*Update* Game Changer OR Paradigm Shift ? – Walter Scott Shooting: Enhanced Video Shows Officer Sl

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer

The instant we see Slager carry a taser over to Scott's murdered body and drop it on the ground next to him, his act of fraud renders ALL statement's from him suspect. We can no longer trust ANY statements or comments made by him following the incident.

With this I agree. Had he not gone back for the taser and dropped it next to the body, he might have walked even with footage of him shooting Scott in the back.

The only way I can see him getting out of this is if he claims he thought Scott still had the taser, and panicked when he went to cuff him and realized he didn't.

All it would take is for one juror to sympathize with him.

a reply to: butcherguy

ETA: BTW, are you suggesting that Taser wires are engineered to break easily? Think about that one.

Yes the wires are designed to break easily!

Learn what you are talking about before talking FFS.

They break easily because they have to be thick enough to not snap while not also thin enough not affecting the dart's trajectory. It's a mix or malleability + strength... compensated by how they are spooled.

I am starting to think it IS BETTER TO BE CARRIED BY 6 THAN TO BE JUDGED BY A JURY OF 12.

The fact that Slager went back to pick up the taser and plant it next to Scott does not prove that Slager is the one who shot it. It could very well be that Scott shot him with it and that Slager was afraid that he wouldn't be believed. To make sure, he placed the taser near Scott.

Then there is the fact that Slager mentioned that Scott took his taser, but didn't say a word about being shot. The video in no way proves that there is a dart in him, in fact to me it looks like the line is hanging over his arm. That means it's possible that Scott shot at him but missed.

I am in no way defending Slager's actions, only looking at all possible avenues. But if he shot Scott after being tasered by him, even if Scott missed, then that could certainly have an effect on the severity of his sentence. Those would be mitigating circumstances, wouldn't they?

soulwaxer

originally posted by: Gully

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Gully

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Gully

Man, I don't give a crap about the taser. The idiotic cop shot a scared citizen in the back dead. The cop should rot in jail.

Sooo if you had a gun, and I shot you with a tazer.. and still had the darts in you, you wouldn't shoot?

Darwin was right!

Ok, yes, I would shoot you dead as you ran away.

They why is it wrong for the officer to shoot?

remember... we are talking about this video! ( with tazer wires clearly shown)

Oh and please don't include skin color in your response

WTF does skin color have anything to do with it?

Shouldn't that cop be a better shot? Could he have not shot him in the leg? Wouldn't that have disabled him?

Why couldn't the cop have pulled out the barbs? It didn't look like the taser affect him, did it?

Just seems to me he was rather over the top in the use of force.

Hmm good question!

Have you ever shot a gun?

Thats a better question ...


Even better.. If you have shot a gun, who the hell told you to shoot for the legs and not the chest!!??

Darwin wins again

a reply to: Stormdancer777

I can't tell by the pictures either, guess we'll need to wait on the autopsy.

a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: Stormdancer777

I can't tell by the pictures either, guess we'll need to wait on the autopsy.

In this case.. given the video, I have no doubt the autopsy will show Scott was shot in the back. I'm not sure what the given evidence or precedence will decide this jury, but it sure will be interesting.

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Gully

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Gully

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Gully

Man, I don't give a crap about the taser. The idiotic cop shot a scared citizen in the back dead. The cop should rot in jail.

Sooo if you had a gun, and I shot you with a tazer.. and still had the darts in you, you wouldn't shoot?

Darwin was right!

Ok, yes, I would shoot you dead as you ran away.

They why is it wrong for the officer to shoot?

remember... we are talking about this video! ( with tazer wires clearly shown)

Oh and please don't include skin color in your response

WTF does skin color have anything to do with it?

Shouldn't that cop be a better shot? Could he have not shot him in the leg? Wouldn't that have disabled him?

Why couldn't the cop have pulled out the barbs? It didn't look like the taser affect him, did it?

Just seems to me he was rather over the top in the use of force.

Hmm good question!

Have you ever shot a gun?

Thats a better question ...

Even better.. If you have shot a gun, who the hell told you to shoot for the legs and not the chest!!??

Darwin wins again

So you are OK with the guy getting shot dead in the back and have no problems with it?

Yes, I've shot a gun, grew up with them, don't know why that makes a damn bit of difference. But no, I was never trained to shoot someone dead/and or disable them.

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.

Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

a reply to: coop039

This is interesting if the taser was fired by Walter Scott. I have read that Scott had a record. I wonder if the original phone video is more clear and we are being shown a lower resolution to add confusion to the public dialog.

