Airplane electrical failures caused by an EMP (courtesy of Planet X)

originally posted by: Baddogma
If we're throwing darts at a board to explain airline disasters, I''ll play.

I'll suggest the mysterious airplane crashes were caused by mind control tech as warnings to foreign governments not to fall out of line.

Don't know what Malaysia and Germany did to p.o. someone, though.

It's based on nothing much more than tinfoil and guesswork, but a mind controlled cockpit is the "easiest" answer. The mind control stuff does have a basis for existing... and might be more rational than an emp from planet X.

My real guesses are more down to earth... but most anything is at least possible.

I am sorry to say, but that is nonsensical given the evidence.If you are in doubt?

like I say anybody can make these predictions once they know the 'formula' so to speak, which is spoken of in the links provided...come back and reference this thread when this unfortunAtely happens again.

here's another link that will help understand what is at hand.

survivingthepoleshift.com...

a reply to: EndOfDays77

I think they invented the word moron just for you!

Wow, with replies like that your going to be a big hit here on ATS.

a reply to: EndOfDays77

survivingthepoleshift.com...

This is just about as credible as zetatalk which you may want to read...

rationalwiki.org...

educate-yourself.org...

Enjoy.

An EMP that effected only one plane in the area, and nothing else?

I live near this area, I can assure you lots of planes were on those same flight paths yesterday, and an EMP of the kind of force needed for this effect) would have effected some of my appliances at home - which did not happen.

.....then the mention of planet X? ???

You lost me early on.

This thread smells like a troll. I'm surprised it made to 3 pages smh. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a few laughs though.

Hey Krazyshot.

There's no need to be condescending. I get the feeling that some folks here (who I referred to as the contingent) are suppressing this info,I think as to your assumption of the rest not believing? That is understandable given the magnitude of this subject,but after analyzing the evidence the only excuse they will have is willful ignorance.

I am quite aware of the MSM stance on Planet X and I think you need to check in again it has come a long way since Nemesis in terms of what is widely accepted.Here is a link with all the pre announcement media coverage and tactic of subtly preparing the masses:
poleshift.ning.com...

I have seen the object so I can tell you it is true and I say to anyone the best chance is at sunrise/set although PXs visibility is increasing during the day.

With respect you have no idea of this solar systems history,the facts disagree and you won't find them on MSM.

How about something constructive?

Why are they removing data from the systems assessing the magnetosphere? And we can clearly see this reflected also in the solar data, say when the Sun is quiet yet we are still getting dramatic particle bombardments.

This data tampering is also occurring on the EQ data,tsuni buoy data is being removed from public viewing!

The cover up list goes on! Anyone that cannot connect the dots is in delusion.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: EndOfDays77

The theory is interesting, unfortunately the "Planet X" in your last picture is not Planet X, it is a glitch.

Sorry.

Here are over 100 pages of glitches that have even corresponded to second sun sightings on Earth
poleshift.ning.com...

a reply to: EndOfDays77

The problem is you are insisting on using Nancy Lieder's web sites as some of your source.

Here is a thought: using REAL science, try and make your case using REAL data, REAL information, etc, and not that provided by a woman who claims to be channeling information from aliens.

Using orbital mechanics, please show how a planet of any significant mass is able to have any effect on the Earth, without doing so to any of the other celestial bodies within our solar system.

Please show (and yes, I want to see the math), how another planetary body can create an EMP pulse that is so narrow and selective to have caused a single jet to fail, but will not affect any other jets in a narrow flight corridor.

Continued linking to Zetatalk or poleshift.ning is not helping your case here at ATS at all. Quite the opposite in fact. Especially once 2012 ended, most followers of Nancy either stopped posting here at ATS, or decided to pursue other subjects.

originally posted by: EndOfDays77
How about something constructive?

Good question. I see you didn't answer my concern about this blast of electricity somehow missing and not breaking all the satellites the emp had to pass by in order to get to this one plane.

Why are they removing data from the systems assessing the magnetosphere? And we can clearly see this reflected also in the solar data, say when the Sun is quiet yet we are still getting dramatic particle bombardments.

This data tampering is also occurring on the EQ data,tsuni buoy data is being removed from public viewing!

The cover up list goes on! Anyone that cannot connect the dots is in delusion.

