Maybe get to Mars in 39 days ?

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I ended up hating my roomate in the dorms after a semester. I can't imagine how much animosity a Mars crew would have after 6 months inside a tiny space craft.

I can remember feeling intense rage over the smallest things my roommate would do. I SHUT THE BLINDS FOR A REASON!

Just imagine being stuck in pressurized capsule for 6 months together...

Thats why they go through intense training for that.

Not to mention they filter those out with the wrong personality at selection.

Millions want to be astrounts, only a handfull get to be one.

originally posted by: nelloh62
www.dailymail.co.uk...

According to this article, there are new engines under development which NASA are considering which might cut the travel time down drastically. I am no expert, but how much effect would this have on the crew, if any effect at all. What say you, rocket experts on ATS

This idea has been around awhile.

Its a great idea but there one problem and thats power.

Vasmir only works aswell as the energy you put in.
With solar its usefull for orbital stuff but further out and you need more power.

With solar its useless beyond jupiter too.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

DON'T have to.I lived in the back of a Bradley with another guy who stole my food as well as 3 others on board.,during Desert Sheild/Storm/Provide Comfort. 7 months all told.
Forr kicks we would go to the burn pit to toss in shaving cream and watch it explode..

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Ben Rich ,I think...

originally posted by: nelloh62
www.dailymail.co.uk...

According to this article, there are new engines under development which NASA are considering which might cut the travel time down drastically. I am no expert, but how much effect would this have on the crew, if any effect at all. What say you, rocket experts on ATS

Would that tech make safe air travel to Europe? I mean not the planet but say London?


DO

As they say at Tokyo Disney Star Wars..."Lighto Speeeeda!"

Lets see when we have another man on the Moon. I have a bad feeling not in my life time. Oh...US of A.

2nd.


DO

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: nelloh62
www.dailymail.co.uk...

According to this article, there are new engines under development which NASA are considering which might cut the travel time down drastically. I am no expert, but how much effect would this have on the crew, if any effect at all. What say you, rocket experts on ATS

This idea has been around awhile.

Its a great idea but there one problem and thats power.



Vasmir only works aswell as the energy you put in.
With solar its usefull for orbital stuff but further out and you need more power.

With solar its useless beyond jupiter too.

If you look at the portfolio of MSNW LTD, one of the recipeints of that funding; they produce not only the ELF thruster but the Helion fusion reactor and John Slough, one of the principles, is also the HMIC of the direct conversion fusion rocket. which means fusion in space and a plasma thruster that is already faster than VASIMR even without fusion.

how about Mars in 40 minutes?

Some day someone is going to say "Ahead Full Impusle speed!" and a ship will actually proceed at 25 percent C:

www.technologyreview.com...

its not superluminal warp but is subluminal warp.

Even if we could get to Mars in 39 days, ( I am not saying we can ) spend a short amount of time there, and 39 days back, how would we protect from cosmic radiation. Earth has its own natural defences, but could we generate a big enough magnetic field in a spacecraft to help shield it. I think astronauts are limited to 6 months on ISS, with the outlook of spending a year there but that is in LEO which helps. Now I know there have been some longer durations in space,But at the moment I cant find any long term health reports for them.

www.popularmechanics.com...

Impossible.. There's a radiation field around the planet.

originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: nelloh62
www.dailymail.co.uk...

According to this article, there are new engines under development which NASA are considering which might cut the travel time down drastically. I am no expert, but how much effect would this have on the crew, if any effect at all. What say you, rocket experts on ATS

This idea has been around awhile.

Its a great idea but there one problem and thats power.



Vasmir only works aswell as the energy you put in.
With solar its usefull for orbital stuff but further out and you need more power.

With solar its useless beyond jupiter too.

If you look at the portfolio of MSNW LTD, one of the recipeints of that funding; they produce not only the ELF thruster but the Helion fusion reactor and John Slough, one of the principles, is also the HMIC of the direct conversion fusion rocket. which means fusion in space and a plasma thruster that is already faster than VASIMR even without fusion.

