U of Oklahoma frat investigated after video of ‘Never be a n****r SAE’ sing-along goes viral

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Haven't you heard? Racism doesn't exist. It's all just something the left-wing liberal media makes up so that Al Sharpton can make money he won't pay taxes on.

Sarcasm aside, the responses by the school's President and the national fraternity have been commendably immediate and decisive.

Right! Fox News will avoid this story like the plague...You know what NEVER mind, ((Who are we kidding))....Fox news WILL still find a way to defend these racist actions.

a reply to: WhatAreThey
Oh cry me a effing river as if You,or your ilk would want to join the Congressional black caucas/black groups..You phony.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
The Greek Frat/Sorority system....providing you the best friends that money can buy.

Not a fan of frats, personally.

I reject every résumé crossing my desk which references a frat or sorority. Is it a mistake to assume they applied for the wrong job? LOL

a reply to: Stylez1

So far you are wrong...

Check fox they ran the story pretty much a here are the facts piece.

originally posted by: Stylez1

Right! Fox News will avoid this story like the plague...You know what NEVER mind, ((Who are we kidding))....Fox news WILL still find a way to defend these racist actions.

Actually, I was flipping through the news channels yesterday and Fox reported on it, how despicable the action was and that the fraternity's senior management team was probably aware of this occurring on the campus in question as well as others.

originally posted by: olaru12

It does seem that the elitist, fratboys, wealthy, usually conservative, can afford the time to pursue a career in politics...

Last time I checked the ideological breakdown of the Congress is usually around 50% plus/minus, with regular upticks in either direction.

The sad part is "these kids are our future leaders". Some will graduate and go on to have careers that could shape policy for everybody...Scary.

a reply to: marg6043

Why? because we have publicly named "black colleges" and "negro college funds" right? and that is not racist, but lo and behold name a college "white college" and that is racist and we will no have an end to it in the news.

"Black" colleges, and "Negro" college funds were established so that black students could go to school, when nearly every traditional college (aka "white" schools) were universally denying them entry for being black. It amazes me how little people know about this countries apartheid history. Black colleges have no discriminatory enrollment, a white student can go to a 'black' college. Most (but certainly not all!) college enrollments are non-discriminatory, but the tradition of a 'black' college still remains, and I hope they do for a long time as a testament to the countries apartheid past.

originally posted by: SubTruth






Look at this way if they had been bashing women no one would even think twice.

Oh really???

originally posted by: yuppa
. ALso slavery under the US itself as a colony and free was Actually around 72 yrs until the outlawing of slavery. Look it up.

How do you figure that?

The first Africans brought here involuntarily came in 1619. From there until the end of the Civil War was 256 years. It was another 99 years until the civil rights act and even longer until Jim Crow was mostly gone.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Haven't you heard? Racism doesn't exist. It's all just something the left-wing liberal media makes up so that Al Sharpton can make money he won't pay taxes on.

Sarcasm aside, the responses by the school's President and the national fraternity have been commendably immediate and decisive.

Racism doesn't exist...for the most part. But we are human beings and we use bad words to refer to other people and we tell insulting and funny jokes about other people. We all do it. Ever thought B---- about a woman? Are you sexist? Of course not, it is just what we do. We choose an insulting series of letters, make words and use them to summarize a list of things. Therefore, like it or not, N----- is no different. If you can joke about B---- you can joke about N-----. Does it offend someone???? Too bad...that is what we all do. Often at home or in our minds, but we do it. Every say F-- to refer to a gay person...even in a joke. Or maybe just laughed or smirked at a joke with F-- in it? Are you homophobic? N----- is no better nor worse than any of the other hundreds of negative, stereo-type words.

But racism? All whites are superior to all blacks? Nope. There is a touch of it I'm sure but its like the FDA...less than 1% doesn't count.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Haven't you heard? Racism doesn't exist. It's all just something the left-wing liberal media makes up so that Al Sharpton can make money he won't pay taxes on.

Sarcasm aside, the responses by the school's President and the national fraternity have been commendably immediate and decisive.

Yea but if AL Sharpton and rappers spew hate publicly it's ok and they actually make money from it.

Racism is bad on all levels

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
a reply to: marg6043

Why? because we have publicly named "black colleges" and "negro college funds" right? and that is not racist, but lo and behold name a college "white college" and that is racist and we will no have an end to it in the news.

"Black" colleges, and "Negro" college funds were established so that black students could go to school, when nearly every traditional college (aka "white" schools) were universally denying them entry for being black. It amazes me how little people know about this countries apartheid history. Black colleges have no discriminatory enrollment, a white student can go to a 'black' college. Most (but certainly not all!) college enrollments are non-discriminatory, but the tradition of a 'black' college still remains, and I hope they do for a long time as a testament to the countries apartheid past.

So you want to keep black colleges to stick it in the face of white people today, who had nothing to do with the past? I believe that makes you part of the race relations problem. Don't you? Should I hold things against the ancestors of yours? Of others? You know...Pearl Harbor was bombed. Is it beat up a Jap day or should I just erect a building to remind them of what their ancestors did? How about 911...kick a Muslim day?

You see...while others move forward, you apparently want to do nothing but live in the past. You are not a friend of solving our "difference" problems. You wish to continue them for "a long time as a testament to the countries apartheid past".

originally posted by: SubTruth
Expelled and banned.......They did not deserve this.

They weren't expelled (yet - fingers crossed). They were suspended. And they absolutely did deserve it.

So what if they are racist it is a choice you are entitled to make.

