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originally posted by: crazyewok
This is from the UK but this may be something to think about elsewhere.
After much thought here is how I will vote and why I think this is the best way:
Few principles I will go by:
1) Does not matter in the grand scheme who gets in to be prime minister. Cameron or milliband are typical useless politicians
2) All main UK Partys at the core corrupt useless cooperate puppets.
3) Party loyalty is irrelevant.
so what will be my strategy?
Make my decision on a local level.
My suggestion is look at the MP in your area. Forget whether they are conservative, Labor, Lib dem or other. Remove the label.
Look at what THEY as a individual have done and achieved, Look at how they have voted, Look at there back ground, look at how they vote.
Look up these facts about you MP and candidates:
1) Are they old school members of the "establishment"
2) are they old etonites or other private schoolboys/girls?
3) Are they from oxbridge?
4)Do they have links to big cooperation?
5) do they have aristocratic links?
6) are they capable of independent thinking and vote against there party?
7) How has you areas fared in the recession compared to the rest of the country?
8) do they ignore facts are common sense?
9) do they have links to Thatcher and other pedo lovers?
10) How did they fare in the expense scandal?
Again forget their party vote on the person and what there local record is like.
My Logic?
Voteing for party's wont change anything, so try and change the parties!
Kick the old career politician out on both sides. Try and infuse new blood. Punish failure and reward success. If a MP has done a good job for there area keep them in. If they have done a bad job boot them out.
My local MP has done a good job. We have fared better than most in the recession, unemployment has fallen, roads have been improved, we have some of the best schools in the area, she has voted against her own party who were in favor of war and she came from a normal school and attended a normal university and she publishes here expenses. So I will keep her.
I suggest everyone do the same in there own area at the general election.
Ignore the party, ignore the squabbling between milliband and Cameron and vote on your local MP and how good they have done there job!
Maybe if we boot out the career politicians and punish failure and reward success we can make changes from the bottom up?
Again ignore the party and vote on the candidate in your area.
originally posted by: nonspecific
My local MP is conservative and I would never usually vote that way but he's got a pretty strong majority and seems like he's done ok so far.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I lost faith in party politicians years ago, they are much of a muchness really and only serve the City. That was evident when we started bailing out the banks and allowed them to pay huge bonuses out of tax payers money. I appreciate they needed a bail out, otherwise it would have been chaos, but to allow payment of large bonuses spoke volumes.
I will go independent, even though I live in a constituency where Labour has a 20,000+ majority, but I won't follow herd.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I lost faith in party politicians years ago, they are much of a muchness really and only serve the City. That was evident when we started bailing out the banks and allowed them to pay huge bonuses out of tax payers money. I appreciate they needed a bail out, otherwise it would have been chaos, but to allow payment of large bonuses spoke volumes.
I will go independent, even though I live in a constituency where Labour has a 20,000+ majority, but I won't follow herd.
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I lost faith in party politicians years ago, they are much of a muchness really and only serve the City. That was evident when we started bailing out the banks and allowed them to pay huge bonuses out of tax payers money. I appreciate they needed a bail out, otherwise it would have been chaos, but to allow payment of large bonuses spoke volumes.
I will go independent, even though I live in a constituency where Labour has a 20,000+ majority, but I won't follow herd.
Without wishing to get rotten tomatoes thrown at me the Green party have some interesting ideas.
There, I said it.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I lost faith in party politicians years ago, they are much of a muchness really and only serve the City. That was evident when we started bailing out the banks and allowed them to pay huge bonuses out of tax payers money. I appreciate they needed a bail out, otherwise it would have been chaos, but to allow payment of large bonuses spoke volumes.
I will go independent, even though I live in a constituency where Labour has a 20,000+ majority, but I won't follow herd.
Why not look up to see of your local MP voted in favor of the bailout and there stance on bonuses?
As I said forget the party look at the candidate. See what he or she is actually like.
There are a few gems amongst the turds.
originally posted by: crazyewok
originally posted by: nonspecific
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I lost faith in party politicians years ago, they are much of a muchness really and only serve the City. That was evident when we started bailing out the banks and allowed them to pay huge bonuses out of tax payers money. I appreciate they needed a bail out, otherwise it would have been chaos, but to allow payment of large bonuses spoke volumes.
I will go independent, even though I live in a constituency where Labour has a 20,000+ majority, but I won't follow herd.
Without wishing to get rotten tomatoes thrown at me the Green party have some interesting ideas.
There, I said it.
There also have a lot of bat # crazy ideas
To much crazy for me like UKIP haha
But if both Labour and Torys candidates in your area are rotten then they are a valid 3rd party vote I guess.
If that's the only way to get a rotten MP out of office then go for it.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
There appears to be some good local politicians from different parties, but at the end of the day they vote how their party wants them to vote, unless it means upsetting the majority of their constituents.
originally posted by: Annunak1
i'm gonna vote for uhmm yeahhh that's right. i don't vote. should've saved my votingbill in case i run out of toiletpaper.
vote all you want people look what it has brought you these past years. same sh*t only worse every year
Without wishing to get rotten tomatoes thrown at me the Green party have some interesting ideas.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: crazyewok
Voting for any of the main parties is like choosing between coke and pepsi..Either way you are still voting for a corperation.
I have not voted for twenty years but i am desperate to see some change so i will caste my vote to the green party..
purp