Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers

Argentina has begun legal proceedings against three British and two US companies for drilling oil near the Falkland Islands.

Mr Filmus told the BBC the companies were "performing illegal acts by entering Argentine territory".

He added: "I want to make it clear for the directors of these companies and for British public opinion that Argentina will use the full force of the law - both national and international law - to prevent these countries from taking the riches which belong to 40 million Argentine citizens.

Argentina launches lawsuit against Falkland oil drillers

Well, Argentina just keep bleating on don't they? They just cannot give it a break.

This is just crass politics as I very much doubt Argentina will get anywhere in the courts and no nation will want to pander to this type of silliness by extraditing company directors to face sham courts in Argentina.

We know the history, the Argentine aggression in 1982, and the recent referendum, so why can't Argentina just quieten down and try to get along with their neighbours? Are the Argentinian authorities so imbecilic that they cannot at least try to get on with the Falkland islanders? Could it be that this is an attempt to distract the Argentinian population from the crumbling economy?

Some useful links...

> Falklands Government response
> History of the Falklands
> Argentina rearming?
> UK upgrading Falklands defences
> Falklands Oil and Gas

Although they don't have a hope in hell of winning this, it is nice to see the legal approach taken first.

Hopefully, after the world courts laugh about this, your average Argentinian will see this scam for what it is...distraction for how poorly the government is currently running the country, and make some much needed adjustments.

The full force of the law is the only force they've got. Type 45 Destroyer, Typhoon, Tornado GR4, I know which force I would bet on.

a reply to: paraphi

Well, Argentina has been royally screwed by the two mentioned countries for many years. I believe it was Rockefeller who took over their primary export of Bat Guano, fired all of the locals and brought in American laborers further crushing them economically.

We endlessly buy up huge tracts of land there, spray insane amounts of pesticides, herbacides etc..so much so that is was common knowledge that various military and spooks got various chronic illnesses (not to mention the locals) like Parkinsons etc, because of said spraying.

I'm not sure I havemuch to say regarding the lawsuit other than it wouldn't surprise me if the countries/corporations involved in this were actually side drilling into Argentina's own oil and sticking it to these poor people once again in the name of profit.

originally posted by: hotel1
The full force of the law is the only force they've got. Type 45 Destroyer, Typhoon, Tornado GR4, I know which force I would bet on.

And some Trident missiles if they try anything stupid.

a reply to: paraphi

Well really, its just another spurious act by lawyers who have found yet another expensive way to fleece money out of people so they can considerably more money than they are actually worth.

And I do love the idea of concern about "British Public Opinion". Honestly Argentinian government/lawyers, do you think we actually give a sh.t?

Cos: if its about oil, I hate it and if its something legal giving parasitic lawyers yet another means of earning a legally challenging-or-do-you-mean financing their pockets action, I hate them even more. Funny I have yet to meet an honest solicitor or barrister where the law's concerned.

Will they win it? there's always a court full of people who want to earn their livings and will do everything they can to get this action into their facility..

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Traditionally rendered,

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Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

And now commonly rendered in alternate form:

When Britain fi-i-irst, at heaven's command,
Aro-o-o-o-ose from out the a-a-a-zure main,
Arose, arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter, the charter of the land,
And guardian a-a-angels sang this strain:

Rule Britannia!
Britannia rule the waves
Britons never, never, never will be slaves.
Rule Britannia!
Britannia rule the waves.
Britons never, never, never will be slaves.

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RA RA RA...

Amazing people still rally behind such a draconian concept such as a monarchy, I guess people really need to be slaves.

a reply to: paraphi

There is a big chance that source is biased. Isn't the UK elections coming in 3 weeks?

I searched online 2 important local newspapers in Argentina (El Clarin and La Nacion), and didn't find any information that match your source.

What I found is this instead :

Mr. Filmus didn''t talk about it yet and your source already posted such a claim?

Argentina's Secretary for Malvinas Islands Affairs, Daniel Filmus will be giving a conference on Friday in London on the Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute with the UK and the current round of oil drilling offshore the Islands, in what Argentina considers its territory.