Why are you making stuff up? None of this is true. Or at least you have presented no evidence that it is true.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: EndOfDays77

very funny..two grand assumptions there.

well lets count the ones in your OP,

There are the 2 video links that assume or speculate they see Planet X or Nibiru, so that's 2 right there.

then there is the first line of your OP

This scenario/phenomena is the most plausible imo

Your opinion is an assumption based on others claims you believe. that makes 3.

here is 4

But we are talking unprecedented levels of particles ATM and apparently we humans do not fully understand there are more particles than is widely acknowledged.

here is 5

Here is the Planet X system as viewed from one of the many solar observatories.

so to use what said to swanne for saying its not,

thanks and um.. How do you know it is?

Basically everything in your OP is your assumption based on what you come across certain internet sites (Oh we wont forget seeing Planet X with your very own eyes), you say so by saying your opinions are quite clear.

Yes your opinions are you assume what you posting from certain sites is correct data and claims.

Wow thats is 5 grander assumptions than the 2 that you drive and there is no planet X, if there was a planet X it would be named and given a reference other than a name used for the unknown or speculated heavenly bodies out there.

2 nibiru threads in the space of a few days, Ask and ye shall receive,

Just a few days ago I said we haven't had such a thread and now this one of yours and another one yesterday or the day before that I read.

Nice try..as I have said I have seen the object.As for how we know what it is by name even? It combines a multi disciplinary approach and analyzing the data past and present.I have presented factual data from the magnetosphere that indicates unprecedented levels of particle bombardment and subsequent eddys, so you are on your own in your delusion

I think starting a Planet X related thread is the best way to get certain individuals to reveal their true nature,so there you go..keep em coming.. Although I'll probably scan over your post saying that..

All the best!

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: EndOfDays77

No it's not. Pluheeese get a clue fella. If you believe it's real I got some ocean from property to sell you. It's in Kansas.

Judging by the nature of your posts I'm inclined to think that you genuinely believe you have a beach front property in Kansas..

Have a rest my love..

I would really like to know - why do you take fringe nonsensical easily disproved crackpot ideas from Nancy, ZT, and nutjob YouTube videos so seriously and with absolute belief over proveable, viable, well studied, well known and EASILY proveable science that states that Planet X/ nibiru / Whatever does not exist , cannot exist, and is incapable of producing magical EMPs that target one tiny plane in one miniscule part of the atmosphere.

Really, id like to know why you believe the trash so much?

Do yourself a favour, start looking into the garbage you are gobbling up so willingly and actually think to yourself, hey, can that actually happen?

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: EndOfDays77

They rerouted flights to avoid this magic EMP burst, but there were quite a few planes around that plane yesterday. Not much of a reroute. There were probably six flights around the last flight you said was an EMP burst. And not one other aircraft was affected by this massive EMP burst. Not one satellite overhead was affected by this massive EMP burst.

Hi Zaphod.

Not sure if you misunderstood my post or I wasn't clear or something? But my speculation was that they MAY have rerouted flights,over say the Indonesian islands as a good example,as this is a hot spot, given the extreme nature of the plate movements reflected in the tsunami buoy data in the area and additional removal of data.

So they may attempt to reroute,but this phenomena-although it can be predicted in a sense, still remains unpredictable given the complexity and vastness of Earths structure.

Look i did not invent this theory if we should call it that,but I'm afraid it is the best on offer IMO like it or not,we have an industry and experts that are effectively clueless and here we have a completely sensible 'theory' in this thread answering the questions that seemed to go unanswered in MSM..I am keen to hear your personal theory backed up with factual data.

Yes it appears we are essentially witnessing particle bursts and fluxes,so it is entirely possible that this phenomena will be more discriminate ATM,but as PX approaches this particle phenomena will increase and we can detect that (in fact I have followed it for the last year daily) so ultimately the greater increase in particles the more planes that will go down, more regularly and most likely a grouping will occur.

That's good you mention satellites..didn't we have one come down fairly recently? I'm sure that's one to look out for, pardon the pun.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: EndOfDays77

Edited you say?

If that's the case, why did they leave that one frame there?

I do say edited yes,the Guys that follow this daily and hunt them photos will tell you that,false backgrounds have been known to be added the list goes on.

It is also quite possible that there are hiccups and data gets unintentionally released and with diligent 'common folk' also tracking the data it is harder to suppress,I also think some/one of the solar cameras went down for while fairly recently if memory serves..but..it is also foreseen that the solar cameras will go offline at some point for good as the images become blatant.

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: EndOfDays77

Help me out.
Exactly how does a EMP affect a microprocessor based system?
With what units do you measure the effect?

