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originally posted by: intrepid
'Muricans? Yeah, like Americans are the only ones to resort to violence. Pfft. The same would have happened in Canada(many other countries would probably said the same). Humans don't often have any sympathy for a bully.
Wetiko/malignant egophrenia is a disease of civilization, or lack thereof.
To quote Forbes,
"To a considerable degree, the development of the wetiko disease corresponds to the rise of what Europeans choose to call civilization. This is no mere coincidence." [vi]
The unsustainable nature of industrial civilization is based on, and increasingly requires violence to maintain itself. Genuine "civilization," in essence, means not killing people.
Referring to the lack of "civility" in modern society, Gandhi was asked what he thought of Western civilization and responded by saying,
"I think it would be a good idea."
It makes sense that native people would know about malignant egophrenia, as they were both oppressed by, but weren't, at least initially, under the "curse" of modern civilization.
Being under the sway of modern civilization can feel like something foreign to our nature is being imposed upon us, as if we are living in an occupied land.
Modern civilization suffers from the overly one-sided dominance of the rational, intellectual mind, a one-sidedness that seemingly dis-connects us from nature, from empathy, and from ourselves. Due to its disassociation from the whole, wetiko is a disturber of the peace of humanity and the natural world, a sickness which spawns aggression and is capable of inciting violence amongst living beings. The wetiko virus is the root cause of the inhumanity in human nature, or shall we say, our seemingly inhuman nature.
This "psychic virus," a "bug" in "the system," in-forms and animates the madness of so-called civilization, which, in a self-perpetuating feedback loop feeds the madness within ourselves.
Forbes continues,
"this disease, this wetiko (cannibal) psychosis, is the greatest epidemic sickness known to man." [vii]
We, as a species, are in the midst of a massive psychic epidemic, a virulent collective psychosis that has been brewing in the cauldron of humanity's psyche from the beginning of time.
Like a fractal, wetiko operates on multiple dimensions simultaneously - intra-personally (within individuals), inter-personally (between ourselves), as well as collectively (as a species).
"Cannibalism," in Forbes's words, "is the consuming of another's life for one's own private purpose or profit." [viii]
Those afflicted with wetiko, like a cannibal, consume the life-force of others - human and nonhuman - for private purpose or profit, and do so without giving back something from their own lives.
One example that symbolizes our self-destructive, collective madness is the oil companies' destruction of the Amazonian rainforest, the lungs of our planet. This is literally a full-bodied revelation showing us what we are doing to ourselves.
Another literal example that is symbolically illustrating the wetiko complex in action is Monsanto genetically engineering terminator seeds that do not reproduce a second generation, thus forcing farmers to buy new seeds from Monsanto for each year's new crop.
This makes survival for many poor farmers impossible, which has triggered a wave of suicides among farmers, as Monsanto grows richer from the process.
Forbes writes,
"The overriding characteristic of the wetiko is that he consumes other human beings, that is, he is a predator and a cannibal. This is the central essence of the disease." [ix]
Predators, "full-blown" wetikos are not in touch with their own humanity, and therefore can't see the humanity in others.
Instead, they relate to others either as potential prey or as a threat to their dominance. As if a different breed who is more animal-like predator than ordinary human being, someone fully taken over by the wetiko psychosis consumes others' lives, physically, emotionally, psychically and meta-physically, beyond just the material body and physical possessions to the level of meaning itself.
Wetikos are the "anti-artists" of our culture, embodying the opposite of what creative artists do. Unlike an artist (see "The Artist as Healer of the World"), who creates life-enhancing meaning and enriches the world without robbing others, a wetiko takes and consumes without giving anything back, continually draining and impoverishing the planet of resources.
We are currently in the midst of "the greatest epidemic sickness known to man" (see "Diagnosis: Psychic Epidemic").
originally posted by: AdamuBureido
originally posted by: poncho1982
originally posted by: AdamuBureido
a reply to: Onslaught2996
'muricans
all violent animals, including the old man with his crowbar.
funny how the busybodies preaching "let the police handle it" were quite quick to resort to violence themselves
and to those who think this is justice, it's obvious you wouldn't know what justice is
if it kicked you in the behind...
From every "murican" who stands up for the less able, I would love to throw a stream of obscenities at you right now.
ALL of us huh? Generalize much? You're as bad as a racist who thinks ALL black people are a certain way.
If you had rolled on by and done nothing, you are just as big of a POS as the guy in the Solara.
Ridiculous. Where are the mods to delete that comment?
I've seen posts get deleted for less.
thanks for proving my point!
MR PEACENIK!
straight out the gate with the violence and threats...[shakes head]
helllloooo? neither you or that pair of hooligans KNOW THE WHOLE BACKSTORY, too concerned with your own righteousness, no doubt,and ASSumptions. JUSTICE would have demanded TO KNOW BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY BEFORE ACTING.
but hey, you know better, lets just hope the next time you stumble on somebody getting a beat down, and decide to play "hero of justice" you're not defending a :
RAPIST
CHILD MOLESTER caught with their hands in some kids underoos
or win the DARWIN PRIZE when the SERIAL-KILLER, you've saved, thanks you by making YOU HIS NEXT VICTIM!
engage brain 1st buddy, so you don't get judged as a dumbass, on a forum,
or wind up in jail or the morgue in real life...
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: AdamuBureido
When you get along to ACTUALLY resorting to discussing the topic and not the person I'd be glad to participate. If you're just going tot diss the membership......whatever. It doesn't blow my skirt up.
originally posted by: poncho1982
I reported his post. That's just a bunch of BS him doing that.
Anger issues, severe anger issues.
originally posted by: rockpaperhammock
honestly all i saw was a whole lot of stupid....and this thread made it the front page....
originally posted by: rockpaperhammock
a reply to: AdamuBureido
well its just kind of a trend on ats....idk i just feel like this site is becoming crap....its a video of an asshole attacking an old man and then two other men properly stopping it then attacking the other guy.....and a section of people cheering it on....and then it makes the front page because of its flag count. There is no deep thought in this...its just dumb asses...but people love it...they love the fighting...love to see someone get their ass beat so much that it received 35 flags.
This is the kind of thread to make it to the top...yes that bothers me. Of the countless deep thinking thoughtful threads we have had ....this one makes to the top. Its also the same reason why this site isn't what it used to be. Not sure why you would feel insulted that I don't like that a stupid video makes it to the front page while countless other threads are passed over.
originally posted by: rockpaperhammock
a reply to: AdamuBureido
I apologize if it seemed bad...im just frustrated with ats and not any one person. I think a lot of it is that I am getting older and younger people are moving in with different interests. Some of the veteran members around here who were great thread writers have left or just slowed down. Cheers mate.
and on topic: nice one punch I guess haha
and regarding the thread subject and my point.
the same behaviors exibited here on the thread and video are exactly the ones that lead millions to be duped into wars or shoving people into concentration/fema camps...