Feds Announce Takeover of Police in 6 Cities

In federalizing a local police force, would that force become authorized to handle beaches of federal law? Illegal immigration for an example? Or federal gun violation charges? Arrest of federal office holders like Congress or Senate members? Would they have the same arrest abilities as the Sergeant of Arms of the Senate (the only person who can arrest the POTUS BTW)?

Interesting possibilities could be opened up here.

Of course we all know what kind of trust is going to be handed out, with 4.7 million dollars.
It's called DRONE TRUST, MRAP TRUST, M16 TRUST, BODY ARMOR TRUST, VIPER CHECKPOINT TRUST, DELAYED SEARCH WARRANT TRUST, CAMERAS EVERYWHERE TRUST.

Our trust is going to be beyond all human understanding.

Ewe are being herded.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: jude11

I chuckled as well. We are seeing an ever-increasing expansion of the Federal Gov., even with more scandals and corruption being brought to peoples' attention.

Government: Do as we say, not as we do

Officials are never held accountable, and if one goes down it's because someone (or multiple people) higher up had too much to lose; so often what comes out is just the tip of the iceberg.


People: *cricket noises (nobody cares, the corruption continues, the militarization of police continues, etc. etc.)

It sure does, but the reality is that you are talking about state government and Federal government, since they are both governments and neither of those are there to protect you, and by default any state or Federal police force are not there to protect you either.
In some ways, a civic police, or a civic guard police force with it's own constitution that guarantees protection of the people might not be a bad thing, because it would be bound by it, and that's miles away from any state police force who are bound by pretty much nothing, except state laws.
Apart from that, you could try and hire your own protectors...if you have enough shinola.

Does anybody ever bother to read what these are? Or is it more fun to just make some stuff up and run with it. This is a grant program that also comes with a review and study on these police forces arrest, detainment, and prosecution practices to see if they show bias, how they can be streamlined for easy review and other such things. They have no power to do anything other than turn in a report so the department can make changes if they decide to. So if a department has problems with the community it can look at the data and see if they arresting one group at a much higher level than others in particular for minor infractions. For the Police they gets some money for some new computers that can all talk to each other and if the look clean they can show the community and if they are not clean they can fix the problems. In no way shape or form is the Federal Government taking over the police. However please fo not let that stop normal sky is falling routine.

a reply to: FamCore

"Feds Announce Takeover of Police in 6 Cities"

NOT. C'mon; let's get a bit real here. 7.5 Million dollar initiative spread over 5 cities isn't a drop in the bucket. They're not taking over anything. They're proceeding with a BS initiative called "National Initiative for Building Community Trust and Justice Announced" which will just be more "Diversity" Training for police officers. The Feds aren't taking over any police departments.

Next the Feds will be offering financial incentives to do things a "certain" way.

#Danger Will Robinson !!

originally posted by: MrSpad
Does anybody ever bother to read what these are? Or is it more fun to just make some stuff up and run with it. This is a grant program that also comes with a review and study on these police forces arrest, detainment, and prosecution practices to see if they show bias, how they can be streamlined for easy review and other such things. They have no power to do anything other than turn in a report so the department can make changes if they decide to. So if a department has problems with the community it can look at the data and see if they arresting one group at a much higher level than others in particular for minor infractions. For the Police they gets some money for some new computers that can all talk to each other and if the look clean they can show the community and if they are not clean they can fix the problems. In no way shape or form is the Federal Government taking over the police. However please fo not let that stop normal sky is falling routine.

That sound you just heard is rapidly deflating sails thanks to you and TonyS. Never fear, though. Chicken Little is strong.

The most frightening words you can hear from the government :
"We are here to help"

a reply to: FamCore

You know, this kind of thing always makes me think back to when I worked for a boss who never listened to their staff. Everyone had amazing ideas about to move the company forward, how to increase revenue, how to retain staff and grow the company in new developing areas, but the boss never paid any attention at all - because how could some lowly person possibly have a clue about managing a company!?

It's the same in instances like this.

Instead of actually consulting with the public to come up with proper solutions, a bunch of career politicians, most of whom have never worked a proper day in their sorry lives, and have probably never lived in any communities like those troubled with such problems, deem them to be all-knowing in how to deal with it.

Obviously something needs to be done, but from my distant position in the UK it looks like the US just wants to throw money at it, waste money on focus groups and think tanks, spend more on implementing all kinds of wishy-washy nonsense that no one seems able to actually quantify and describe, when all they really need to do is call town meetings and ask the PUBLIC what they NEED them to do!

Maybe they won't do that because they know that the first answer will be the removal of weaponry.

a reply to: Rocker2013

I think it's more about wanting to have statistics to draw from to gather information.

Townhall-meetings are great for populists, but they're problematic for gathering information due to issue of demographic representation in meetings. Requiring data from police-departments will go a long way in recognizing issues in the criminal justice system.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
Maybe we could wait for some results before screaming about how it's all a front for something else? Maybe we could say gee, maybe this will do some good before we start screaming about how it won't?

If done properly, this might be...promising.

originally posted by: here4this
The most frightening words you can hear from the government :
"We are here to help"

No, no, it's "The VA dentist will see you now"

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: Shamrock6
Maybe we could wait for some results before screaming about how it's all a front for something else? Maybe we could say gee, maybe this will do some good before we start screaming about how it won't?

If done properly, this might be...promising.

Lol! That's one whale of a big "if".

I'm sorry, but relying on the feds to do anything properly and fairly, is like not saving for your retirement, because you're positive that someday, you'll hit the lottery.

a reply to: FamCore

Stockton, CA?? Why not just say little Oakland?

Who is Barack Obama? Think about it. He is a lawyer, but most of all, he is a community organizer. His "expertise" is getting funding mainly through government grants for various and sundry programs.

Now, after having served as the president and having appointed cronies in key positions, when he leaves office in Jan. 2017, The Barack and Michelle Obama Foundation will start off with all the government (taxpayer) grant money they need.

The groundwork for all these DOJ programs, immigration programs, diversity training programs, neighborhood programs, etc. has been hoed and cultivated ever since this community organizer was put in as POTUS. We could write a book about all the connections.

With Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, and other buddies in key positions, The Barack and Michelle Obama Foundation will start off with all the government (taxpayer) grant money they need. Watch out Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea! Competition for all that Big Government Grant Money is going to hit you in the face.

IMO, that is a major reason for all the racial tension and divide that Eric Holder and Barack Obama have stirred up. It is a major reason for allowing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants to flood our country needing services, both legal and social. Wait and see.

I have to repeat the punchline again....the federal government helping police departments gain trust of the citizens...dude that's gotta be a typo right right?

can you say agenda 21?

and there seems to be a movement of states rights versus federal government .. how would this impact that?

the federal government getting involved in anything is not a good sign

originally posted by: jude11
"needs help from the federal government to gain trust from its citizens"

Now that's funny.

Jude11

Especially with Eric Holder being the one to describe such a plan. It's like a falcon or a hawk making security recommendations for a family of mice!

a reply to: FamCore

Take a good hard look anyone with braincells and see simple truths.......This is very....very bad. PTB are reaching the end game and consolidating power.



Agenda 21.....This is all I see nowadays.

a reply to: MrSpad

Do you consider the Ferguson arrest reports to show bias towards a particular group?

a reply to: FamCore

I find it funny that Minneapolis was chosen. I have lived in Minnesota right outside of the Twin cities my entire life, and have never heard of any issues regarding policing or "racism".

Was Holder blindfolded and spun around a few times before pinning a few places on a map on the wall?