Radioactive Water From Fukushima Is Systematically Poisoning The Entire Pacific Ocean

a reply to: lostgirl

"most of the damage detailed in the article isn't even from Fukushima..."


Like I said before, Fukushima isn't big enough to kill the ocean by itself.. Mankind has been polluting the oceans for centuries...someday it will come home to roost.

All I am saying is that Fukushima, by itself, is not nor ever will be big enough to "kill" the Pacific Ocean..... more likely the hundreds of thousand of tons of plastic and other garbage will do the job quite nicely.

Since 3-11-11, people have been blaming every mass die off on Fukushima.... they tend to conveniently forget that there were mass die offs long before Fukushima.... but now all of a sudden....must be Fukushima... even though there have been mass die off for decades.... oh my gosh.... run for the hills... Fukushima doom porn is upon us.

a reply to: RickinVa

Yes, I understand your point -

- except you said the ocean is "a long ways from being dead", which is patently 'not' true...

...and the fact is, the 'poison' spewing from Fukushima is continually increasing and is actively contributing to the 'brokenness' of the Pacific Ocean - pushing it closer and closer to "being dead"...


To use the term "doom porn" here is to imply that here is no need to worry about the Pacific Ocean, which is also "patently 'not' true"...

a reply to: RickinVa

The truth is that you don't have any idea how much damage is being done, nobody does. What if it kills a 1/4 of the Pacific Ocean, or maybe 3/8? Would that be less of a disaster? How the hell does assuming that it won't kill the entire Pacific ocean make the situation any better, it's not good for it period, on top of everything else that is polluting it.

I wonder how long it will be before no more Tuna can even be consumed at all because it kills you a few hours after ingesting it. Bags of contaminated soil sitting near the shore, complete insanity. All their storage tanks are full, some leaking as well. This is getting worse every single day, and that is what you're not comprehending. ~$heopleNation

I am in no way an expert, but I have read some amazing work from an American Micologist and his peers about fungi being able to decontaminate toxic soils and to a degree that by all accounts is unrivalled.

Check out his seminar and what he and his team have discovered about fungi!

I was amazed and think maybe their efforts might just help save us all from ourselves.

Humans had no brain and thrived, they grew half a brain and became dangerous!

Check the video out ATS!

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a reply to: SheopleNation

It doesn't matter how much damage Fukushima has done or will do in the future for one simple undeniable fact:

It is unstoppable. There is no technology in current existence that will allow the mitigation of Fukushima... what you see now, have seen for the last 4 years is as good as it will ever get and is what you are going to see for the next several thousands of years.

Look at the bright side, in 300 years or so, the Cesium 137 and Strontium 90 will have decayed into harmless matter, leaving you with those pesky long lived buggers like plutonium.

Fukushima is what it is, it will never get better unless some alien technology decides to help us out with our little problem.

Look for Fukushima to be abandoned by Tepco shortly after the 2020 Olympics are over. It's almost a sure bet at this point.

Hey folks I think this is my second post and while I've read ats for a few years, I haven't started a thread and haven't figured it out yet. Sorry
But I wanted to post this personal experience from New Mexico about fukushima and hope it kindly gets moved to the right place. I think the reason is important enough.

Ok, so my brother the used-to-be nuke mp, is at the store and talking to some people he saw in a California van. He was hoping to get something first hand from a person about the conditions out in cali.

He says something about radiation and the fellow says "Oh no, we just rented it in texas" somewhere near the airport in El paso.
Another fellow there looking like a prospector pops out a Geiger counter. The cars on each side of the cali van had no reading.
The van from California, rented in texas, gave off radiation. I don't know the reading, but the noise was good.

The other fellow in the California van comes out of the store and his friend says they are driving an irradiated van. He then asks Mr prospector to do the geiger again to show hos friend and again, no other cars around hot, but the california van is hot to some degree...

The 2 fellows in the California van are going back to the airport to get another vehicle, getting radiated the whole way.....
Just happened yesterday

I know we all need rad and contam meters now, but I just thought people should check the origens of vehicles they rent for now. It looks like there will be no precautions and no disclosure about spreading toxic waste everywhere.
Soon, because people will be onto this, they will just come our with a "US" license plate or ok changing plates so people don't know and all we will have is our meters.

I also wondered if this happened to anyone else and I apologize for jumping on the end of this thread - I will endevour to figure out creating my own with this phone.

originally posted by: curenado
Hey folks I think this is my second post and while I've read ats for a few years, I haven't started a thread and haven't figured it out yet. Sorry
But I wanted to post this personal experience from New Mexico about fukushima and hope it kindly gets moved to the right place. I think the reason is important enough.

