Western Fascism...

I'm off to my Sunday 'sit' and have little time and wanted to share a wonderful article that I heard partially read on air on KPFK this morning. When I got home, I looked it up and read the whole thing. It's a remarkable piece and worthy of your attention.

johnpilger.com...

Not having time to comment myself and hoping you will read the entire article, a wonderful ride through recent history, I'll leave a quote from the end to wet your whistle:

Once again, there is serious purpose. The rulers of the world want Ukraine not only as a missile base; they want its economy. Kiev's new Finance Minister, Nataliwe Jaresko, is a former senior US State Department official in charge of US overseas "investment". She was hurriedly given Ukrainian citizenship. They want Ukraine for its abundant gas; Vice President Joe Biden's son is on the board of Ukraine's biggest oil, gas and fracking company. The manufacturers of GM seeds, companies such as the infamous Monsanto, want Ukraine's rich farming soil.

Above all, they want Ukraine's mighty neighbour, Russia. They want to Balkanise or dismember Russia and exploit the greatest source of natural gas on earth. As the Arctic ice melts, they want control of the Arctic Ocean and its energy riches, and Russia's long Arctic land border. Their man in Moscow used to be Boris Yeltsin, a drunk, who handed his country's economy to the West. His successor, Putin, has re-established Russia as a sovereign nation; that is his crime.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
I'm off to my Sunday 'sit' and have little time and wanted to share a wonderful article that I heard partially read on air on KPFK this morning. When I got home, I looked it up and read the whole thing. It's a remarkable piece and worthy of your attention.

johnpilger.com...

Not having time to comment myself and hoping you will read the entire article, a wonderful ride through recent history, I'll leave a quote from the end to wet your whistle:

Once again, there is serious purpose. The rulers of the world want Ukraine not only as a missile base; they want its economy. Kiev's new Finance Minister, Nataliwe Jaresko, is a former senior US State Department official in charge of US overseas "investment". She was hurriedly given Ukrainian citizenship. They want Ukraine for its abundant gas; Vice President Joe Biden's son is on the board of Ukraine's biggest oil, gas and fracking company. The manufacturers of GM seeds, companies such as the infamous Monsanto, want Ukraine's rich farming soil.

Above all, they want Ukraine's mighty neighbour, Russia. They want to Balkanise or dismember Russia and exploit the greatest source of natural gas on earth. As the Arctic ice melts, they want control of the Arctic Ocean and its energy riches, and Russia's long Arctic land border. Their man in Moscow used to be Boris Yeltsin, a drunk, who handed his country's economy to the West. His successor, Putin, has re-established Russia as a sovereign nation; that is his crime.

This is incredibly interesting because I swear I spent today watching John Pilger documentaries and journalism for the first time. I even considered posting something on him here, probably around the time you posted it.

I am watching one of his older documentaries about international development: www.youtube.com...

His coverage criticizing mainstream journalisms for their lack of objective and investigative journalism when it comes to foreign policy and war is great:

www.youtube.com...

Fasci-nating

Something to ponder is the fact that many Russian and some Ukraine stocks actually trade ADR's in the U.S.

The Full List of Ukraine ADRs

The Full List of Russian ADRs

that was an incredible read..
thank you

Great link op!

johnpilger.com...
Had the Nazis not invaded Europe, Auschwitz and the Holocaust would not have happened. Had the United States and its satellites not initiated their war of aggression in Iraq in 2003, almost a million people would be alive today; and Islamic State, or ISIS, would not have us in thrall to its savagery. They are the progeny of modern fascism, weaned by the bombs, bloodbaths and lies that are the surreal theatre known as news.

Like the fascism of the 1930s and 1940s, big lies are delivered with the precision of a metronome: thanks to an omnipresent, repetitive media and its virulent censorship by omission. Take the catastrophe in Libya.

In 2011, Nato launched 9,700 "strike sorties" against Libya, of which more than a third were aimed at civilian targets. Uranium warheads were used; the cities of Misurata and Sirte were carpet-bombed. The Red Cross identified mass graves, and Unicef reported that "most [of the children killed] were under the age of ten".

The public sodomising of the Libyan president Muammar Gaddafi with a "rebel" bayonet was greeted by the then US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, with the words: "We came, we saw, he died." His murder, like the destruction of his country, was justified with a familiar big lie; he was planning "genocide" against his own people. "We knew... that if we waited one more day," said President Obama, "Benghazi, a city the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world."

Everybody should read this and understand the very nature of the evil in America!

This was the fabrication of Islamist militias facing defeat by Libyan government forces. They told Reuters there would be "a real bloodbath, a massacre like we saw in Rwanda". Reported on March 14, 2011, the lie provided the first spark for Nato's inferno, described by David Cameron as a "humanitarian intervention". Secretly supplied and trained by Britain's SAS, many of the "rebels" would become ISIS, whose latest video offering shows the beheading of 21 Coptic Christian workers seized in Sirte, the city destroyed on their behalf by Nato bombers.

a reply to: FyreByrd
This is what I have been trying to say to people. WE ARE THE NAZIS. No one wants to believe this,but we are using the same tactics,following the same play,using our propaganda the same way. People think if they are just loyal to the government,it will all be fine in the end. I have heard where the German people pretty much thought the same way. They were loyal to their government up to the bitter end. They waved their flags and chanted and marched to the Nazi tune,whether they did it out of fear,loyalty,oppression,or really believed in the Nazi state,matters not,what does matter is they supported it,backed it,held on to it,and denied any wrong doing until the end.All the while more and more people died.I hope you don't mind me sharing this in another post here, I think there are way too many people that need to wake up before its too late.

a reply to: Willtell

Everybody should read this and understand the very nature of the evil in America!

