Michael Bublé' in hot water for Instagram post

Never mind her short shorts she seems to have nipples on her back as well!

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Never mind her short shorts she seems to have nipples on her back as well!

Think you need eye exam .. thats bra straps showing through her tshirt ...

I for one am not a fan of Michael Bublé', but I am a fan of a nice female posterior.

So I would like to say thank you Michael Bublé', for sharing with the world that picture.

originally posted by: Expat888

originally posted by: Whereismypassword
Never mind her short shorts she seems to have nipples on her back as well!

Think you need eye exam .. thats bra straps showing through her tshirt ...

Lol I knew that but come on the left one looks very realistic!

a reply to: Dark Ghost

I didn't look at the tweet, but I don't think there's anything wrong with what he did. At all. But you must remember some things...

1. WHATEVER you write for public consumption WILL be criticized. That's a fact. If you don't want criticism, then don't put it out there for the world to find fault with. Because they will. SOMEONE will be offended (haven't we learned this yet?). To suggest that HE is being punished or crucified is silly. He asked for it.

2. His mistake is in apologizing, IMO. He was not "forced" to apologize. He's not a victim here. He put it out there and he CHOSE to apologize. What this man needs is some balls. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. The more people apologize for offending others, the more those people think they have the right to be offended. Stop apologizing!

3. The very definition of a "free, civilized society" is one in which EVERYONE is free to say what they want, including his criticizers. They are as free to take offense as he is to put the pic out there in the first place. But "giving into" their drama is HIS fault and just perpetuates coddling those who are "offended".

4. Making him the victim is "politically correct" in its own way, so ragging on political correctness is just misguided.

when women wear articles
like the shorts in the pic.
I assume they want me to
look...

So I do

sometimes I even pay them
complements on their Assets

a reply to: Nyiah

She's got a beautiful butt, she was showing it off. I don't see the problem with his hashtags. It wasn't even the woman in the picture that complained, was it?

I'm glad he never technically apologized. Im a little bummed he was so polite about it though. The phrase "F off " should have been included.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

I didn't look at the tweet, but I don't think there's anything wrong with what he did. At all. But you must remember some things...

1. WHATEVER you write for public consumption WILL be criticized. That's a fact. If you don't want criticism, then don't put it out there for the world to find fault with. Because they will. SOMEONE will be offended (haven't we learned this yet?). To suggest that HE is being punished or crucified is silly. He asked for it.

Being flooded on social media with negative comments and being incorrectly branded a sexist and misogynist by the media is not punishment? Or is punishment in your eyes only when the government gets involved?

2. His mistake is in apologizing, IMO. He was not "forced" to apologize. He's not a victim here. He put it out there and he CHOSE to apologize. What this man needs is some balls. If you can't take it, don't dish it out. The more people apologize for offending others, the more those people think they have the right to be offended. Stop apologizing!

So if you made a light-hearted comment on social media and began receiving hate-mail, and your reputation in the media was being tarnished, you would stick to your guns and stand by your comments? I doubt that.

3. The very definition of a "free, civilized society" is one in which EVERYONE is free to say what they want, including his criticizers. They are as free to take offense as he is to put the pic out there in the first place. But "giving into" their drama is HIS fault and just perpetuates coddling those who are "offended".

Umm, you misinterpreted my post. The "free civilised society" thing was directed more at the idea of "thought crimes".

4. Making him the victim is "politically correct" in its own way, so ragging on political correctness is just misguided.

He's not THE victim. He is A victim of political correctness gone mad.

What you are tying to do is illustrate an ironic connection between people who ridicule political correctness and then act politically correct - except you fail to realise that such a connection does not exist since it is not politically correct to point out political correctness!

originally posted by: Dark Ghost

Being flooded on social media with negative comments and being incorrectly branded a sexist and misogynist by the media is not punishment? Or is punishment in your eyes only when the government gets involved?

But how is that any different than everyone saying that a woman who goes out in public wearing super short shorts deserves the negative or sexist comments she gets? If she deserved what she got for going out in public the way she did, then doesn't he deserve what he got by saying what he said to the public? You aren't advocating a double standard are you?

originally posted by: Dark Ghost
Being flooded on social media with negative comments and being incorrectly branded a sexist and misogynist by the media is not punishment? Or is punishment in your eyes only when the government gets involved?

