The Joke of Attraction

I'm pretty sure that men have experienced and figured out by now that what attracts them towards women is completely different than what attracts women towards them. Put simply, I think we have all figured out that men are sexually attracted to women more than women are sexually attracted to men. Don't get me wrong, ladies love a muscular body with great abs and dislike an overweight slob.

To get to the point, men are aroused very easily, it only takes visual contact upon a female to create sexual emotions and lust inside their heart and mind. Women understand this - which is why if you go out into town on a Saturday night you will see most women in short shirts and 'revealing' clothes.

Women on the other hand are attracted to other things as well as physical and sexual attraction. They are attracted to pride, and also comfort. Monetary value will provide the comfort. Everybody knows it is not uncommon for a sexually attractive woman to be with an unattractive millionaire. Many women I know will not ever consider dating a man if he does not have an expensive car, no matter what kind of spiritual or physical attraction they may have together: he could be her soul mate and God could come down from heaven to state it, but she would still reject dating him.

Men, overcome by emotions and defeated by the inability to have any control over another woman's openness to love him, have even come up with techniques wishing to succeed in the unlikely event that a woman will actually want him for his character.

Effective steps that should be done in order to create an attraction between its practitioner and to almost any woman in the quickest amount of time. Now, this is something every man wants.

Then we witness the psychological manipulation by women. First, if a woman knows of anything that a man wants she will do anything in her power to prevent the man from getting what he wants. The root cause of this is jealousy because the role of men is more dominant than women (again pride is held most important in contradiction to the bible). Known to the world as 'You will find love when you are not looking,' because they know that if a man is looking for love a woman will reject him and not love him (it is an simple as that). Which brings us into the subject of mind games, and if men play them, they have only created that as a last resort in defense against the actions of women.

The sad fact is that women play mind games all the time when they want to get men to do things that they want or need (and they may be doing it subconsciously). (shows a picture of an attractive woman with a big smile on her face)
The bottom line is this: no matter what method a woman uses, you should never fall prey to a woman’s mind games.

The reason for me writing this post is because of a personal experience I had last week. I did not give time for a woman, for her to manipulate me, so when I said 'No,' she shut me off (1), refused to talk to me forever (I guess) (2), ignored me talking to her by turning around as if she didn't hear me (3), and flirted with another man in front of me (4)(which was not the first time, I had actually seen this woman talking with me and leave the conversation to flirt with another man before I could finish my sentence). She is trying so hard with her tactics to manipulate my emotions, but she does not know that 1: I do not want her, 2: I would never treat another human being that way, and 3: I understand that only my deeds have an emotional effect on my conscious (which took me some time to learn). And to look at her face during this whole process, she had a frown bigger than the Scrooge or the Grinch. Does she know happiness? Does she know what causes happiness within the human heart? (As if she cared). (I could go on for many other examples that show women need the delusion of dominance and pride so much just to feel good about themselves that they will willingly sacrifice their own integrity and become a hypocrite to come out on top of an argument, in that situation I let them be hypocrites because rejecting pride like they reject truth and real love, I don't have any motive for winning arguments).

Truth. Love. Life. Light. Happiness. If you do not have an expensive car and a lot of money, you will not find any of these things from being in a relationship with a woman. If you just want fornication to release the urges of your body see it as just that, because nothing 'good' will ever come out of encountering the opposite sex in today's world. Over the 2,000 years of religious leaders lying to humanity about Christ, none of them will tell you that Jesus excluded women from his council for one reason - They Could Not Be Trusted. This has not changed in since the world began. To be 'righteous' one must give up the material things of this world, which one of you knows a sexually attractive woman who would give up their cellphone and material things??

You will soon find that every action a woman has is for the manipulation of human consciousness, and every smile that a woman has is from the pride of this manipulation towards the human species. In other words, every female that you see dressed promiscuous that Saturday night is influenced by the spirit of Satan. That is why Jesus said it was a sin to look at one of them.

Now Truth. Love. Life. Light. Happiness. - I Am.

Uhm... one thing.

You made the primary mistake of saying "women" and "men"... instead of "that one woman" or "me."

Oh, and another thing... there's always prostitution and one's hand (or manufactured appliances) if human mating rituals get to be too much.

And one more thing... rape is bad. I know it's likely unnecessary, but thought I should throw it in, just in case.

Oh for goodness sake!

One personal experience and all women are manipulators? Hmmm...

How about I say all men are wife-beating misogynists? I'd like to think you'd call me out - after all it might apply to a small minority, but by no means many, or every man.

which one of you knows a sexually attractive woman who would give up their cellphone and material things??

As it happens I know some men you could ask this about too...

...That is why Jesus said it was a sin to look at one of them.

As I recall, the verse said looking lustily at someone was the equivalent of adultery. Not looking.

