Avalon and who gave Excalibur to Arthur.

Finally, the role of Excalibur in modern times is acted by a kind of very personal and beloved object Prince William has that was given to him by his mother, and that he use to check every time he feels on trouble.

Thanks for your attention,

The Angel of Lightness

originally posted by: The angel of light
Prince William is the chosen great King of Britain,

Wrong again, Charles is next in line.

and he is coming also to rule Britain

True, Charles will be King.

snip the rest of your fairy tale, you really should stop listening to satan!

The chances of anyone being possessed by the spirit of a Dark Age Romano-British warlord who spent his time killing Angles and Saxons is, in my opinion, vanishingly small.
Charlie will be king after Brenda dies. And a bloody awful king he'll be as well - the man's a meddler and at some point whoever is PM will tell him, respectfully, to sit down and shut up.

a reply to: The angel of light

I know of all the Arthurian persons you speak of and find your post most interesting in that respect

For your interest if you are not aware of them

Here is a link to Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett ... Two Forensic Archeologists who have devoted over 30 years of research into researching the suppressed history of Britain.

Indeed it is fact that there were two King Arthurs (Welsh)

The history book taught in Welsh schools were removed and even the Welsh language itself was outlawed in Welsh schools and punishable if any child should speak it ... This occurred in Victorian times when all Welsh speaking teachers were replaced by English ones

The bloodline of Arthur is of the Holy Family bloodline

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