Ok, so my brother the used-to-be nuke mp, is at the store and talking to some people he saw in a California van. He was hoping to get something first hand from a person about the conditions out in cali.

He says something about radiation and the fellow says "Oh no, we just rented it in texas" somewhere near the airport in El paso.
Another fellow there looking like a prospector pops out a Geiger counter. The cars on each side of the cali van had no reading.
The van from California, rented in texas, gave off radiation. I don't know the reading, but the noise was good.

The other fellow in the California van comes out of the store and his friend says they are driving an irradiated van. He then asks Mr prospector to do the geiger again to show hos friend and again, no other cars around hot, but the california van is hot to some degree...

The 2 fellows in the California van are going back to the airport to get another vehicle, getting radiated the whole way.....
Just happened yesterday

I know we all need rad and contam meters now, but I just thought people should check the origens of vehicles they rent for now. It looks like there will be no precautions and no disclosure about spreading toxic waste everywhere.
Soon, because people will be onto this, they will just come our with a "US" license plate or ok changing plates so people don't know and all we will have is our meters.

I also wondered if this happened to anyone else and I apologize for jumping on the end of this thread - I will endevour to figure out creating my own with this phone.

I am concerned about the amount of produce from California that gets shipped all over the country, especially in winter. If a van is irradiated, you have to wonder what happens to an orange or an avacado that sits outside for weeks on end with the rain coming off the pacific ocean (not much as of late admittedly) watering it.

This is ridiculous.

Fukushima is not that big of a threat.

The entire time every single person in here has been going to the beach you have been ingesting small amounts of natural Uranium, the Oceans have honestly always been a source of exposure, small amounts of Plutonium people were exposed to (way higher than anything happening across the Pacific btw) showed no evidence of Cancer causation at Los Almos.

Further every time this is posted I get into detailed explanations of "Biological Half Lives" and no body listens, people talk about "Vapors" guess what anything atmospheric is mostly Iodine which is gone in weeks Biologically and a couple of Months globally likewise a big deal is made about the bone seeking particulates which in exposure amounts is incredibly light but being heavier we can expect most of the stuff to hit the ocean floor where in all reality will be absorbed by extremophilles that can eat this stuff for breakfast.

Look...

Over time given some ups and downs we can expect the amount being released to lessen over time the truth is the highest volumes have been reached the actual half lives on the worst of this stuff in any actual amounts that matter is around 30 years with the biological half lives being much less to the 90th percentile... your going to reach a maximum amount in the Ocean given the rate of loss vs half life in short order here, in fact given the release amounts vs what is flowing out (which will decline over time via efforts) the most Strontium in the sea has been reached, the filter system is a work in progress but they will stop most of the Strontium release over the next few years.

You also have to take into account that just because a few particles on the west coast per hundred Gallons might be there it doesn't mean it's like a Smart Bomb heading for your bones lol, the reality is most of anything ingested passes right out your butt, you could jump in the ocean swallow a few mouthfuls and get nothing at all.

I'm trying to explain (it's difficult) even in regards to the worst thing there is.... The Strontium it wont even last in your body for a lifetime, ingestion from the water would be minimal, amounts that likely will never matter, the point of Saturation maximum has been reached and likely will never be breached again and we are basically okay, Cesium passes your body like a salt, the filtration systems are complex but they will work and vastly reduce this stuff...

The only thing out there that wont be ground to next to nothing amounts is Tritium

Tritium has a Biological half life of 12 days lol, in any consumable amount you could go in the ocean off California for an hr daily and not get exposed to as much radiation as you would in a single airline flight or xray in 100 years or more...

Hiroshima put more Cessium into the environment than Fukushima will in a decade.

The Strontium will be 97-99% filtered out over the next few years

I'm not saying this isn't a negative situation, they shouldn't work harder at at moving faster here, or it's not a disaster....

But your going to be fine, sea life is affected in places and via bad luck and ocean currents but the worst is over, we likely wont even loose any species as a result, not even close.

You guys have sooooooooo much worse happening to you environmentally... This doesn't even register as a risk, i'd be activist on Monsanto as a start, things we CAN do something about, microbeads are killing 100x the amount of sealife as Fukushima, chemicals are vastly more saturated in your immediate environment, your concerned about a single particle per zillion that is radioactive while every Burrito you eat the receipt hits you with BPA and the Burrito with Roundup...

a reply to: criticalhit

I agree with you that food additives are a concern as well as chemicals in the environment, but Fukushima is a serious threat. Overall levels may be considered small, but you are not taking into account the effect of bio multiplication in the food chain. You need to watch this. Dr Helen Caldicott is one of the world's foremost experts on radiation from nuclear accidents. It is NOT being blown out of proportion.