Should it be ilegal to feed animals in neighborhood communities?

a reply to: InTheLight

Sounds like the dog has been yard-bandoned.

originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: InTheLight

Sounds like the dog has been yard-bandoned.

Yes, and he/she is not happy.

a reply to: paranormal78

I figured some one who wanted everyone riding bicycles would love the animals too.

Gated community, yet you want a job at a bicycle shop, and hate birds......I am forming a picture here.

BTW, I feed the birds. Have for 30 years, 3 feeders. Hummingbirds will be back in a month. Love the birds more than most people.

You don't like neighbors feeding birds move out of mom and.....nevermind.

Here ya go...

According to Worldwatch Institute, many bird populations are currently declining worldwide, with 1,200 species facing extinction in the next century

en.wikipedia.org...

If anyone, anywhere, makes it a crime, then they are violating common law, constitution, laws of earth and universe and nature and common sense.

Each and every one of us, veto's laws. We make null and void and criminal, unlawful laws, and in the words of the supreme court, null and void them, they do not exist.

So you are asking if I think psycho's intend to violate real law and enact unlawful criminal null and void laws that would take away my infinite freedom and common sense.

I think they do that all the time.

But I don't obey their crimes EVER, for I am not a criminal, but am free.

And I'll feed the animals, and birds, as I CHOOSE, and its criminal of you to think you can prevent me.

There is no debate , you're suggesting criminals enact another null and void, criminal law. It doesnt' matter what you or 7 billion others think, I don't stand under donkeys and their opinions, I'm free, nor give my freedoms away ever. Non debatable.

PERIOD.

a reply to: paranormal78

It is illegal in parks with small lakes and ponds in Michigan's Southeastern counties. Was in one tonight along the lake. The signs say please DONT FEED THE GEESE. They get dependent on the feedings and left an awful mess on the sidewalks. Feeding just encourages them to come back.

Ive seen a few elderly people wait for the County Sheriffs or State Police to go the other way, wait a bit, pull out a giant bag of feed and toss it around. The geese and other waterfowl come in droves. And I seen cops double back and ticket those seniors after many warnings.

They do create a huge mess as they come in the hundreds every week, and bikeways, and paved trails are a mess of as we say here-"goose-poop". People also leave out feed like carrots and bags of apples for the wild deer, who also get to depend on it, make huge messes, and many get killed by cars getting across the roads to the feed.

So, I get the point, and I used to feed the ducks and squirrels myself. City-wide here, skunks and lesser-raccoons come out at night and eat the food left out.

Some places its a huge problem. Same kind of signs at the cemeteries my folks are buried at...

PS The deer used to come up early mornings and eat the tops off some of my flowers...because folks would leave stuff out for them. And when they didn't...they came after my garden....

The stupidity of idiots wanting laws like that are one of many reasons I prefer life way out here in the boonies .. where I can garden and feed the animals in peace without some damn busybody complaining .. pity I cant feed busybodies to the tigers .. but that would be cruelty to animals ..

Upper class cry baby here everyone watch out

We feed squirrels, chippies, birds, and deer. Other animals that take advantage of this are weasels, martins, and a raccoon.

We live in the country, everyone around here does pretty much the same thing.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Having a rule in a public park for conservation purposes or public sanitation purposes is very different than passing a law.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

These rules aren't to save the beauty of the park. Don't Feed the Geese rules are in place to ensure the geese are following their migration patterns, as they should. When migratory birds find an abundance of food somewhere along their route, they're enticed to stay in the area, which is detrimental to their health; and, this effects the ecosystems where the geese winter.

a reply to: paranormal78

So it should be illegal to have a bird feeder?

Some people like to have cute birds visit them outside their window.

I feed the birds and small animals outside my home. Sometimes the birds knock on the door to let me know they're there. When the robins see I am up and abut one of them will be likely to chirp on the doorstep to let me know they want their breakfast.

If anyone wants to know why I do it, besides it gives me pleasure to see them, I'd just ask "How would you like to be out in the cold with nothing to eat?"

Mankind has concreted over so much of this planet and taken it and its resources for our own needs - are you really suggesting that now we should begrudge birds and animals something to eat each day? It's their territory we've purloined.

If your nice, gated community wasn't there imagine what a beautiful habitat for wildlife it could be.

a reply to: paranormal78

Please don't take this personally, but you seem like the sort of person that makes some communities a nightmare for most of the residents. As in, you want laws against anything and everything you don't personally like. Do you feel the same about house colors? What sorts of pots people put plants in? Someone parking in their own driveway? A satellite dish you can see from the street? Do you feel you should have a say in the color someone paints their house?

I personally detest this sort of rule-laden place, and will NOT buy a home in such a community. Local codes and enforcement take care of real issues, such as trash, un-mowed grass, abandoned cars, and the like. Homeowners regulations and unnecessary laws place an undue burden on people. It is a control issue, in most cases.

Seriously, though, what's your issue with the birds? I could understand a business, such as a restaurant with outdoor seating, setting a rule against feeding there, because you wouldn't want the birds congregating in the outdoor areas. In a neighborhood, though? The birds are already there. They eat bugs, and some, like crows, can even clean up small carrion. They aren't aggressive. They are pretty. Do they actually cause you a real problem, or do you just not like seeing them? When there are laws against feeding animals, such laws should be for very good reason. Feeding alligators, for example, is a very bad idea. They will stick around, and come closer to people than they might otherwise, and this can cause a real safety issue for all in the area, including the feeder. The same goes for bears. So, a law against feeding them is for safety. For birds, I don't see the issue. Bird feeders are a common thing for people to place around their homes. Some folks plant certain flowers to attract butterflies of various types. Would that be a probe as well?

I am not trying to be contentious; I really just don't understand the objection to bird feeding. Please let us know if they cause a real problem, so we can understand.

I guess I was just letting a problem get to me. Sorry if I seemed to be complaining about it. It's just that our area is starting to have a bit of a crow problem now and it is getting annoying. Wouldn't you be annoyed if crows kept cawing right by your window and being able to hear it with the window closed every morning at 5 or 6 am?

Crows become a problem when people feed them so bare that in mind when feeding them. If they know there is a good sorce for food more of them will start going to that spot. I guess the mall a few blocks away is also to blame. We live by an out door mall with a few stores and fast food joints and they could be coming because people are dropping food in the parking lots.

a reply to: paranormal78
To be honest, I grew up with a bird feeder right out side my window so I learned to sleep through them. Dogs on the other hand...

a reply to: paranormal78

If you can't share your life with the other stuff on the planet and feel that legislation should ensure that you have a sterile environment then please emigrate to the moon, now.

a reply to: paranormal78

Crows are omnivorous and eat whatever is available—insects, spiders, snails, fish, snakes, eggs, nestling birds,
cultivated fruits, nuts, and vegetables. They also scavenge dead animals and garbage.

Are the neighbours throwing any of the above out . Maybe some lids on bins might help .