Women could be from Venus... So could men

Women could be from Venus. The runaway greenhouse effect could have originally been the downfall of Venus. Where was Atlantis??? Beyond the straights of Gibralter . At the times of Plato, what was beyond the straights of Gibralter??? Nothing� At that time period the world was flat. However, if one looks straight beyond the straights of Gibralter around sunrise, what do you see. Venus. It is impossible for us to tell if Venus could have harbored intelligent life due to the fact that the extreme temperatures would melt any metal that would be used in building.

The fact that we (humans) have caused a signifcant change in the greenhouse effect in the last 50 years proves that change can be man made. But what about the great flood??? Well what happens as you heat matter... it expands. Not only that but what would a polar cap melt do to your environment?? What could cause such a disaster??? There are many things, including a nuclear explosion that suddenly releases extreme amounts of CO2.

Venus is known as our sister planet, but has an unexplained atmosphere and a runaway greenhouse effect. We have yet to find the origin of modern man. The explanation for this evolutionary anomoly could be that we are in fact results from ancient Venesians mixing with the neandertals of the time. The pyramids not only match up with the stars in Orion's belt but also are very coincidental with the line up of Mars, Venus and the Earth. Mars could have been a candidate but it was unable to sustain its own atmosphere and the thought of terraforming took way longer that what was needed at the time.
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Very interesting, but how did Venus support life, mayhap at one time it was farther from the sun.

If it wasn't for the runaway greenhouse effect Venus would have been Much cooler. The atmosphere has a great effect on the temperature of a planet.

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Could be but not likely. Some days my wife alternates between being my Sun : when she brightens up my day and leads the way.

On some days, she shows traces of coming from the Moon, beautiful to look at, glowing and yet distant, broody.

On some days she just plain behaves like a bat from hell.

Let me know when you find out.

LOL... men could be from Venus too.

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Wouldn't we be able to tell from the surface scans of venus? I mean assuming it's enviroment is caused from a life form destroying it, wouldn't there at least be the relics of urban sprawl somewhere on the landscape?

Nope, that is the thing. The heat on Venus is extreme. Russia landed a probe that lasted 23 minutes, before failing. We can't actually see through the atmosphere either. Our maps are made from radar scanning.

This dense atmosphere produces a run-away greenhouse effect that raises Venus' surface temperature by about 400 degrees to over 740 K (hot enough to melt lead). Venus' surface is actually hotter than Mercury's despite being nearly twice as far from the Sun.

Not to mention the extreme volcanic activity on Venus.

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Originally posted by K_OS
Women could be from Venus. The runaway greenhouse effect could have originally been the downfall of Venus.

What was there to begin with?

Where was Atlantis??? Beyond the straights of Gibralter . At the times of Plato, what was beyond the straights of Gibralter??? Nothing�

What you should state is that 'to their knowledge there was nothing'. The New World did not form over night as the Vikings, Portugese, and Colombus set sail. There was something.

At that time period the world was flat.

No, not everyone thought it was flat(just stupid people), in fact a few hundred years later Archimedes derived pi which helped assist in better calculations of the earth's circumference. Pythagoras had argued before Plato was born that the earth was round.

However, if one looks straight beyond the straights of Gibralter around sunrise, what do you see. Venus.

You can also see Venus from many other places than the Straits of Gibraltar and see many other planets than Venus from the straight of Gibraltar.

It is impossible for us to tell if Venus could have harbored intelligent life due to the fact that the extreme temperatures would melt any metal that would be used in building.

I think you answered your own question. The surface temperature of Venus can be upwards of 900 degrees F. I don't think there is any "known" life to have been harboured on Venus, let alone "inteligent".

The fact that we (humans) have caused a signifcant change in the greenhouse effect in the last 50 years proves that change can be man made.

It can also be derived from the fact we are comming out of an ice age that the world is heating up, nature too causes global warming

But what about the great flood???

What about it? Did it ever happen?

Well what happens as you heat matter... it expands.

Not necesarily

Not only that but what would a polar cap melt do to your environment?? What could cause such a disaster???