OK. Technically, it is "punishment" because the intent is to discourage the behavior in the future, but my point is, he's not living in a hole. He knows the possible outcomes of saying something like that to the world. It's like a person with agoraphobia going to a live sporting event then claiming to be a "victim" of crowd noise. He ASKED for it.

"Sexist" is in the eye of the beholder. Of course someone is going to think it's sexist.

So if you made a light-hearted comment on social media and began receiving hate-mail, and your reputation in the media was being tarnished, you would stick to your guns and stand by your comments? I doubt that.

In his position, I would never have done what he did... I think it was pretty stupid. My point (again) is... If he hadn't been flooded with negative comments, he likely wouldn't have apologized. It reminds me of politicians these days who only apologize when they "get caught". It's not because he realized his error and felt remorseful. He apologized to his FANS, not to the woman.

He's not THE victim. He is A victim of political correctness gone mad.

And he FEEDS political correctness by apologizing and catering to those who were offended. It gives them more power. If you're going to put something out there, expect the backlash and take it like a man.

originally posted by: Dark Ghost

Why? Because the deeper issue behind stories like these needs to be discussed.

The deeper issue of course, is that while the number of these types of stories increases, there will eventually be a strong push for law reform in regards to posting anything that might be considered "offensive, sexist, misogynist" etc.. It's already happening with "racist rants" on public transport.

Who wants to live in a society that punishes you for thought crimes? After all, you cannot control all your thoughts and feelings and while it's true that you are not forced to post stuff that could be considered offensive, you should not have to walk on egg shells worrying that something you think or say could be deemed offensive by others. That is not the definition of a free, civilised society.

I agree with you completely. First thing I think is important is that feminism has its roots in the communist movement and a Marxist state is what they are ultimately after - and have been since the 60's.

Link - Feminism: Wrong From The Start

The movement that Friedan fomented was from its inception a radical, revolutionary movement of the anti-American Left, aimed at undermining the “domestic tranquility” of a nation which was at the time fighting what John F. Kennedy called a “long, twilight struggle” against Soviet imperialism. (Nikita Kruschev, 1956: “Whether you like it or not. history is on our side. We will bury you!”)

One need not engage in conspiracy-mongering to see how Friedan’s arguments in The Feminine Mystique served the anti-American cause. The widespread prosperity of post-war America was a key point in the propaganda battle with the Soviets. During the 1959 “Kitchen Debate” between Nixon and Kruschev, Nixon had pointed to labor-saving kitchen appliances — a dishwasher — and said, “In America, we like to make life easier for women,” to which Kruschev replied: “Your capitalistic attitude toward women does not occur under Communism.”

Well, whose side of that debate did Friedan take? What Nixon had cited as one of capitalism’s benefits for women (a modern kitchen, “like those of our houses in California,” he told Kruschev), Friedan re-imagined as “concentration camps” — presumably with women’s own husbands in the role of SS guards!

Whenever you see a feminist, you see a person who actively fights to turn America into a communist or a socialist country.. I have yet to meet a feminist who doesn't fight for government control of every tiny little aspect of your life..

I steer clear of feminists as much as possible, but find myself debating them regularly, every time political issues come up surrounding bigger government and more and more laws... its always the feminist camps wanting more laws, and less individual freedom..

As I said the other day on this site:

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: muse7

I used to be a democrat... that was how I began... then the democratic party moved left, and so did the republican party.. then I became republican...

now things have shifted so far to the left that I will now be voting Libertarian.. simply because I am not a communist or a socialist.

So.. I don't know what any of them represent anymore... outside of communist crazy ideals and constant war..

All we can do is die fighting them all... because what they are after has been tried elsewhere, to the detriment of every society it has been imposed upon.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

Ah! So, this whole thing is NOT Michael Buble's responsibility (as in personal responsibility) it's all the feminists' fault! Got it! LOL!

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

No.. what wrong did the man do..?

He didn't rape anyone... he didn't take the picture (his wife did) .. he did nothing but post a pic and basically say "nice ass" which he only said via the hashtags even..

so really.. what wrong is there?

I'm a woman, and I have no problem seeing the female body as the art and beauty that it is, with or without clothing.. (no problem with the art of men either.. but I suppose that is beside the point)

Now if I, as a woman, appreciate the beauty of another woman, then why on earth do we expect men, who are hormonally geared to notice and appreciate such things, not ever say "nice ass"...??