What shall we do? Shall I start wearing a hijab, or do you want to start wearing a blindfold?

Over the 2,000 years of religious leaders lying to humanity about Christ, none of them will tell you that Jesus excluded women from his council for one reason - They Could Not Be Trusted.

Source please?

At the risk of sounding impolite - which is very much not my intention - I do believe you need to resolve some personal issues with women & stop reading the bible through such bitter glasses.

Take care

a reply to: Baddogma

He also forgot that there are sexually attractive women who don't have alot. Because of that, attention from a good man is priceless to them.

What I have found is that no matter what women say they like, they are slaves to their own bodies. Virtually no conscious thought goes into determining what men they are attracted to. Attraction essentially is not a choice. So guys who wonder why women don't "pick" them need to realize that it is likely what they themselves are doing that fails to create that attraction in a woman. Subconscious cues are picked up on by women. The way a man carries himself, his confidence level, etc., are all contributing factors in determining attraction. You mention pride, but I think a better term is simply confidence. The best thing for guys to do is fake it, if they are not naturally confident people. Because you will become what you repeatedly do. So essentially fake it until you make it. Your confidence level will improve over time, and this will naturally be attractive to women.

Looks may be important to a woman mentally speaking, but again, a guy that looked like a dog (and not a pretty dog), could make a woman attracted to him by his demeanor. I've seen a dwarf in a wheelchair pull some of the hottest women I've ever seen. No joke, and he too knows it is all about confidence. He knows he is not an attractive guy, but his physical situation is 20 times worse than most guys, yet he can repeatedly have the same success with women. That should be encouraging to regular guys who are always put in the friend zone. You are definitely correct that money can be an important factor, because of the handful of things that create attraction in a woman, power is one of them. But it is important to mention that having money is not necessary to create attraction. Money equals power and freedom, and more importantly, security. This goes back to our evolutionary roots. Like any other animal it is the alpha male who mates with all the females, and thus females are geared to naturally respond to this, because they instinctually know that this means stronger offspring, with a greater chance of survival. I think the one thing that is important for guys who are not successful with women to realize is that there is no "convincing" women to be with them. Again, attraction is an instant thing. Usually guys get put in the friend zone because that attraction is not present. It is usually much easier for a guy to move on as opposed to attempting to improve his situation with a woman who has already labeled him as unattractive. Again, not physically speaking, but in terms of personality, personality that creates attraction.

First of all... are you OK? You seem genuinely disturbed by the behaviour of one, might I say, very rude female!
How dare you tarnish women in general by this one bad experience?!

As a woman I feel I have several different layers of attraction...
1) 'Honkle Honkle!' - let me throw you against a wall have my way then leave you
2) I wonder what my life would be if I was with you
3) I enjoy your company and want to spend more time with you, but in a non sexual sense. I feel this is still a form of attraction, as if you don't like someone and attracted to an aspect of them why would you be friends with them?

I do not play games, and I think you'll find most self actualised women with an independent mind seek someone to enhance what they consider to be an already full life. As my friend's nan says 'Men are an Accessory not a necessity'.

Truth and honesty are essential. Any person who manipulates people, will get what's coming to them. I am great believer in Karma, and in the end they will be miserable.

I think you also need to think about going to different places to meet women. You will never find a woman in clubs or pubs, they are a bit 'meat markety'. I agree with some women need to learn the rule of legs or boobs, not both. Sometimes women dress for themselves, or fellow females, not just to attract men. But in a club, you are only really going to find casual partners or one night stands. Nobody goes there for a meaningful exchanges of ideas and conversation. That's what coffee shops are for.

Why don't you try joining a group in something you are interested in, then at least you would have one thing in common if you did find anyone there of interest. Obviously, if you are into Christianity- there are specialist websites, also try a different church, join church groups.

I would just try different tactics if you are looking for a life partner, cos you ain't going to find a 'fun- loving, GSOH christian woman' whilst in a dingy club.
The chances are slim.


But please don't let one bad, awful experience make you write off women completely.

I love how everyone thinks they know all about the motivations of another individual. The HUGE flaw in all of this is that we are all individuals and all have different motivations and tastes.

manipulative behavior is not bound by gender

Attraction has many different layers, it is not just bound to physical beauty.

this is your world


Break out of that mindset, because it is wrong

It doesn't surprise me that this woman didn't care to be with you, if your personality is coming across correctly. It sounds as if you don't have any sort of relationship with the woman in question, but that you were at some sort of event when she spurned you to flirt with another man. It sounds like she was trolling for drinks, etc. and you weren't giving her what she wanted.

This seems like the type of ideology that might be held by a jealous, manipulative man, just one who isn't as good at it as his women counterparts.

