In Defense of Chemtrail Conspiracy Theorists: Part 9. Not a "Delusion"

Great post full of logic and reason. I don't like being poisoned. Poisoning, the act of a true coward.

a reply to: enament

Wow you are getting attacked by trolls so bad, very sad when people are trying to derail a good topic. I would report it to a moderator. A lot of off topic remarks.

Trust me this forum is watched pretty well as the discussion can get a bit heated, as for a good topic being good...could you elaborate on what makes this topic so good and why is it those who don't agree with the OP are trolls?

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: Petros312

Every time this topic is brought up people come out of nowhere to derail the threads with nonsense and trolling, it is so frustrating. You spelled this wrong or your paragraphs aren't done right etc.

I believe a lot of people who call others delusional are the ones who are truly delusional especially when no mater what you say or what evidence you have, they dismiss your opinion, being dismissive is so counter constructive to exposing very real crimes.

I have personally witnessed what I believe to be weather modification several times and with others who were skeptical and after seeing what I have seen now are believers. I have seen airplanes fly in formation and in grid patterns on a clear day with absolutely no clouds whatsoever and watch the trails fan out until the sky goes silver white in 3-4 hours many times. People who have witnessed it with me get mad, and actually get depressed that such a thing is happening. Hard to deny what you have witnessed first hand. Its human nature not to look up and when they do it can be very surprising.

If you don't want people who question your firmly held beliefs to respond, stick to the sites where they ban anyone who asks critical questions, such as:

www.facebook.com...

www.facebook.com...

globalskywatch.com...


You'll feel right at home

a reply to: payt69

ou don't want people who question your firmly held beliefs to respond, stick to the sites where they ban anyone who asks critical questions, such as:

Missed one...

www.geoengineeringwatch.org...

I know you won't answer this petros. ..but you are 100% wrong.

We call you guys delusional because:

-The logistics of chemtrails make it IMPOSSIBLE to keep quite for 20 years

-planes could never in a million years hold anywhere near enough chems to leave lines that long in the sky.

-you guys understand NOTHING of aviation and meteorology. If you did you would quickly realise how foolish you are.

-the people who sell chemtrails have more than enough money or at least the means of getting it, to go up and test many trails and settle this once and for all. They won't.

-you keep listing websites that still use the debunked images of the kc10 or the ballast tanks or the fabricated images...why? Why on earth would you use known liars to bolster your arguments? That is insane and very stupid. Where is the anger directed at them for lying and muddying your waters..


This is so silly. You guys are a TINY handful of people who believe this nonsense. The rest of us..The 99.999% are just shaking our heads at your delusion. Yep..i said it . Delusion.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Isn't that a satire site? The stuff they post can't be serious.

originally posted by: bitsforbytes
The truth, there is geo engineering going on and it is very real. Is it dangerous, maybe. But it is going on and planes and unknown substances are used. They can say what ever they want about what they use, how can I know really? Oh and so was Fukushima, Chernobyl, DDT ( or round up), led paint, mercury, PCBs declared safe and controlled by responsible humans who are not here for profit and want the best for humanity.

PESTICIDES!

They have sprayed agents on the general population in the past. If you want a source google it yourself.

Also, contrails persist in the skies and create fake clouds which impacts the sun rays or better yet the amount of sun rays that reach us. This is observable and cannot be denied. Call them chem or con, it doesn't matter they are there and saying that they don't do any damage is ignoring the growing amount of planes in the sky criss crossing each others trails, stretching a veil across the sky right in your faces.

PESTICIDES!

Chernobyl...human error.
Lead paint....human ignorance and removed as soon as we learnt more.
Mercury....Same. Mercury is fairly safe if not exposed to it too often. I have handled and touched mercury my whole life. I'm 40 and fine.

Man makes mistakes. That's how we learn. People are living longer and healthier than ever...so whats the problem ?

originally posted by: stayinglowkey
Great post full of logic and reason. I don't like being poisoned. Poisoning, the act of a true coward.

So you guy believe that you and your lived ones, your little kids, your little innocent babies are being poisoned and all you guys do is bitch about it on an Internet forum.

How can you live with yourselves? How can you not do anything when you see your kids breathing this "poison"...shocking behaviour.IMO

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Isn't that a satire site? The stuff they post can't be serious.

Well it has made me laugh a many of times so you could be right, although chemtrail conspiracy theorists consider it to be gospel.

Which just shows how big a joke the whole topic is.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I just think its sad to see a topic dgenerate to the point a person is being attacked for their opinions to the point where it becomes sickening to read.

Its a good topic because its a real problem now a days, there is a real fight for control of people's thoughts. People bastardize people and ridicule people and dismiss their ideas in a way they are belittled and made to feel dumb for thinking different.

If people are worried about mythical "chemtrails", then why don't they just remove them (it also kills grass!)

a reply to: hellobruce

OK today they have the technology to eliminate all jet trails why don't they do it? They have had the technology for quite sometime. When I was a little kid about 30 years ago I asked my dad ( he was in the Navy ), Why do some planes leave a trail and some don't . My dads response was military planes don't leave trails. When I was that age jet trails dissipated in a very short period of time as I recall. I laid on my back and watched jets quite a bit as a kid.

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: hellobruce

OK today they have the technology to eliminate all jet trails why don't they do it?

What makes you think that?

Why do some planes leave a trail and some don't . My dads response was military planes don't leave trails.

Your dad was wrong....
F-16 Contrails


F-15 contrails


B-52 contrails


B-17 contrails


etc etc.

When I was that age jet trails dissipated in a very short period of time as I recall.

Some still do that, it depends on the weather.

a reply to: hellobruce

Have you ever witnessed a military plane shut off its contrail? I have numerous times. Aparently I have to be more specific. Not all military planes are equipped to turn off their contrails. I'm speaking of large jet planes. I would also exclude prop planes from this discussion entirely.

a reply to: enament

Also this discussion is really meant to be about why people are dismissive of others opinions and not the actual chemtrails themselves and that those who belive such things are delusional.

originally posted by: enament
a reply to: hellobruce

Have you ever witnessed a military plane shut off its contrail? I have numerous times.

All you saw was a contrail stopping and starting due to weather conditions - it happens to all aircraft.

Not all military planes are equipped to turn off their contrails.

yes they are - stop the engines, contrail stops!

I'm speaking of large jet planes.

Like the civilian airliner I showed.... contrails are seen due to weather, which is not constant.

I would also exclude prop planes from this discussion entirely.

Why? They also produce contrails....

a reply to: enament

Also this discussion is really meant to be about why people are dismissive of others opinions and not the actual chemtrails themselves and that those who belive such things are delusional.

Because opinions tend to be worthless for the purpose of determining the validity of a claim. Remember you're talking about something for which there is no real evidence. To date, all 'evidence' for "chemtrails" has been shown to be at best incorrect, and in many cases outright prevarication.

IMO, "chemtrails" are fantasy. Will you be dismissive of that opinion?

What do you find compelling in the vid you posted? I CAN"T wade through 17 minutes of excrement from that guy.

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
What do you find compelling in the vid you posted? I CAN"T wade through 17 minutes of excrement from that guy.

Good question!

I love this comment on that video....

How come fighter planes leave "chemtrails", where do they store this stuff??? They hardly have enough place for fuel never mind anything else.

He never does answer that question!

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

Too bad you can't wade through 17 minutes of excrement because towards the end there are some pretty interesting anomalies.

originally posted by: enament
towards the end there are some pretty interesting anomalies.

Not really, just the person who made that video not understanding science and physics, nor has ever seen a balloon explode!