It's Starting--> Indiana Christian Pizzeria ATTACKED by gay lobby

a reply to: Sremmos80

Nonetheless ... that garbage is well on it's way through the Rightstream Media:

1500+ sites echoing the Gays are the Same as Nazis Article

Oh, but there's nothing wrong with that ... lying is no longer a sin for Christians.

a reply to: Sremmos80

If you'll just write out a list of sites that are acceptable to you, then I'll just cite those from now on.

I'd hate to bring up something from a site you don't approve of.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Sremmos80

If you'll just write out a list of sites that are acceptable to you, then I'll just cite those from now on.

I'd hate to bring up something from a site you don't approve of.

Right ... it doesn't matter that the site is full of garbage ... it's just a matter of "preference."

Just another typical, no-content post implying that you're somehow being repressed.

Are you one of the long-lost members of Monty Python?

We are not to judge but to decern and measure our own action against what the bible says. You are correct that there are to many claiming to Christian when that is not even biblical. They were first called Christians at Antiock, not that they called themselves that but that others saw Christ in them.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: guitarplayer

So, it takes the conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit, and not the words or actions of others?

Well, all the better reason to be decent to people! If your words and actions have no meaning for the individual concerned, if the Holy Spirit focusing upon a person who lives in sin, is enough to shake them loose and understand what they are doing from a new perspective, and maybe even change it, then what the hell difference can being discriminatory and unloving make?

I say again, no matter which way you slice this, the only Christian thing to do to anyone, is to give them basic respect, to love ones neighbour and so on, without prejudice. Whether one happens to operate a business or not, judgement is not for human kind to involve themselves in. That is for God to do.

a reply to: beezzer

Ya cause that is what I said.

You don't have to get my approval by any means.

But I am more then welcome to call something bias am I not?

Or is it cause you said it isn't, then that means that is not biased at all.
If that is the case, can I have your list of sources?

a reply to: Sremmos80

I just called it amusing.

And then I waited to see all the "open minds" and "tolerant folks" come in.

Honestly?

It's still amusing. But now it's the rabid responses to it.

originally posted by: beezzer

It's still amusing. But now it's the rabid responses to it.

This guys intention was pretty rabid.

Right, more right-wing political correctness ... when someone doesn't agree with the standard party line, they're just being intolerant of intolerance ... IT'S THE SAME THING, AFTER ALL, AMIRITE?

Lol ... every response that doesn't merely parrot the official right-wing line is "rabid."

I wish I could find it amusing. Instead, it seems tragic.

a reply to: beezzer

Strange how the word amusing isn't even in the post...

Just cause people don't agree with a source, or won't look past it's obvious stance on things doesn't make them close minded.

Surely you know this though, being so much more open minded then the rest of us.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Seamrog

No one has ever come into the arms of The Lord, by being ostracised and poorly treated by his followers.

If you really feel love toward homosexuals, and want them to come to the light of God, you must understand that the first step is not treating them as if their sins are any worse than yours.

I did not / do not advocate treating anyone poorly.

No one has ever come to the Lord by continuing in sin. Multitudes have come to the Lord by being called to the carpet for their sinful behavior.

I have posted here several times that my sins (and I am a very accomplished sinner) are NO less offensive to God than those of people who call themselves gay. I meant that, and I don't think I carry myself that way.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Don't forget freedom-loving ... LOL.

Here's the real deal. We can argue back and forth until we can't stomach it any more.

The danger of this Indiana law is not primarily its threat to equal rights; the fundamental issue is that it extends so called "religious rights" to anyone who claims a belief which supercedes written law.

It is not restricting abuses by the government, but "likely" abuses by fellow citizens.

As I keep asking, how long until a court has to rule on which god is the real one?

Allah? YHVH? God the Father? Heavenly Father? etc.

originally posted by: Sremmos80

Civil rights came about from the minority being tired of getting treated unfairly.

And so what did they do? First step was for people to even realize something is wrong in the first place...

Are you saying it came about from the majority realizing what they were doing was wrong just all of the sudden?
Was the elimination of segregation considered the norm when the civil rights movement came around?

It became the norm with the South holding out last for that change. There is no "all of a sudden" it is mainly a slow change of the mind set of the populace from decade to decade . A new generation comes a long and that tend to think differently then the older generations... Elimination of segregation started decades before it was completely realized.

The minority wins when they are treated the same as the majority.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Seamrog

You want to dictate to others how they live their lives then? Pass judgement on them?

More nonsense from you.

I said neither of those things - I did say that I don't want hate - as you indicated.

We are each given free will, and the ability to act accordingly.

Judgement is not mine, as I'm not the One who made the rules.

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Seamrog

You want to dictate to others how they live their lives then? Pass judgement on them?

More nonsense from you.

I said neither of those things - I did say that I don't want hate - as you indicated.

We are each given free will, and the ability to act accordingly.

Judgement is not mine, as I'm not the One who made the rules.

Where is that excellent post, another poster posted, that talked about how Christians separate themselves by blaming their God?

"Not my fault" - - - "I'm just following God's teachings"

a reply to: Annee

I'm not claiming to avoid any 'fault.' I'm sorry that you can't wrap your mind around logical thought, because it makes any discussion with you impossible other than the silly quips you throw around.

Christians are the one's struggling to embrace what we were called to be - not separate ourselves from it.

originally posted by: Seamrog
a reply to: Annee

I'm not claiming to avoid any 'fault.' I'm sorry that you can't wrap your mind around logical thought, because it makes any discussion with you impossible other than the silly quips you throw around.

Christians are the one's struggling to embrace what we were called to be - not separate ourselves from it.

I was raised Christian. Don't tell me "can't wrap my mind around it".

But, I do not support BLIND faith. No One should choose to be BLIND.

a reply to: beezzer

the more these conversations go on, the more comments I see about removing people's right to freedom of religion... and that to me is so very wrong..

instead of people being adults and saying no, I do not want my rights to trump yours but I would like my own set of rights, they are saying religious people should not be afforded protections for beliefs I don't agree with..

and this is probably how it all begins.. the constitution gets shredded because people only care about their own rights and could give a # less about the rights of another.

originally posted by: Annee

No One should choose to be BLIND.

You can't wrap your mind around logical thinking - it goes over your head every time, and you respond with quips - exactly like you did here.

I do agree with you, that choosing to be blind to reason, tradition and order are terrible - our society suffers the consequences of it in an exponentially increasing manner.

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: beezzer

the more these conversations go on, the more comments I see about removing people's right to freedom of religion... and that to me is so very wrong..

You can't take away a belief.

However, a secular government can create law that everyone is treated equally.

Business is not your Personal Church. When you get a business license you agree to certain terms.

YOU made that choice.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Seamrog

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Seamrog

You want to dictate to others how they live their lives then? Pass judgement on them?

More nonsense from you.

I said neither of those things - I did say that I don't want hate - as you indicated.

We are each given free will, and the ability to act accordingly.

Judgement is not mine, as I'm not the One who made the rules.

Where is that excellent post, another poster posted, that talked about how Christians separate themselves by blaming their God?

"Not my fault" - - - "I'm just following God's teachings"

God is not the cause of the problems.

Satan is the problem.