....and reading this part :

According to Argentine sources, Filmus is expected to reply to recent statements by Defense Secretary Michael Fallon referred to the updating of the Falklands' defense capability since Argentina represents a 'live threat' to the people of the Islands, an argument rejected point blank by the Cristina Fernandez government.

....yep, that sucks.

One last segment, (as I said at the beginning) :

With the UK three weeks away from May 7 general election which has no clear winner the impact of the conference and the meeting with the media, will be hard to assess.

I really like our british ATS members and I know they are smarter than their government. They won't bite it.



en.mercopress.com...

a reply to: paraphi

Just to add support to my previous post :

British government using Falklands for election gains: Argentina

That's just the title folks, now read this part :

Britain's defense secretary told lawmakers on Tuesday that it would reinforce its military presence on the Falklands to ensure they were properly protected.

"They are provoking Argentina, hoping that the country reacts in order to strengthen nationalist feelings ... thinking that it will favor them in their election," Daniel Filmus, a top official in the Argentine Ministry of Foreign Affairs in charge of Falkland-related issues, said in an interview.

The secretary, Michael Fallon, had earlier told the BBC before addressing Parliament that Argentina's leftist government represented a "very live threat" to the islands, over which tensions still fizzle more than three decades after a brief war between the two countries.

www.reuters.com...

a reply to: Trueman

What part of the article is incorrect, considering the BBC is quoting an interview with Daniel Filmus?

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Trueman

What part of the article is incorrect, considering the BBC is quoting an interview with Daniel Filmus?

The BBC quote you mention needs to be confirmed and I couldn't find another source for that specific quote. I found some information from 2014 and 2013. Nothing from today or yesterday. Can you?

a reply to: Trueman

Surely its only recently that the public were told that there was not enough in the defence budget to defend the Falklands were another fracas to start up.

That also doesn't include the idea that without the USA expressing an interest in making war with Argentina, the UK is most unlikely to have any desire to fight there again, especially if its on behalf of oil companies. I suspect the idea of blatantly using British soldiers lives for the benefit of corporations to drill for oil, would likely sink any election hopes for the tories -

a reply to: bullcat

I wonder if there are any idiot who actually know that lot to sing it today? So against my religion.

a reply to: Trueman

Daniel Filmus' comments are now being widely reported and support the BBC article. There was a conference at Canning House in London.

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: bullcat

I wonder if there are any idiot who actually know that lot to sing it today? So against my religion.

It's our History, forgive us for having one.

And it doesn't necessarily mean we still think like we are a colonial power, or whether we were no better than Hitler back then, but that was what it was, our history, unchangable and pig ignorant to dismiss it and anyone learned in it as an idiot.

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Trueman

Daniel Filmus' comments are now being widely reported and support the BBC article. There was a conference at Canning House in London.

Can you provide us with links?

Oops this is interesting.

originally posted by: Boeing777

originally posted by: hotel1
The full force of the law is the only force they've got. Type 45 Destroyer, Typhoon, Tornado GR4, I know which force I would bet on.

And some Trident missiles if they try anything stupid.

Ra ra ra *pounds chest* ra ra.

Doesn't that ever get tiring?

originally posted by: Forensick

originally posted by: Shiloh7
a reply to: bullcat

I wonder if there are any idiot who actually know that lot to sing it today? So against my religion.

It's our History, forgive us for having one.

And it doesn't necessarily mean we still think like we are a colonial power, or whether we were no better than Hitler back then, but that was what it was, our history, unchangable and pig ignorant to dismiss it and anyone learned in it as an idiot.

You are still a colonial power.

originally posted by: bullcat

originally posted by: Boeing777

originally posted by: hotel1
The full force of the law is the only force they've got. Type 45 Destroyer, Typhoon, Tornado GR4, I know which force I would bet on.

And some Trident missiles if they try anything stupid.

Ra ra ra *pounds chest* ra ra.

Doesn't that ever get tiring?

Excuse me, we would never pound our chests, we would instead clap politely. Chest pounding sounds like the sort of vulgar behaviour a colonial would indulge in.