Quetzalcoatl: An ET from Egypt originally, who went to America to stop human sacrifice

originally posted by: kiwasabi
The only way to create those images would have been to suspend his own lighted craft up in the air.

Which is precisely what he did. It has been repeatedly and conclusively shown that he suspended his models in the air between two trees using fishing line.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
Here's how he made his "UFO sounds":
billymeierufocase.com...

That sounds NOTHING like the real sound.

www.youtube.com...

Edit:
I also love how the suspended model wildly flies around in the wind lol. Billy Meier must've been able to control the wind somehow when he was doing his hoaxing.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: kiwasabi
The only way to create those images would have been to suspend his own lighted craft up in the air.

Which is precisely what he did. It has been repeatedly and conclusively shown that he suspended his models in the air between two trees using fishing line.

I'd be very interested in seeing the reproduction of the energy ship pictures.

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: kiwasabi
The only way to create those images would have been to suspend his own lighted craft up in the air.

Which is precisely what he did. It has been repeatedly and conclusively shown that he suspended his models in the air between two trees using fishing line.

I'd be very interested in seeing the reproduction of the energy ship pictures.

No problem. Which photos are the supposed "energy ships"? Are those the long-exposure shots of a man spinning a piece of burning steel wool on a string?

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: kiwasabi
The only way to create those images would have been to suspend his own lighted craft up in the air.

Which is precisely what he did. It has been repeatedly and conclusively shown that he suspended his models in the air between two trees using fishing line.

I'd be very interested in seeing the reproduction of the energy ship pictures.

No problem. Which photos are the supposed "energy ships"? Are those the long-exposure shots of a man spinning a piece of burning steel wool on a string?

Maybe you'd like to explain where they went wrong in their attempt to reproduce the images in this report.

www.theyfly.com...

Also, maybe you'd like to respond to the FACT that the reproduction sounds are not even remotely the same as the actual sounds that Billy Meier recorded?

a reply to: kiwasabi

I guess I'll just go ahead and preempt you here. If you plan to use the following link to debunk the energy ship photos, think again. He never actually reproduced anything coming close to the original Billy Meier photos. That's the problem with these guys who are attempting to debunk Billy...they're actually just producing flimsy hoaxes themselves to debunk a real phenomenon. Not an easy feat. I almost feel sorry for them.

www.billymeierufocase.com...

originally posted by: kiwasabi
a reply to: kiwasabi
I almost feel sorry for them.

And I for you. Minus the 'almost' bit.

For the record, that isn't the site I was going to 'use', but since you've failed to provide me with the "energy ship" photos after I asked, and since I know you won't believe anything counter to your incorrect preconceptions, I'm not going to even waste my time.

I sincerely hope your unwavering, blind faith in known liars gets you far in life. Toodles.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Yeah, the report I linked to only has ALL the energy ship photos in it. But it's nice to know all I have to mention is A) nobody can reproduce the beamship sounds and B) nobody can reproduce the energy ship pictures to get you debunkers running for momma.

originally posted by: kiwasabi
I read the Google translated version of the article you linked. Do you know what it's talking about in regards to the "land of red/place of red"

It's "red earth" which in Mayan is chak lu'um and not "palatquapi" as the YouTube poster claims, which appears to be simply nonsensical.

Source: This site.

Harte

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: Harte
Perhaps you should try a blog, without a "comments" area.

You seem not to want to have people comment on what you post. Why, then, do you post it on a forum?

Did you not know that a forum requires dialogue?

Harte

Hi, since you want to debunk the Billy Meier case so badly, please proceed to debunk the links I posted above. Otherwise, stop antagonizing me without any of your own "proof". I believe the only thing you ever linked to was Kal Korff videos and he has thoroughly been proven to be a fraud.

Edit:
Some background on your buddy Kal:
theyfly.com...

You must be thinking of someone else.

Assuming, of course, you are capable of thought.

I haven't linked to anything about Meier in this thread.

If I did, it would be to the thread where JRitzmann showed how he did it.

You can look for it yourself, though. The search function here is awkward, and I don't think Ritzmann was the author of the thread.

Ritzmann, a professional photographer, knows his stuff.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: Harte
Perhaps you should try a blog, without a "comments" area.

You seem not to want to have people comment on what you post. Why, then, do you post it on a forum?

Did you not know that a forum requires dialogue?

Harte

Hi, since you want to debunk the Billy Meier case so badly, please proceed to debunk the links I posted above. Otherwise, stop antagonizing me without any of your own "proof". I believe the only thing you ever linked to was Kal Korff videos and he has thoroughly been proven to be a fraud.

Edit:
Some background on your buddy Kal:
theyfly.com...

You must be thinking of someone else.

Assuming, of course, you are capable of thought.

I haven't linked to anything about Meier in this thread.

If I did, it would be to the thread where JRitzmann showed how he did it.

You can look for it yourself, though. The search function here is awkward, and I don't think Ritzmann was the author of the thread.

Ritzmann, a professional photographer, knows his stuff.