That is going well beyond the limits of ridiculousness at the point where a man saying "nice ass" is considered some moral crime..

When not even the man's wife is offended, then why the heck are you? Seriously...

You cannot legislate away human sexuality. It is a simple fact of life.

Women dress in order to either be, or feel, attractive. The root of the word attractive is attract. Women dress to either attract the opposite sex, or feel as if they can.. and what manner of dress depends upon the class of the one wearing the clothes...

Not everyone is a sexless prude, and the words "nice ass" (or nice whatever) don't cause harm to anyone..again, you cannot legislate human sexuality.. unless of course you are trying for Saudi Arabia in sexual reverse, or any other type of communist or dictatorial society that imposes itself upon people..

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
No.. what wrong did the man do..?

As far as I'm concerned, he didn't do anything WRONG. I don't think it was the smartest thing to do, but IMO, if a person wears short shorts in public, they're putting it on display.

He didn't rape anyone... he didn't take the picture (his wife did) .. he did nothing but post a pic and basically say "nice ass" which he only said via the hashtags even..

Some people are going to see what he did as sexist. You don't have to rape someone for it to be considered sexist. And not all feminists are going to find it sexist. I don't.

When not even the man's wife is offended, then why the heck are you? Seriously...

I'm NOT offended! Read my first post in this thread. www.abovetopsecret.com...

I just don't like the idea of blaming this on "feminists".

a reply to: OpinionatedB
Who said anything about legislating sexuality? Buble used his freedom of speech to talk about this woman behind her back, and his followers used their freedom of speech to respond to what he said. He wasn't arrested or put in jail. If you can't stand the heat of Twitter, then get out of the Twitter kitchen, or Instagram or wherever you choose to make public comments.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

but behind all this insanity, you always find the feminists.. always... and it will turn into legislation of what people can say online soon enough - because the goal is about laws laws laws and instigating marxism within the government..

this type of thing IS NOT the first time... but its about as fake an outrage as you can dream up..

Like the scientist who wore a shirt featuring half naked women in heavy metal artistic style - was modern, and cool in many ways, ultimately it was artistic.. the scientist by wearing it screamed, "science is modern and cool, not uptight and stuffy"

What's more, the shirt was designed by a woman... who designed it because it was cool, and gave it as a gift to her freind the scientist..

and because of all this false feminism, a WOMAN's artwork was condemned, and a man had to apologize for wearing something cool a lovely woman created.. reason.com...

and yes, I do believe this is about creating a socialist or communist society... see me in 5 or 10 years if I'm not correct in my assessment.. this sort of "outrage" will soon turn into more laws and more ways to fine people...

a reply to: kaylaluv

I just realized that some people think, "I feel this way, so everyone should feel this way." My position is that I don't find what Buble did as wrong or even sexist, and I think he AND the woman are responsible for their actions. NO ONE is a victim of anything! But I'm open-minded enough to know that not everyone feels the same way I do (nor should they).

Some people are going to be offended and find it sexist. That doesn't mean they're wrong! They just feel differently from me. Their feelings are valid. Just because they disagree with me, doesn't mean they're wrong or that this is a case of "political correctness gone wild". Disagreement is just disagreement. It's nothing to be upset about.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I agree, and I agree that he should have just ignored the comments. The people who complained would have forgotten about it in a week or so.

I stated that my personal opinion on it is: if you aren't willing to say something to someone's face, then you probably shouldn't say it behind their back to others. It has nothing to do with sexism or feminism or whether it was regarding a woman or man or child. But would I have felt strongly enough about it to complain to him? No way. I got more important things to complain about.

Am I the only one who thinks that what he did was incredibly disrespectful to his wife? If his wife were drooling publically over someone like that men would be upset too simply because it is rude. I see nothing wrong with appreciating a good looking person, but when you are in a relationship with someone you should conduct yourself in a more respectful manner for their sake because you love and care about them. Why would you intentionally have so little regard for your significant others feelings?

This isn't about sexism or misogyny, it is about disrespect. It would be one thing if he were a single man, but he is married, and what he did was inappropriate. People seem to have no respect for each other anymore, but then get upset when someone disrespects them. We clearly need higher standards to strive for if what he did is considered acceptable.