Police Brutality Syndrome

Upon reviewing all the recent police brutality and killings I'm starting to think we are uncovering a psychological sickness within the police forces. Perhaps it's somewhat similar to what men did for years by joining the priesthood to satisfy their pedophilia. We are seeing men joining the police forces to satisfy a sick psychological need.

What say you?

a reply to: bucsarg

Most if not all of society is sick. For me it's kind of hard to differentiate.

lol, I have an older cousin who was always a major power tripper. As kids if he ever saw you do something stupid, like egg a house (as kids do) for example, he'd always beat you up, then drag you off to the parents to lag you in.

Never got over the irony that he joined the police as soon as he was old enough, lol.

a reply to: bucsarg

I think society itself at times suffers from large scale psychosis.

Hence WW2.

It has been so long now that the west has lived in excess, that our psychology can't even contemplate things being different.

Sure some of us do, but not most.

As a result we as a society start to feel entitled.

When we feel entitled, we demand, when we are used to demanding and getting, we refuse to believe such a time will come we won't demand and get.

Then the worst part, people demand, don't get, and respond like a medieval royals child.

We lash out.

"I will show you".

I think the police are just reacting for the most part like so many other groups and individuals.

Think of people flipping out at McDonalds because they are out of mcnuggets.

Or justifying the evils one commits to villify your chosen opponent, mike brown is a example of this.

He was a thug, and a criminal, but because white police are the chosen enemy, mike browns transgressions are simply overlooked.

Or those that villify everyone without their particular political philosophy.

" all repubs are evil!!!"

"The dems are just stupid"

When in fact both sides are extremist zealots, fully indoctrinated in a political ideology.

Think what their told by the party, instead if thinking for themselves.

I do believe the left are the more extreme of the 2, but the right is nearly as bad.

So in the end, western society, in this case american society, is the result of third generation spoiled brats raising spoiled brats.

If they're joining the force because they have "a sick psychological need" then it's not really fair to call it police brutality syndrome, is it?

That's akin to, sticking with your other example, of referring to pedopihlia as "priesthood chomo syndrome."

Pre-existing conditions and such

a reply to: bucsarg

Authoritarians are a cancer on a free society.

Its mind control. Or just mainly selecting those who show sociopathic tendancies from the candidates.

As for entitlement. We work, we slave in fact. We are entitled to our fair wage, especially when the governments believe they are entitled to more than their fair share and fail to deliver what our taxes are supposed to pay for. It works both ways. This builds up over time, and people do lash out over little things because it is the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back".

The rulers ARE the problem. They have been abusing their position for their own nefarious and selfish purposes for far too long. People need to stop flipping their lids over trivialities and unite and flip their lids against those who put them in their position.

I think that we're missing the point. When I returned home from Vietnam the general public thought that veterans were drug users and crazy. It is only now nearly 50 years later that we call this PTSD. It is caused by many and long exposure to very stressful situations and events. This is nothing more or less than what our cops are exposed to just not on the battle field.

The cops are humans who feel and hurt and grieve just like our soldiers. They see the results of car crashes, shootings, domestic violence and everything else while we sleep at night. Then they are continuously under scrutiny by management and civilians.

Can't everyone see what is going on here! There is even a section here on ATS called Posse Comitatus that posts nothing but complaints against cops. About half is utter BS.

a reply to: bucsarg

I think you're right -- but I also think there's much more to it. For those who crave power over others, and especially those who use physical force to bully others, law enforcement careers would most definitely appeal to them. Add steroids into the mix, and supervisors telling them constantly that they are a target, and the most important thing in the world is that they go home at night, and laws and statutes that tell them they have a right to kill anyone as long as they feel threatened, and everyone becomes a target. Think Michael Brown... again and again we were told (screamed at!) that he had arms, therefore he was armed and dangerous.

Under these circumstances, even good cops can lose sight of that fine line between justified force and excessive force, knowing this is exactly what their bosses, their families, and even some of the public expect them to do -- nay! what they are told to do!

It seems the war on drugs was the first step in the transition, as we were made to fear innocuous plants and criminalize their use and the people who use them... those drug crazed fools (on marijuana) who had to be stopped at all costs!!! When in truth, it was the laws -- and the inevitable black market created by those laws that empowered the drug cartels -- that we should fear most.

But the bottom line is simple: If we no longer value life and everyone's inalienable right to life, anyone and everyone is fair game for any reason. As long as people believe they have the right to kill, then cops are going to be at the front of the line...

a reply to: buddah6

Great post: Right on the sweet spot.

Going from domestic violence to traffic violation or giving simple infos in just minutes is not 'normal'. When human go into high adrenaline situation it takes time to cool down. Just remember when you had an argument on the job and then have to 'downshift' at home: police officers do it all the time without the time to decompress. Great job but tough sometimes. And don't think they don't care: you just can't, you're dealing with human beings. That said, yes like in every part of society, they be around maybe 2% bad apples. Police is just a reflect of society where it comes from. No more, but no less.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: bucsarg

Authoritarians are a cancer on a free society.

Naive. Unless you live in a perfect world. Remove all authority figures in a society and watch it being taken over by tugs in a matter of days. Fine tuned balance between freedom/'social order' is hard to acheve but should be the goal though.

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: bucsarg

Authoritarians are a cancer on a free society.

Naive. Unless you live in a perfect world. Remove all authority figures in a society and watch it being taken over by tugs in a matter of days. Fine tuned balance between freedom/'social order' is hard to acheve but should be the goal though.

God I would hate to see a world run by tugs. Can you even imagine? Tugs. Tugs everywhere....

a reply to: Shamrock6

Holy crap, english module failed again ah ah ah

Followup:
Should have stated in original post there are more good police than bad. Thank goodness we have a police force to counter our sick society.

a reply to: bucsarg

a reply to: bucsarg

Maybe it is like PTSD, they need to know when a cop is burnt out.

a reply to: bucsarg

Question was honest I think

I think the vetting process when a person wants to join the police force needs to include a psychological work up of the person. This type of work is high stress and can be dangerous. a reply to: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
a reply to: buddah6

Great post: Right on the sweet spot.

Going from domestic violence to traffic violation or giving simple infos in just minutes is not 'normal'. When human go into high adrenaline situation it takes time to cool down. Just remember when you had an argument on the job and then have to 'downshift' at home: police officers do it all the time without the time to decompress. Great job but tough sometimes. And don't think they don't care: you just can't, you're dealing with human beings. That said, yes like in every part of society, they be around maybe 2% bad apples. Police is just a reflect of society where it comes from. No more, but no less.

Thanks for the support of my opinion. The hard part is fixing the problem!

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath

Naive. Unless you live in a perfect world. Remove all authority figures in a society and watch it being taken over by tugs in a matter of days. Fine tuned balance between freedom/'social order' is hard to acheve but should be the goal though.

I believe it is naive to think society will quickly regress with the removal of "all authority figures."

I do not know where you live, but the police where I live do very little to maintain order and justice. The reasons why aware people call the police over a crime is often to protect themselves(legally) or their assets(a police report is often required for an insurance claim).

Many naive people call the police over a variety of stupid reasons, like their neighbor playing the music to loud, or see something they deem suspicious because they have been brainwashed to live in fear and spy on thy neighbor.

We can police our own, no problem. An illusion has been created and too many brainwashed and naive people have been sold on the idea we need an aggressive militarized police force to act as judge, jury, and too often executioner.

a reply to: bucsarg

While this maybe true, the real problem en-lies with the 'blue code of silence.'

This means 'good cops' look the other way and even help cover-up 'bad cop' behavior.