An EMP would cause bits of memory to change value (1's to 0's, 0's, to 1's). Depending on what those bits represent, the effects can be minor or severe. This would cause floating-point values to have precision errors at the very least, negate the value if it hits the sign bit or change the magnitude if it affects the exponent. Similar thing would have if it hit an integer or boolean value. If a pointer is affected, that's likely going to cause an overwrite of data used somewhere downstream in execution or even cause a segmentation fault if that pointer references a non-existant block of memory.

Fortunately, aircraft use fault-tolerant systems where everything is done in duplicate. If the two or three systems don't agree, then the results are discarded and recalculated.

Hey I was just about to say that

Seriously though,I wanted to respond to that post, but also wanted to know a bit more on what was referred to-I won't pretend to,I don't.

But I look at this whole thing from a common sense perspective,in which I believe this scenario is possible due to unprecedented levels of untested particles and the data-lets not forget the experts are clueless at this point.

I can imagine any electrical parts and components will be damaged irreparably after a hard blast,unless protected by lead or something,I assume the lead on a plane idea won't catch on?

Thanks for the input

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: EndOfDays77

Well..if you'd read the links, clearly you haven't, you should know that this EMP Is apparently attracted when there is either compression or stretching in the rock strata and tectonic plates,creating an arch which is then a beacon for attracting these particles..so this is not happening constantly,plus I assume those at the top/TPTB are well aware of ZT accuracy and may well have re routed their flights in accordance

I did read your links.....they are as preposterous as your above comments!

Are you trying to tell me that this EMP targets one particular plane when there could be dozens flying in the same area?.....seriously?

You (and your links!) are very fond of using words like "apparently" and "assume" and "maybe"

Anyhow, the flight recorders have been recovered from the plane that crashed yesterday, no doubt you will scream "cover up"!! when the true reasons for this tradgedy are revealed, whilst babbling on about the non existant EMP's fired from the non existant planetX are the "most plausible"

No Buster the attitudes displayed in this thread are proposterous, I was expecting it anyway and I'm quite up for it tonight-so yeah!

Right,your first question was brought up by somebody else and I answered it please check for that.

As for my use of the word apparently etc? Well that is a case of doomed if you do-doomed if you don't! I thought I'd incorporate that word into this thread as people seem to have an adverse reaction when told in the non politically correct way.I used to do the non p.c thing, but had people moaning,same goes for all that p.c IMO business..

I'll stop there I think..anyway you cannot acceptably debunk the 'theory' (I'm being p.c again just for you) that I have presented,only adding opinion! Now as for the flight recorders and flight/crash analysis,this has been well covered in the links and the BB data supports sudden electrical failure-with no May Day as it happened that suddenly it was not possible.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
Here are a couple of things that should help the OP understand why there is no Planet X, Nibiru, or any other planet size entity in our solar system.

I almost forgot the dwarf star video...

You may want to research the proof that the Earths orbit is halted..yes have a look..you should be able to find it with the site name and key words.You are presenting info from widely accepted positions that have been proven to be fraudulent,which also play along with the cover up..we are still only in our infancy (MSM position) of understanding the nature of space.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: EndOfDays77

I think they invented the word moron just for you!

Wow, with replies like that your going to be a big hit here on ATS.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Truth seeking is not a popularity contest the general populace have proven themselves to be un civil (no offense to the decent contributors) BTW you could have added the post I replied to instead of taking it out of context,very cheap!

Halted orbit you say?

Pretty sure all the planets I can see with my own telescope are right where they are meant to be, and considering we are just leaving winter into spring here, yep the seasons are working as intended

Oh, and I suppose the near total solar eclipse that I saw, with my own eyeballs, here in the UK last Friday was some kind of hologram? Because it sure did get dark and colder. Oh, and that solar eclipse was predicted in a book I have from 1955.

None of those things are possible if the earth was "halted" in its orbit.

Its balls, and you know it

Stars and flag for your presentation and retorts....

You havr kept retorts on track and not personal attacks

Most dont read the ops any more, they make snap responses based on their opinions of the subject. Within 40ish minutes you had a whole page of responses, most just opinions with no back up. Took me 40 mins just to read and look at everything.
But i digress, back to topic

This is a great topic for conspiracy, look at its implications..,,of course it would be denied and any knowledge covered up.

The way im sorta seeing the op..these emp thing is sorta like a lightning strike, sorta unpredictable but witj certain requirements for manifistation, quick, very directed, powerfull but leaves little evidence, specialy if it didnt strike anything. There is gray evidence for these things and it seems that the argument against, is a based on a lack of documenting the evidence for it.