Extraterrestrial Contact Protocol

Hey Folks,
Ever since I watched "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" I was intrigued about how the organization (type unknown) went about how to communicate with the extraterrestrials.

So I thought with all the talent from the Above Top Secret membership we could work together, seriously, to establish a world extraterrestrial contact protocol. For those of you who want to make this a serious piece of work, I would ask you to join me to establish an outline of critical criteria to start as a bases. Then the next step add meat to each of the criteria. I suggest the mind set you have going into this is to think of this in terms of we have been ask by a world governing body to establish this criteria. And that we have the official burden to create this protocol to represent the entire world population for the good of mankind and be responsible citizens of the universe.

Without further ado let me start out with a straw man to start the list of criteria:

World Governing Organization responsible for extraterrestrial interaction.
Membership representation from religion, decease control, psychology, education, medicine, military, government leaders, etc..
Methods of attempting communication with extraterrestrials: music, sound, colors, numbers, symbols, etc..
World communication protocol between countries.

Let's have some serious fun. What say you!?

a reply to: bucsarg
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originally posted by: bucsarg
Hey Folks,
Ever since I watched "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" I was intrigued about how the organization (type unknown) went about how to communicate with the extraterrestrials.

So I thought with all the talent from the Above Top Secret membership we could work together, seriously, to establish a world extraterrestrial contact protocol. For those of you who want to make this a serious piece of work, I would ask you to join me to establish an outline of critical criteria to start as a bases. Then the next step add meat to each of the criteria. I suggest the mind set you have going into this is to think of this in terms of we have been ask by a world governing body to establish this criteria. And that we have the official burden to create this protocol to represent the entire world population for the good of mankind and be responsible citizens of the universe.

Without further ado let me start out with a straw man to start the list of criteria:

World Governing Organization responsible for extraterrestrial interaction.
Membership representation from religion, decease control, psychology, education, medicine, military, government leaders, etc..
Methods of attempting communication with extraterrestrials: music, sound, colors, numbers, symbols, etc..
World communication protocol between countries.

Let's have some serious fun. What say you!?

It's already been done:

See: Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities
Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence


"An international agreement concerning the detection of extraterrestrial intelligence"

And: "Protocols for an ETI Signal Detection - Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence"

I'll just offer them coffee and homemade cinnamon rolls if they stop by. No talking necessary.

a reply to: bucsarg

Youre assuming we would have control of that situation. Im proposing thats highly unlikely.

They would advancedly control the "HELLOS" with "Be still. We will speak...and you shall listen".

I think the whole protocol idea is theirs.

The first link shows nothing.
The second and third links are not what I'm suggesting we do. Thank you anyway.
a reply to: JadeStar

originally posted by: bucsarg
Hey Folks,
Ever since I watched "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" ...

For those of you who are not interested in this project it will be appreciated you not reply. Thanks
reply to: bucsarg

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: bucsarg
Hey Folks,
Ever since I watched "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" ...

Always loved that movie.

Could you break down the picture for me please?

a reply to: bucsarg

Are you serious?

Even if you were able to "establish a world extraterrestrial contact protocol." Do you think 'they' are going to contact members of ATS? I ask because most members remain anonymous.

The purpose of this experiment is....?

originally posted by: ThinkingCap


Always loved that movie.

Could you break down the picture for me please?

I just put some stuff together from the internet into one picture. Actually, I was about the update the image I had posted, but you responded before I could.

Here is the updated image I was going to post:

No,no It's a sheer impossibility and would not work. First the down sides.
1. The jumped up organisation that calls itself the "united nations" are nothing of the sort. They are playing at politics and couldn't agree which door to leave by.
2. ALL the "big" governments want to be the "ONE" to interact with the aliens and would argue and fight to be "the one".
3. The same goes for the religions.
Those reasons above might be the reason that any aliens have not already made contact with any government, ie. if they chose one government that would exclude the rest and the rest wouldn't like it.
I think the only way is for aliens to contact singular people and work through them to find the easiest and most influential individuals to communicate on their behalf. I have already posited this idea before and believe that aliens could have been breeding half breeds for this purpose, ie. humans would have more empathy with a part human than with a full alien.
But in answer to your post the worlds governments and religions are poles apart to agree on any one or small group to speak on their behalf. Sorry if I have upset your post.

I'm not trying to derail your post. I am serious about what I am about to say. The idea presupposes the need for a "world governing body" to be involved, though I'm sure all governments would do what they could to include themselves and exclude everyone else. But take the cue from the movie you cited, Close Encounters. Interestimng that you used that movie in particular.