But US is just one tentacle of a larger beast. England, France, Germany and Israel are also heavily evolved so perhaps the real drive behind fascism is within the EU. We know that many of our so called democratic leaders have mentioned a new world order but none have described its rule, It seems that the ruler(s) that hide behind the curtain demand loyalty from their puppet representatives by only allowing those with something to loose (paedophiles etc) to be elected. It all smells like a satanic cult has taken the reigns of power.

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Where did you find the docs? I've an old iMac and his site didn't work the way they intended on my machine so am hoping you found them someplace else. I'd love to see some as I just discovered him as well.

a reply to: xuenchen

Have no idea what an ADR is but do find it annoying when folks use acronims without explaination the first time (I understand the psychology of it 'I'm kewler then you') but still find it very childish.

originally posted by: autopat51
that was an incredible read..
thank you

Wasn't it? Any thoughts or comments? I'm just really not sure what to say as I've never seen the progression of 21st century fascism laid out so planly. I look forward to reading his eariler works on the subject as well. He's been around quite a while and was a reporter in Viet Nam, so has the background and experience to back up his work. Amazing, indeed whatever your personal political take.

a reply to: Willtell

You are right - about everyboby reading this. It really sums up recent history, definitively and factually.

Thanks for the longer quote. There is really nothing to add.

Read the piece you won't be disappointed.

a reply to: Dimithae

Yeppers, me too. But this guy can write like no body's business. And his facts are unimpeachable. I'm now trying to see if his sources are available online because I want to use many myself.

A treasure trove.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: xuenchen

Have no idea what an ADR is but do find it annoying when folks use acronims without explaination the first time (I understand the psychology of it 'I'm kewler then you') but still find it very childish.

American depositary receipt

An American depositary receipt (ADR, and sometimes spelled depository) is a negotiable security that represents securities of a non-U.S. company that trades in the U.S. financial markets.

Shares of many non-U.S. companies trade on U.S. stock exchanges through ADRs, which are denominated and pay dividends in U.S. dollars and may be traded like regular shares of stock. ADRs are also traded during U.S. trading hours, through U.S. broker-dealers. They simplify investing in foreign securities by having the depositary bank "manage all custody, currency and local taxes issues".

Corporate trading is alive and well on all political fronts.

a reply to: glend

Please note the title of the thread "Western Fascism" not "US Fascism". The US is just the primary enforcer - militarily and economically.

a reply to: xuenchen

Thank you, I learned something new today.

a reply to: FyreByrd
Thanks you for this, I'll give it a read. I have a collection of Pilger Documentaries that are all very good, going back to his early days as a journalist. From Viet Nam to Banana Republics etc.

a reply to: xuenchen

Just for you Chen (I assume the family name is first):

www.hermes-press.com...

Rather sensationalist for my taste, but our more libertarian members will appreciate it and it does have some interesting quotes regarding "Western Fascism"

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Where did you find the docs? I've an old iMac and his site didn't work the way they intended on my machine so am hoping you found them someplace else. I'd love to see some as I just discovered him as well.

I found both on youtube. Try the links I posted. If not just search on Youtube his name and a bunch come up.

I like his style. Like Chomsky he dissects the propaganda of our governments and self-serving and immoral nature of much foreign policy but also is not super out there like many conspiracy theorists. It's just moderate enough that "normal" people can watch it and not totally dismiss it. That is important.

a reply to: FyreByrd

And a more left (though not truely Left) critique of multinational capital and fascism:

www.aljazeera.com...

A couple of quotes:

Global inequalities and the impoverishment of broad majorities mean that transnational capitals cannot find productive outlets to unload the enormous amounts of surplus it has accumulated. By the 21st century, the TCC turned to several mechanisms to sustain global accumulation, or profit making, in the face of this crisis.


One is militarised accumulation; waging wars and interventions that unleash cycles of destruction and reconstruction and generate enormous profits for an ever-expanding military-prison-industrial-security-financial complex. We are now living in a global war economy that goes well beyond such "hot wars" in Iraq or Afghanistan.

For instance, the war on immigrants in the United States and elsewhere, and more generally, repression of social movements and vulnerable populations, is an accumulation strategy independent of any political objectives . This war on immigrants is extremely profitable for transnational corporations. In the United States, the private immigrant prison-industrial complex is a boom industry. Undocumented immigrants constitute the fastest growing sector of the US prison population and are detained in private detention centres and deported by private companies contracted out by the US state.

Two:

A second mechanism is the raiding and sacking of public budgets.

and

Three:

And a third is frenzied worldwide financial speculation - turning the global economy into a giant casino.

As in the libertarian souce linked in the above post, this has many good things to say.

This is an area, as Ralph Nader likes to say, where left and right (moderates in actuality) can agree and should come together to fight.