You are rude and condescending, and you are going to stop that right now if you want to continue posting in my thread. I notice you don't start too many of your own threads, just talk down to thousands of people in THEIR threads.

I guess you just wanted to antagonize me because I didn't want to discuss Billy Meier, you aren't actually interested in debunking him, because you know you don't have evidence on your side. I don't blame you.

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: Harte
Perhaps you should try a blog, without a "comments" area.

You seem not to want to have people comment on what you post. Why, then, do you post it on a forum?

Did you not know that a forum requires dialogue?

Harte

Hi, since you want to debunk the Billy Meier case so badly, please proceed to debunk the links I posted above. Otherwise, stop antagonizing me without any of your own "proof". I believe the only thing you ever linked to was Kal Korff videos and he has thoroughly been proven to be a fraud.

Edit:
Some background on your buddy Kal:
theyfly.com...

You must be thinking of someone else.

Assuming, of course, you are capable of thought.

I haven't linked to anything about Meier in this thread.

If I did, it would be to the thread where JRitzmann showed how he did it.

You can look for it yourself, though. The search function here is awkward, and I don't think Ritzmann was the author of the thread.

Ritzmann, a professional photographer, knows his stuff.

You are rude and condescending, and you are going to stop that right now if you want to continue posting in my thread. I notice you don't start too many of your own threads, just talk down to thousands of people in THEIR threads.

No, you are going to (eventually, it is to be hoped) stop fantasizing that you can stop anyone from posting in any ATS thread.

Like I said, you should get a blog if you don't care for commentary.

Regarding your characterization of my posts, I'm not in the least concerned with your opinion of what constitutes legitimate and reasonable argument. I could obviously characterize your posts as well, but I feel they speak (or, at least, gasp and grunt) for themselves.

Edited to add: If you are at all knowledgeable about the Billy Meier farce, then you should know who ATS member JRitzmann is and the work he's done - mainly right here at ATS..

Harte

a reply to: Harte

Alright, well then proceed to pretend like you are actually contributing to this thread then.

I've contributed plenty. You just have Meier on the brain.

Read my posts concerning quetzalcoatl, and the bogus scam artist pretending to be able to translate Mayan Glyphs that sat there untranslatable for a hundred years until the culmination of decades of hard work in or around 1980.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
I've contributed plenty. You just have Meier on the brain.

Read my posts concerning quetzalcoatl, and the bogus scam artist pretending to be able to translate Mayan Glyphs that sat there untranslatable for a hundred years until the culmination of decades of hard work in or around 1980.

Harte

That is actually the first time in this entire thread you wrote the name Quetzalcoatl. So you've therefore literally mentioned Billy Meier infinitely more times than the actual thread topic. It's quite clear what your agenda is.

It begun- vimeo.com...

a reply to: allisonsports99

Sweet, a member who has just joined in order to grief my thread further!

originally posted by: kiwasabi

originally posted by: Harte
I've contributed plenty. You just have Meier on the brain.

Read my posts concerning quetzalcoatl, and the bogus scam artist pretending to be able to translate Mayan Glyphs that sat there untranslatable for a hundred years until the culmination of decades of hard work in or around 1980.

Harte

That is actually the first time in this entire thread you wrote the name Quetzalcoatl. So you've therefore literally mentioned Billy Meier infinitely more times than the actual thread topic. It's quite clear what your agenda is.

Untrue, but only technically, admittedly.

Mayan codices, now, that's another story, isn't it?

Also, the bearded white gods (Votan was the one I commented on) are all post Columbian descriptions. Including the ones concerning Viracocha and Quetzalcoatl (the Aztec version of the Mayan Kukulcan.)

There. That's a third time. Feel better?

At any rate, you've done nothing regarding Quetzalcoatl in the thread yourself, other than spout the drivel from the fraud Meier. This should tell you why you get responses like mine - you based your thread on Billy Meier, not Quetzalcoatl.

Two more times, but who (other than you) is counting?

Harte

a reply to: Harte

I think your best line of the thread was " No photo of Meier's has ever been shown NOT to be a fake" followed by refusing to back up your claim with any evidence. Oh yeah, and then subsequently "denying ignorance" with me. What you've been denying is your own ignorance, which is so clearly visible to all of us. FYI: insulting other peoples' intelligence just makes it obvious how insecure you are about your own.

originally posted by: kiwasabi
a reply to: Harte

I think your best line of the thread was " No photo of Meier's has ever been shown NOT to be a fake" followed by refusing to back up your claim with any evidence. Oh yeah, and then subsequently "denying ignorance" with me. What you've been denying is your own ignorance, which is so clearly visible to all of us. FYI: insulting other peoples' intelligence just makes it obvious how insecure you are about your own.

If you read people's posts here, rather than spouting fraudulent nonsense, you would see the opposite is true.

I'm far more confident of my intelligence than pretty much anyone here. It's my own running joke, in fact. I use it all the time and even have done so in this very thread. But you wouldn't know that, having wasted so much of your life fawning over a liar like Meier.

Even my line you quote above is an example of it. Do you need me to explain it to you?

Harte