You're absolutely right. It's a choice they are entitled to, and no one is suggesting otherwise, but that does not mean there will be no consequences.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: theantediluvian
Haven't you heard? Racism doesn't exist. It's all just something the left-wing liberal media makes up so that Al Sharpton can make money he won't pay taxes on.

Sarcasm aside, the responses by the school's President and the national fraternity have been commendably immediate and decisive.

Actually MAN MADE RACISM exist but not BIOLOGICAL RACES/RACISM. Scientist will tell you its stricly a man made creation after they reviwed the evidenced back in the 60s and since at various times.

I'm surprised this even needed to be researched, we have known through thousands of years of Human interaction that we are an incredibly tribal species, and that this manifests in various ways.

The football team you support, the religion you ascribe to, the department you're a part of when competing against others in employment, the nation you were born in, the gender you belong to, the sexuality you have...

Far too many humans seem to follow these little paths and then take it to extremes. The reality is that many of these people in the frat might not have any inclination to actually be racist, but the "tribe" they are a part of becomes so through that tribal mentality and the willingness to "fit in" with the group.

Basically, those who act out in these ways are usually very weak people who need to feel part of a collective in order to progress through life. They have such a pathetic view of themselves as individuals (likely going back to their childhood where the parents clearly made them do things to "fit in" and be "normal") that they will easily go along with the crowd no matter what.

You just need to look at the culture and histories of those who exhibit such behaviour compared to others who don't. If you imagine a hippie, spiritual, surfer dude who smokes pot and paints at the weekend, you'll likely find a more open and tolerant person. Compare that to the blond, blue-eyed conservative from Ohio who was on the football team and exhibits massive ignorance and intolerance of others...

It's clear to many that this goes back to how they were raised. The hippie was encouraged to think, be unique, express themselves, defy norms and expectations. While the conservative was taught to tow the line, be "normal", fit in, obey the rules, compete, be "like daddy"...

It's all tribal, and we see it in so many aspects of culture it really doesn't need much investigation. The only solution to this is to continue to make the results of tribal behaviour socially unacceptable. We're more easily able to do that now with the technology we have, which in turn is waking millions of people up to individualism and lessening the impact of the tribal mentality.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You're the type that wants to point out how "black colleges" and "Negro college funds" are racist because they don't include whites, and let's throw BET, "Black Entertainment Television," in there as well, the standard refrain from white society still harboring racism is "how come we don't have WHITE Entertainment Television, or WHITE colleges, and WHITE college funds, and can you imagine how RACIST we would be called if we did?" But this sentiment ignores the segregated society that forced the creation of "Black" colleges, funds, and TV to allow blacks some chance at participating in society. Racists forcibly excluded blacks from American society, and in response some blacks created their own versions of these pillars of society (colleges, TV, etc.) and now we have racists decrying their existence.



"OH look a BLACK water fountain, how racist, do they think they can just exclude whites like that?"

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You're the type that wants to point out how "black colleges" and "Negro college funds" are racist because they don't include whites, and let's throw BET, "Black Entertainment Television," in there as well, the standard refrain from white society still harboring racism is "how come we don't have WHITE Entertainment Television, or WHITE colleges, and WHITE college funds, and can you imagine how RACIST we would be called if we did?" But this sentiment ignores the segregated society that forced the creation of "Black" colleges, funds, and TV to allow blacks some chance at participating in society. Racists forcibly excluded blacks from American society, and in response some blacks created their own versions of these pillars of society (colleges, TV, etc.) and now we have racists decrying their existence.

"OH look a BLACK water fountain, how racist, do they think they can just exclude whites like that?"

Actually...I'm nothing like what you describe. I have many friends of all differences. The man I respect the most is a 75 year old black man who grew up poor. So if you want to generalize someone...you better find a better target.

However, I guess since you didn't respond, I am right on with your description. You only want to keep hate alive. Get a t-shirt and just let everyone know. You may be surprised while you wear it, walking down the street crying out your "keep racist archeology alive to remind us who the devil is" that you will be getting nasty looks, and then laughs from both white AND black people who have passed you by.

As I will begin doing now.

Some idiots expressing freedom of speech. Wrong yes but unfortunately we can't control it. Racism will never die. White, Black, Brown, you name it and there will always be someone hating someone. This type of video that was shown is something that is part of the everyday culture in African American neighborhoods. The rap about killing whites, blacks, cops, whatever it is but since that is socially accepted it's ok.

I absolutely love that the school has come out and made a quick decision on their part. These guys should be punished but I'm not going to hang them out to dry over a stupid decision.

A video from 2013 has surfaced showing the House Mother also chanting the n word as she supposedly sings a rap song. The video was discovered when her picture was used on her GoFundMe page. She was trying to collect money for her support after losing her job when the fraternity was dissolved...

Source

Maybe the boys were learning from their house mother...

Here's what she said when confronted with the video:

"I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, I'm in shock," Beauton Gilbow, the SAE House Mother said.

"Did you ever get any indication there was anything like this going on?" News 9's Kelly Ogle asked.

"No, no, no. Never heard the song," Gilbow responded.

Racism is very alive and kicking.

Chain emails with photo shopped photos of Obama and his wife and Muslim hate "jokes" make the rounds in even the most professional of offices. People are just much more discrete these days, looking left/right/behind them before opening them up.

If the emails of the top 500 companies nation-wide were audited, we'd be in for a big shocker -- government emails as well. People may not openly say racist remarks in public these days, but behind closed doors and among friends -- racism is still very prevalent.

People love to feel that they are better than someone else. I don't see this ever changing.