All I can say is that you have a lot to learn about women. To judge all women because of one is ridiculous. How would you like to be judged as something you are not just because some other man acted a certain way. Doesn't even make sense.

a reply to: greyer

Your assumptions about male attraction are based on a rather outmoded system of thought. I am sure I am not the only male who is not attracted physically to a woman, unless I am first attracted by her spirit and the contents and agility of her mind. I can register that a woman I pass in the street has attractive features, but there is a difference between understanding the physical parameters associated with standard models of attraction, and BEING attracted, at least, that has been my experience.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Well said young Sir!

For me, a guy never had to be rich or have a perfect face and body. I wanted someone I could trust, love, laugh and cry with and share my life with.

I would be a little disturbed if women were attracted to men's boobs.

a reply to: greyer

Lets look at this another way....1.She tried to talk to you and you decide to be nasty and just shut her down with a NO.
2.Then I guess you try to talk to her and now she won't talk to you.... I wonder why? I know I wouldn't talk to a guy that was just being ignorant to me,I would ignore him too.
3.Her flirting with another guy was her way of telling you " I don't need your foolishness,there are other guys who WILL pay attention to me,so whatever".
4.If she has done this in the past,then why would you even try to keep talking to her? And I'm sure your just the cat's meow that she keeps coming back for more of you. Now really,if your so high up on the spiritual ladder,why would you treat people like this? And I know a lot of women that DON'T play games. Hang with a better group is my advice. As far as women being of Satan(SINCE Jesus said don't look at any of them),well guess what.....men breed with them to have kids,so all those kids are half Satan,THAT INCLUDES YOU.

Set your sites higher,come down to earth and join the rest of us,and stop judging people hypocrite.

a reply to: greyer

You have got it all assbackwards.

Yes, women are less attracted by physical appearences, and yes, they find it attractive for a man to value pleasure and comfort.

No woman wants to be with a man that is doing an activity he doesn’t like, or that he is not good at. Because relationships breed empathy- she will feel his discontent. She will share in his lack of comfort and pleasure.

Yes, a woman likes when he feels some possessiveness (jealousy) , because that means he will aid in protecting her from predator-like males.

Yes, a woman likes that he is successful in what he does because that is indication that he must like what he does, and is not acting “against himself”, going against his deepest drives and ambitions. It close to impossible to be truly successful at anything you hate doing.

In the OP, you mentioned a woman trying to make you jealous, without the understanding that you did not want her – so why should it bother you, if you do not want her? If you do not want her, then that lack of jealousy made it clear and all is good- she understands then.

Women like a man who is focused on creating his personal life as he wants it to be, not according to what anyone else thinks it should be.

When you really focus on that, then yeah, you find love around every corner. That is one way to interpret that biblical quote. Love yourself and others will love you. The world reflects what you put out into it.

originally posted by: lizziejayne
Oh for goodness sake!

One personal experience and all women are manipulators? Hmmm...

One thing that your sex never ever fails to do is make wrong judgments. Mind you this is creative poetry and not an ego. The definition of ego is self. I am speaking for the void of space that is not self.

I will let humans keep judging me wrongly, and I will disassociate myself from them since God judges me rightly, in the understanding that God created the prideful and stubborn to have the delusion of falsehood, forcing his holy servants to reject and disassociate themselves from the wicked intentions of the world guided by the spirit of falsehood, to walk and be guided by the spirit of light, the spirit of truth, and the spirit of justice, which is the spirit specifically taught by Jesus named the holy spirit, the spirit of God.

a reply to: greyer

One thing that your sex never ever fails to do is make wrong judgments.

Are you saying that you believe that all women think the same thoughts, have the same values and act in the same way? That's what it sounds like, which is somewhat.... interesting.

Are you also suggesting that men do not make wrong judgments? Again... interesting.

Your generic assessment & castigation of an entire gender - based solely on your own experience & perception - smacks of ignorance. Now please, substantiate your claim with facts and data beyond your own perceptions. If you're able to do so, I would be interested in discussing what you have to share.

Females are human - we weren't assembled on a conveyor belt, given a XX chip & shipped out to the world. Therefore, I'm struggling to understand how you're able to bundle them up according to a common physical denominator and assign them all generic emotional & personal characteristics.

As an aside, and without meaning to be rude, it's my opinion that you place yourself on a very precarious spiritual pedestal when you speak of all women with such disdain and try to justify it with the words of God. You might disagree with me and that's fine. I'm simply exercising my conscience by advising you to reflect on how you're thinking, what you're saying & what the driving force behind all this actually is.

Thank you.

a reply to: greyer

This....this is so disgusting I almost want to slow clap it out and praise you as the sickest guy I've met in some time.

As I was reading the thread (especially the OP), I pretty much expected to see you edit it and do a macro change from "woman" to "object." That's what it read as.

"I had a bad experience...all objects are bad"

er sorry....I know you meant women

Sarcasm aside I am worried for you...but more for those you contact

I wonder, does the OP think all men are the same too?