Well if you connect it to a fusion reactor that makes VASIMR a whole different animal

Though if or should I say when we harness fusion we may as well go fusion nuclear pulse as we can get 10% speed of light with that. Though VASIMR would be useful for smaller course changes ect

Even if you get a small nuclear fission reactor up a VASIMR engine would be stupidly useful. The problem is the hippies blocking that idea.

originally posted by: awareness10
Impossible.. There's a radiation field around the planet.

No its not.

The radiation field is not uniform. there are thin parts that a fast moving ship can pass through safely which is what the Apollo mission did with a tiny increase of cancer risk.

At the speed a VASIMR engine connected to a good power source could give you one could zip through the van Allen belt without worrying at all.

a reply to: crazyewok

What if the World we call Reality isn't what we thought it was? What if...
What if it was all an illusion? Who made it real and why should i believe
it is. People believe too easily in this 3D realm, but why? Surely this is not
all there is. Think outside your box. Earths History reveals much more than
just one 'way' just one 'idea'. Reality is not what we've been told.

The Maori believed along with other ancient cultures that this is only 'Dream Time'.
Other Cultures believed this also. Why do people believe only in one ideal?
Constant Repetitive reasoning.

If you are told something is true over and over again
it will become your reality.

Anyways too much cannot be explained by 'seaonce aka Science'. It's all fluff and personal glorified
crap to me.

If Lockheed Martin's Fusion Reactor works out VASIMR can even be scaled up and make a faster flight possible. VASIMR works but it needs good bit of energy. I also seen some stuff about how you could design it so that its magnetic coils could also provide Space Crews with some protection from cosmic Rays etc...

I think the future to all this is to design everything modular, so that you can replace each part as tech improves, so basically you just need to build a scaffolding in space where you can "Dock" modules such as engines, crew habitat, landing vehicles, Fusion Reactor, emergency areas, cargo pods, and maybe some robust debris shielding at the front end (Maybe just attach a small Iron Asteroids up there for shielding as shape don't really matter in space)) Could also hollow out a few for the cargo. Aerodynamics not an issue. You could fly a cube as fast as you can fly a sphere!

Make it reusable...bottom line that is cheaper.

a reply to: Xeven

Wonderful reply.

You do realize that 'most people' here will look at your reply and read it as
'blah blah blah, when he amazingly, blah blah blah'd. But don't worry because
blah blah blah will save the planet.

just saying. Sorry but if you use terminology humans can comprehend i think it may be
somewhat comprehensive to those with no degree in comprehensivity.

Im not being obnoxious or critical. It's just my nature. Please, carry on.

originally posted by: Xeven
If Lockheed Martin's Fusion Reactor works out VASIMR can even be scaled up and make a faster flight possible. VASIMR works but it needs good bit of energy. I also seen some stuff about how you could design it so that its magnetic coils could also provide Space Crews with some protection from cosmic Rays etc...

I think the future to all this is to design everything modular, so that you can replace each part as tech improves, so basically you just need to build a scaffolding in space where you can "Dock" modules such as engines, crew habitat, landing vehicles, Fusion Reactor, emergency areas, cargo pods, and maybe some robust debris shielding at the front end (Maybe just attach a small Iron Asteroids up there for shielding as shape don't really matter in space)) Could also hollow out a few for the cargo. Aerodynamics not an issue. You could fly a cube as fast as you can fly a sphere!

Make it reusable...bottom line that is cheaper.

LM is not the only ones building a fusion reactor. like i said MSNW is making one and they got the 3-10 year NASA funding too because of their ELF ion drive. there are multiple avenues to a fusion rocket ongoing now.

a reply to: SpongeBeard

Pretty much any rocket could hit that speed,

You forgot that his calculations were for a constant 149,000mph for 39 days.
Even Vasmir has to build up speed slowly.

And no rocket can get close to that speed.
The Dawn spacecraft is the fastest and it's only doing 25,000 mph.