Crimean Tatars Going Missing

a reply to: paraphi

Human rights organisations don't exaggerate...

HAHAHA !

Everything is used in propaganda wars !

a reply to: paraphi

Keep it on Crimea. Is that possible ?

Do you want a BBC not propaganda piece about how the situation in Crimea is ?

Life in Crimea: One year on from Russia's takeover

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I know it's difficult to accept that human rights organisations are non-governmental and raise issues that are difficult to disprove, what with the evidence shown. I would rather believe the findings of a human rights organisation raising an alarm that human rights in Crimea have deteriorated significantly, to a blog that unapologetically promotes a Russian-centric worldview and says "every day is Christmas day in Crimea with our new Russian masters".

Remove blinkers. Three, two, one.

... and

a reply to: BornAgainAlien
What's materially inaccurate about the BBC report? Think it through.

a reply to: paraphi

...so human rights organisations are only to be trusted when they are following the Western propaganda machine (yes, what I posted came from a blog, but it was also coming from an independent human rights organisation)

SNIP

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
...so human rights organisations are only to be trusted when they are following the Western propaganda machine (yes, what I posted came from a blog, but it was also coming from an independent human rights organisation)

Sorry, if you set your standard that you will only believe something if it fits with your worldview then you should not be on a discussion board that debates.

You'll find human rights organisations pick out problems in the West you know. And, yes, I would believe a human rights organisation over the sources you have presented so far.

a reply to: paraphi

Like this you mean ?

“Pro-Democracy Terrorism”: The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is a Propaganda Front funded by the EU

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Not in the context of Crimea. I have already asked you to try and keep it to topic. Have you anything to disprove the OP?

a reply to: paraphi

. Have you anything to disprove the OP?

Nope, as there isn't really anything that refutes the truth of what is happening to the Tartars in Crimea.

originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Not in the context of Crimea. I have already asked you to try and keep it to topic. Have you anything to disprove the OP?

I`m going to try and disprove it, once it`s proved to be true and not something which could have been made up just as easily.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: paraphi

...so human rights organisations are only to be trusted when they are following the Western propaganda machine (yes, what I posted came from a blog, but it was also coming from an independent human rights organisation)

Let`s face it, the OP was nothing more as another propaganda piece which seems to be the new norm on ATS now..."open one after another Western propaganda piece with lighting speed as truth."

The ATS owners should start to think about what will happen to ATS, if it`s being used relentlessly in such a way.

This thread was started during the run up to Crimea reunification day in Moscow...who just pumped out a 3 hours TV special on the topic.

You have some nerve to call this propaganda yet defend Russia's actions constantly.

originally posted by: noeltrotsky

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: paraphi

...so human rights organisations are only to be trusted when they are following the Western propaganda machine (yes, what I posted came from a blog, but it was also coming from an independent human rights organisation)

Let`s face it, the OP was nothing more as another propaganda piece which seems to be the new norm on ATS now..."open one after another Western propaganda piece with lighting speed as truth."

The ATS owners should start to think about what will happen to ATS, if it`s being used relentlessly in such a way.

You have some nerve to call this propaganda yet defend Russia's actions constantly.

Why ?

Am I on some kind of hit list, the suggestion has been made before on this forum because I was posting too much about what goes against what people in The West should hear...?

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Am I on some kind of hit list, the suggestion has been made before on this forum because I was posting too much about what goes against what people in The West should hear...?

Putin wouldn't let one of his best backers end up on a list.

No it was because you parrot whatever Russian media says...whether it's true or not.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
I`m going to try and disprove it, once it`s proved to be true and not something which could have been made up just as easily.

That's a lazy and backward response, considering I have presented a reliable source that supports the OP. If you cannot show that since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea the human rights of Tartars have NOT been compromised and that there is essentially ethnic cleansing going on, then I will tend to believe it.

After all, Russia has form in these matters. For example, Russia watched and oversaw the ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia that was widely reported by human rights organisations.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Am I on some kind of hit list, the suggestion has been made before on this forum because I was posting too much about what goes against what people in The West should hear...?

Putin wouldn't let one of his best backers end up on a list.

No it was because you parrot whatever Russian media says...whether it's true or not.

...if so, he would have contacted me already and started to pay me.

a reply to: paraphi

In an information war such things are always going to be said...with all the BS we have been seen coming from one side in the last year and half, the changes are too big I would be chasing a ghost...I will choose wisely to spend my time otherwise.