There was indeed a protocol set up there in that the ETs contacted anyone who would listen and a "Meet & Greet" was planned and executed. But even in this case ET wasn't playing by the rules and, indeed, hadn't been for years (given the prior instances of abductions). Instead they took an individual they had personally contacted prior, let all the old guys go, and took off, leaving the government officials in their suits and ties to watch them as they left. Other than arranging for this exchange, ET did not engage government, and certainly did not engage a worldwide governing authority.

Now the movie ends there and what happened next is pure speculation, but the basic idea here is that contact is a PERSONAL issue, not one involving all the world's people and some sort of agreement on who should meet ET. They did not meet with scientists, theologians, psychologists, and high-placed government officials. They met with an electrician with no particular education. And prior to that they met with a little boy, a few pilots, and a cross-section of humanity that had nothing to do with world wide governing bodies at all.

That was essentially THE MESSAGE and point of that movie. It's not about "protocols." It's about individual experiences trumping organizational reactions. So do all the brainstorming and planning you want, but it's completely irrelevant if ET isn't interested.

originally posted by: bucsarg
The first link shows nothing.

Sorry about that. Here it is (as revised in 2010): Declaration of Principles Concerning Activities Following the Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence

The second and third links are not what I'm suggesting we do. Thank you anyway.

I guess the point is that there are protocols which have been agreed upon, ratified and in place for extraterrestrial contact.

But of course you're free to brainstorm other stuff. At the end of the day, none of it matters other than being a thought exercise.

Found your reply interesting. Thank you. My reply back to you is what if ET is interested in us? Might be a good idea to have something in place. If anything it might help us to control world calamity schuyler

originally posted by: schuylerThey did not meet with scientists, theologians, psychologists, and high-placed government officials. They met with an electrician with no particular education. And prior to that they met with a little boy, a few pilots, and a cross-section of humanity that had nothing to do with world wide governing bodies at all.

That was essentially THE MESSAGE and point of that movie. It's not about "protocols." It's about individual experiences trumping organizational reactions. So do all the brainstorming and planning you want, but it's completely irrelevant if ET isn't interested.

So who were the people in the red jumpsuits who went away at the end of the movie?

Personally, I find the idea laughable than an advanced species would simply contact people who were not even qualified to understand where they came from much less knew anything about the galaxy we share.

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: schuylerThey did not meet with scientists, theologians, psychologists, and high-placed government officials. They met with an electrician with no particular education. And prior to that they met with a little boy, a few pilots, and a cross-section of humanity that had nothing to do with world wide governing bodies at all.

That was essentially THE MESSAGE and point of that movie. It's not about "protocols." It's about individual experiences trumping organizational reactions. So do all the brainstorming and planning you want, but it's completely irrelevant if ET isn't interested.

So who were the people in the red jumpsuits who went away at the end of the movie?

Personally, I find the idea laughable than an advanced species would simply contact people who were not even qualified to understand where they came from much less knew anything about the galaxy we share.

You are mis-remembering. The guys in red suits were all lined up, and ET picked the electrician out of the line-up. The other guys, whom you presume to have been scientists, did not go with him. He went on board alone and the ship took off. It's rather presumptuous to assume ET would only be interested in people we deem "qualified." THAT'S what I am saying the movie is about. ET is not interested in some protocols nor anyone some world governing body deem appropriate to meet with them.

My point stands. It's a personal issue.

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: JadeStar

originally posted by: schuylerThey did not meet with scientists, theologians, psychologists, and high-placed government officials. They met with an electrician with no particular education. And prior to that they met with a little boy, a few pilots, and a cross-section of humanity that had nothing to do with world wide governing bodies at all.

That was essentially THE MESSAGE and point of that movie. It's not about "protocols." It's about individual experiences trumping organizational reactions. So do all the brainstorming and planning you want, but it's completely irrelevant if ET isn't interested.

So who were the people in the red jumpsuits who went away at the end of the movie?

Personally, I find the idea laughable than an advanced species would simply contact people who were not even qualified to understand where they came from much less knew anything about the galaxy we share.

You are mis-remembering. The guys in red suits were all lined up, and ET picked the electrician out of the line-up. The other guys, whom you presume to have been scientists, did not go with him.

My point stands. It's a personal issue.

Actually they did go with them if you look closely in the background in the final scene aboard the mothership:

a reply to: JadeStar

Maybe they had something else beyond scientific and academic "qualifications".
Those kinds of things may have no meaning at all to a truly advanced species. Humans probably wouldn't be able to understand it anyway. Your degree would likely mean tripe to them. Remember how the scientists means of communicating with them was rendered as childs play? The sense I had of the movie was that it was much more about a communion than anything scientific.