I have also wondered why nobody is asking why Walter Scott ran. I saw that he had a "drug charge" whatever that means. If he actually was a felon then the officer is going to know that he is walking into a bees nest and be on heightened alert. A felon will usually just jump through the hoops and go downtown with the officer. That way he gets to sit around for a while, sign himself out, go home and continue his life of crime. The felon doesn't want to run unless he is carrying drugs or a gun. You have to imagine that the felon is asking the passenger to hold this, but if the passenger says hell no or he says he is thinking about running then the driver is going to be thinking about running too. Nobody runs from a simple child support situation. A known felon runs from the scene so he can toss the weapon down the alley out of sight from the officer. You know the officer is thinking a felon only runs to toss the gun and he pursues with very heightened senses. I guarantee the officers will testify that he thought the felon was running with a gun. Or else the officer did not even know the driver was a felon. I doubt it. The officer is said to have knowledge of the driver's family court warrant. So you know he has other knowledge too. Most likely knowledge of previous drug distribution conviction ( if that is the case ) and felon status. Real distribution felons sit through anything and then get right back to distribution. They don't run.

Running screams "I HAVE A GUN" in the officer's mind. Or drugs in my pocket. Those are the things that will cause trouble for felons. Even the drugs is nothing in the mind of the officer. But a gun in possession is a major problem for a felon. Drugs are just illegal products. Weapons are a "threat" to the "community" not only the officer. I really feel like this officer is going to get cleared and the news will have another opportunity to drum up a riot.

a reply to: doompornjunkie

I was referring to whether he was hit with a Taser. I don't think he was, I think the officer missed and got tangled up in the wire.

Edit; The witness said they were both on the ground before he started filming. If the officer missed and he was tangled up in the wire when both of them got up off the ground there was a good chance both of them were tangled in the wire.

So it's still ok to shoot somebody in the back?

Brave people over in that part of the world.

Looks like he was a car thief that ran from a routine faulty tail light stop.

The taser thing is not clear from the video. The cop was not incapacitated in the video if he did have wires in him. Maybe before the citizen camera showed up he was twitching on the ground from high voltage, that will ruin your cognition especially if you think your life is in danger.

originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: doompornjunkie

I was referring to whether he was hit with a Taser. I don't think he was, I think the officer missed and got tangled up in the wire.

Edit; The witness said they were both on the ground before he started filming. If the officer messed and he was tangled up in the wire when both of them got up off the ground there was a good chance both of them were tangled in the wire.

That doesn't even make sense. He knew another cop was moments away from the radio responses.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

It makes complete sense if you read the earlier post. You could hear the officer yell taser Taser taser from his dashboard camera. That was 200 yards away from where the scuffle ensued, I think he missed when he yelled taser Taser Taser and trailed the wire along with him.

Then when they got in the scuffle they were both tangled up somewhat in the wire when Walker broke and ran.

a reply to: Generation9

Nobody runs from a simple child support situation.

I disagree completely. People will run for all sorts of reasons. The root of which is fear. Really, it doesn't matter why he ran. What matters is whether the officer was justified in shooting him in the back. Which to me, appears not to be the case.

originally posted by: bullcat


So it's still ok to shoot somebody in the back?

Brave people over in that part of the world.

HA!!! Gotta love the foreigners!

Yes.. In America if someone has you attached to 1,000,000 volt + leads, you can shoot them in the back.

I know it sounds crazy, but hey! It's America

(please stop with the Anti-America campaign and join reality)

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.

Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

Maybe you should learn to read. The poster was talking about how many times darts can be deployed, not how long or how many times the shock feature can be used for torture.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: doompornjunkie

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: doompornjunkie
Here's a question: what proof do you have that Slager was the one who was shot by the taser and that Scott was the one who shot it?

The officer is on audio saying he's deploying his taser. It doesn't fire multiple times without being reloaded, now does it?

Seems to me that some are latching onto any possible explanation to excuse Slager shooting a man in the back. See, that happened quite clearly on video and that is illegal, which is why he is being charged with murder.

This is an attempt to blame the victim.

Uhh yes.. just like Butcher please FREAKING LEARN BEFORE POSTING!!!!

They keep on firing as long as the wires are attached and the trigger is pulled.. til the battery run out.

Thanks for trying, please try again.

Maybe you should learn to read. The poster was talking about how many times darts can be deployed, not how long or how many times the shock feature can be used for torture.

I read the OP several times before posting, and several times since.

What are you talking about???

You usually say things I agree with, but what are you pointing out? I don't see it..

looks like Officer threw malfuctioning taser away back behind him while reaching for his gun causing him to get tangled up in the wire also