UK General Election 2015 resources

originally posted by: yorkshirelad

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

The Greens, I don't really want to get around by Bicycle or Horse & Cart, so no thanks.

The difference between post WWII labour ideals and the current Greens is bug.er all!

Read the policy document and stop regurgitating the right wing anti green BS. As an ex labour and still left leaning person like myself you should be ashamed of that anti green BS.

No thanks, I work on the same floor as a bunch of tree hugger greenies. I actually listen to the drivel they spout day in, day out and I just can't see myself agreeing with anything they spout.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Hmm, I sort of think the same regarding the Greens (ish), and as Labour/Conservative/Lib-dem all support introducing GM crops into the UK, while UKIP are offering a free vote in Parliament, and I can't vote for the SNP, then UKIP will get my vote.
Strong chance of being elected in my constituency as well, and I want a trading relationship with the EU as they do, so yep, I'm pretty much decided.
It is a pity though because I've had professional and personal dealings with my MP over the years and he is a hard worker, just his party is supporting GM crops for the UK with no opportunity for us as a populace to influence the decision.
As I said earlier, a third of the UK's organic farms are here in the SW of England, it is a potentially massive issue for us and I'm voting for specific policy reasons.

...oh and basing them on UKIP's published policies, not what I've read in a tabloid newspaper or some unknown blog, or the claims of ATS members.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Once again SNP overlooked but UKIP and the Greens in there...it's all about England..Oh well. come the 8th all that will change.

I did not include SNP as they are not a national party. They are a party promoting Scotland and confined to Scotland. Had I included Scotland I would have also have included the Welsh and Irish parties. Whether you like it, or not, UKIP are running a UK-wide ticket.

a reply to: paraphi
I do think it is funny that the SNP bottled it and overruled their member standing in the English Berwick constituency lol
Could have made for entertaining politics SNP will not contest Berwick
...and while we all fawn over the SNP let's not forget the 18 MP's in Northern Ireland, this could be the most interesting hung Parliament in many years.

*Edit*
But remember folks, if you want GM food grown commercially for the first time in the UK this next planting season, vote Labour/Conservative/Lib-dem.
UKIP are offering a free vote for MP's in Parliament, and the Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru are against it. I'm not sure about the parties in N.Ireland though, probably one of the less important issues on their agendas.

a reply to: paraphi

I used one of your links and was surprised by the results. The site's blurb runs thus:

Vote for policies, not personalities

Compare policies from each party in their own words, and make an informed decision about who to vote for at the 2015 general election.

The site lets visitors read through bullet-points of policy on ten areas of welfare, crime, education, Europe and so on. The points are taken from the manifestos of each party: Green, Labour, Cons, Libs and UKIP.

It's a blind test because the user isn't told whose policies they are looking at. Obviously some of the policies are obvious but not many.

Not all of the proposed Party policies were easy to decide on. For example, I might have spent some time umming and ahhing over differences between Health/NHS policies. Not a patient man, I used gut instinct to make the final choice when it was tough to differentiate between parties. This means there's a lot of common ground between 2-3 Parties on key domestic issues.

The final results came in as 6 areas for Labour, 2 for UKIP, 1 for Greens and 1 for Lib Dems.

That's age talking as I never thought I'd see the day when my politics were so emphatically right of centre. It's also ironic as hell because I'd never vote for a Labour or UKIP gov. Look at what Labour (New or otherwise) have done to the country in past terms. The Greens, like everyone has pointed out, are too naive for running a country just yet. UKIP make me worry about a society of intolerance and legitimised bigotry and the Libs don't appeal either.

Thanks for posting the thread and especially the links. Other members should try this blind test and see where the dice fall. The test's almost an hour to take!

originally posted by: grainofsand
*Edit*
But remember folks, if you want GM food grown commercially for the first time in the UK this next planting season, vote Labour/Conservative/Lib-dem.
UKIP are offering a free vote for MP's in Parliament, and the Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru are against it. I'm not sure about the parties in N.Ireland though, probably one of the less important issues on their agendas.

Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru

That coalition would be very interesting! Shake up the established balance of power in UK politics.

originally posted by: teapot

originally posted by: grainofsand
*Edit*
But remember folks, if you want GM food grown commercially for the first time in the UK this next planting season, vote Labour/Conservative/Lib-dem.
UKIP are offering a free vote for MP's in Parliament, and the Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru are against it. I'm not sure about the parties in N.Ireland though, probably one of the less important issues on their agendas.

Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru

That coalition would be very interesting! Shake up the established balance of power in UK politics.

