5 Million Square Foot Underground City Discovered In Turkey

a reply to: VoidHawk

Just wondering, are you one of "them?"

originally posted by: enkagiran
a reply to: Xcathdra

i wish i could find that video again but they made hills which were lined up with the stars. By the way i am form there

Oh ok cool...

Every time I see the articles about these types of finds I always ask where the debris went while they were building. I always figured it could give insight as to how the places were made.

Thanks for the info.

originally posted by: tadaman
Wow, thats impressive.

Even if used only recently in history, the process of building something so massive would have had to have been started LONG ago. It could even be a site of constant human occupation since the remote past. Maybe natural cave systems that were enlarged over time as populations made use of them and continued excavation.

26000 people could have lived there...how big were populations in the remote past? If we did reboot from a former civilization, these would be some of the bunkers where we could have done that.

26000 people back then compared to novadays is massive....It would have considered as a very large city

a reply to: aboveTopGun15

Would it? Ancient Rome had a million (or 500'000 dpending upon the period you are looking at). Ancient Baghdad was similar in size, same for Constantinople.

In point of fact, it is only between the end of the Roman period and the late medieval period that European populations were so low. This wasn't the case in India, the "Near" East, China, etc. The Silk Road had some huge cities on it.

For me, the interesting thing is the need for these cities. Was it a response to climate threats? Was it a response to volcanic threats? Was it a response to invaders? Was it none of the above and something completely from left field? I would love to know but sadly suspect the reasoning is lost to history......

a reply to: theantediluvian

I am so interested in Turkey for some reason. Such an interesting place. I have a dream of visiting Istanbul one day

originally posted by: np6888
a reply to: VoidHawk

Just wondering, are you one of "them?"

Do you think I'd be on here if I was

a reply to: eisegesis

Smart people eisegesis, whoever they were they had some serious design ability, and knowledge of how to keep airflow in these chambers properly as to not smoke everyone out. Ants, and termites put us to shame building underground complexes with perfect ventilation, but I would say this stuff is some of the best examples of overcoming the elements with the elements. I really do think that this could
have been a safe haven for people maybe through times such as the ice age. These complex architectural achievements really prove to me we have had a great base of knowledge for quite some time and I think we may have lost the better half of our ancient knowledge sometime in the past.

Just wanna say to those thinking "nuclear war" that it is way more likely a natural event they had some forewarning about... floods from impacting comets/asteroids... something like that.

How they'd know and be sure enough to build such a complex is a darn good question, though... and if it were as simple as raiders, fortifications would suffice and be less bother... an underground complex indicates something big.

OR a society of 'preppers'... heh.

eta and of course previous societies were 'preppers' or we wouldn't be here... the world can be hostile without police and grocery stores!

a reply to: Baddogma
Edgar Casey said we would find a city so another of his predictions has come true, I believe they didn't live in the dark but had light

a reply to: PlanetxIsComing


I had forgotten that tidbit... I know esp is a fact, but as it's a mental phenomena it's ephemeral by nature... hard to be exact, dependent on the minds involved and also difficult to translate 'metaphorical mind meanderings' to language.

Cayce was an interesting case, though, no doubt. What was his take on the "whys" of the underground complex's construction (in a paragraph or less so derailment isn't total)?

a reply to: Baddogma

Possibly a persecuted group initially, and as others came along saw a useful start and continued.

Or possibly others fleeing invaders/raiders begged entry forcing expansion... Or heck their God said build a city here I dunno.

If I was a betting man, raiders forced people under, and the soft rock and natural tunnels were a faster path to safety versus sprawling defensive works.

originally posted by: Baddogma
Just wanna say to those thinking "nuclear war" that it is way more likely a natural event they had some forewarning about... floods from impacting comets/asteroids... something like that.

How they'd know and be sure enough to build such a complex is a darn good question, though... and if it were as simple as raiders, fortifications would suffice and be less bother... an underground complex indicates something big.

OR a society of 'preppers'... heh.

eta and of course previous societies were 'preppers' or we wouldn't be here... the world can be hostile without police and grocery stores!

I few on here mentioning floods/volcanos, it wouldn't be the pest place to hide as the lava and water would fill up their city.

Heat, lack of building materials, perhaps social status security?

Vietcong built similar to fight the Americans and South so, much smaller of course but they didn't have 100's years.

I like the comet idea, the church also has a history of scaring us into religion, it's probably quite telling there is a church down there.

"We are creating a vast underground city for our followers for when the day of Reckoning comes" que more followers and a subordinate persons willing to work for the church for fear of the raptor!

a reply to: Irishhaf

Yeah, soft stone, time and a threat seems the best answer to me, too.

It just is odd that it's so huge ... such a concerted effort by so many folks for a long time... and then there's the difficulty in dating stonework... but I'd love the know the story there. I bet it's a good one.

a reply to: np6888

Torches, oil lamps, candles. The caves aren't exactly air tight and have some amount of ventilation, so primitive lighting methods will do. Definitely quite dark by modern standards with xenon, HID, or LED lighting, but adequate. Even with just the light output of one candle, you eventually adjust and get accustomed to it within an hour or so. I could also think of 1800's tech using alcohol or oil burners and a mantle or limestone for relatively bright light, but I'm not sure if more primitive examples of such ever existed.