Any goverment that inlcudes the Greens and Im off to Canada.......

You can have your 3rd world hippy crap hole Im off.

a reply to: crazyewok

You got anything to offer Canada?
Remember they have a needs/points based system controlling their immigration just like UKIP want for the UK.
I guess that makes the Canadians racist as well judging by the opinion of some of the more rabid anti-UKIP folk on ATS...yourself included if I'm not mistaken?
Canada choosing who they let in = Good
UK choosing who they let in = Not good.

...hmm, something can't be right there.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: crazyewok

You got anything to offer Canada?
.

Yes
Qualifications in Microbiology and immunology opens a lot of doors.


And please quote where im against a point based immigration system?
Because I have always supported such a system
so yes you are mistaken.

a reply to: crazyewok
Cool, you would probably be welcomed as something beneficial to their nations needs.
As a semi-skilled construction labourer you would not...as I do not consider them welcome in the UK.
Is that racist?
I want an end to free movement of workers in the EU, I want the UK to be trading partners as Canada is to the UK.
You support the rules Canada has then by default you must support the same playing field between us and the EU...unless you can explain to me why the exact same Canadian immigration position supported by UKIP for the UK is somehow racist when we wish to apply the same to our nation?

a reply to: grainofsand

I have zero issue with a points based immigration system.

No idea were I have given any impression otherwise or that I think it racist.

All I have said is due to my area immigration has not been a big problem for me. But I have also stated I understand how it could be in other community’s.

In fact in a EU referendum Im voting out (though not really for immigration)

a reply to: crazyewok

So you fall in line with what I've read about UKIP's policy on immigration at the link in the OP.
It may be like acid in your mouth but all the cries of racist are bull# about UKIP published policy and everything else is emotional invention.
I actually know the guy standing in my constituency, he was a cool independent hardworking councillor and is going for MP under the UKIP flag and has a real chance of winning it. He'll fight GM crops in the UK to save our organic farms, he'll fight for an end to free movement of unskilled workers to reduce competition in labour for our local unskilled workers.
If that's racist then I couldn't give a flying #.
Just getting tiresome reading "UKIP are racist" when their manifesto and published policy is clearly not...if you actually read it.

a reply to: grainofsand

Look I have no issue with UKIP.

If they are who you think best represent you please vote for them.

I have not called them racist ect.

The only party I have called wacko and insane here are the greens!

a reply to: crazyewok
Fair one...the racist slur is a bad one I see directed at UKIP though and I've seen a fair bit of it already in topics, just mistakenly thought you were in that camp, sorry man.
I guess we mostly agree then, vote out of the EU, have a points based immigration system, keep our island crops GM free, and everyone be nice to each other!

If only politics were that simple lol.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

I'm voting Plaid Cymru. It might not make a difference, but I'm sick and tired of Labour and the Tories.

a reply to: Boeing777

Last I checked Amersham was in Bucks, England so I'd piss laughing if you had a Plaid candidate standing there!
Only joking, if you've got the vote in Wales then I'd go the same with Plaid if I was registered back at my Mam's in Swansea...they are against GM crops being planted in 2015/16 since the EU devolved the decision to member nations.
Conservative/Labour/Lib-dem will authorise free for all commercial GM crop production for the first time ever in the UK, UKIP are offering a free vote for our MP's in Parliament, while the Greens/SNP/Plaid Cymru are all against it.
I would vote Plaid, even with the ridiculous Labour majority in my Mams constituency, but I live in the SW of England and it is my home now so I vote UKIP as the candidate stands for things which the others don't, no GM crops and EEA trading instead of EU governed...and he's got a chance of winning it.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Do you wanna pull something out of their policy page from the link in the OP and disagree with it Solo?
I've seen that before when you posted it in another thread, tear the policies down which the OP provided us for debate perhaps, or do you just wanna be all tabloid tonight?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Hahaha! Just noticed this in your post:

Behave yourself Solo, that's you Scot's wanting away from us Welsh, Northern Irish, and English in the UK, but wanting to still drop to your knees for your masters in Brussells, lol, I'd prefer a trading partnership but if you want to be ruled by the EU then go for your life, I'm voting UKIP and/or out in any referendum. They will still trade with us in an EEA, and as I hope you haven't forgotten saying during the Scottish referendum we will still trade with you.
Can't have it both ways, funny as # you see an issue with wanting not to be ruled by foreign countries but you choose independence from the UK and ruled by the EU...funny as #...it explains why you go tabloid sometimes fella.

Jesus man, You cant have a bit of fun round here nowadays without people going all calimero or yer arse...it's an injustice. lol