Depends on where you live and the degree to the melting.

There are many things, including a nuclear explosion that suddenly releases extreme amounts of CO2.

As well as fire extinguishers

Venus is known as our sister planet, but has an unexplained atmosphere and a runaway greenhouse effect.

How do you classify that, based upon looks?

We have yet to find the origin of modern man.

Single cell organism

The explanation for this evolutionary anomoly could be that we are in fact results from ancient Venesians mixing with the neandertals of the time.

Could you care to explain as how or why?

The pyramids not only match up with the stars in Orion's belt but also are very coincidental with the line up of Mars, Venus and the Earth. Mars could have been a candidate but it was unable to sustain its own atmosphere and the thought of terraforming took way longer that what was needed at the time.

Pyramids were built by primitive man who thought the stars were gods for all we know and care.

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Holy crap, this is copyrighted material. What was this published in?



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Originally posted by Frosty

Originally posted by K_OS
Women could be from Venus. The runaway greenhouse effect could have originally been the downfall of Venus.

What was there to begin with?

There is evidence that both Mars and Venus were at one time covered with salt water oceans.

Where was Atlantis??? Beyond the straights of Gibralter . At the times of Plato, what was beyond the straights of Gibralter??? Nothing�

What you should state is that 'to their knowledge there was nothing'. The New World did not form over night as the Vikings, Portugese, and Colombus set sail. There was something.

Sarcasm... The thought at the time was that the earth was flat and simply ended

At that time period the world was flat.

No, not everyone thought it was flat(just stupid people), in fact a few hundred years later Archimedes derived pi which helped assist in better calculations of the earth's circumference. Pythagoras had argued before Plato was born that the earth was round.

See above

However, if one looks straight beyond the straights of Gibralter around sunrise, what do you see. Venus.

You can also see Venus from many other places than the Straits of Gibraltar and see many other planets than Venus from the straight of Gibraltar.

There are many places, but also Venus

It is impossible for us to tell if Venus could have harbored intelligent life due to the fact that the extreme temperatures would melt any metal that would be used in building.

I think you answered your own question. The surface temperature of Venus can be upwards of 900 degrees F. I don't think there is any "known" life to have been harboured on Venus, let alone "inteligent".

That is now. The temperature has varied greatly in the Approximate 4.5 billion years since its creation

The fact that we (humans) have caused a signifcant change in the greenhouse effect in the last 50 years proves that change can be man made.

It can also be derived from the fact we are comming out of an ice age that the world is heating up, nature too causes global warming

No one is doubting that global warming occurs naturally but the fact that we have affected it in the past 50 years leaves room for possibillity

But what about the great flood???

What about it? Did it ever happen?

I am going from folk lore and almost every early civilation has an instance of a great flood.

Well what happens as you heat matter... it expands.

Not necesarily

Unless there is an increase in pressure this is what usually happens.

Not only that but what would a polar cap melt do to your environment?? What could cause such a disaster???

Depends on where you live and the degree to the melting.

If the atmosphere heated to the melting point of lead, all H2O ice would melt before it vaporized.

There are many things, including a nuclear explosion that suddenly releases extreme amounts of CO2.

As well as fire extinguishers

Some fire extinguishers do use CO2, but they do not create it. It is taken from elements already abundant.

Venus is known as our sister planet, but has an unexplained atmosphere and a runaway greenhouse effect.

How do you classify that, based upon looks?

Nearly the same size, gravitaional field, pressure, etc. Pick up an astronomy book and Venus is called our sister planet.

We have yet to find the origin of modern man.

Single cell organism

Life evolved from single cell organisms, and before that complex carbon molecules, but there are still missing links in the evolutionary chain.

The explanation for this evolutionary anomoly could be that we are in fact results from ancient Venesians mixing with the neandertals of the time.

Could you care to explain as how or why?

Same as a tangelo (tangerine/orange mix) etc. Nature will find a way.

The pyramids not only match up with the stars in Orion's belt but also are very coincidental with the line up of Mars, Venus and the Earth. Mars could have been a candidate but it was unable to sustain its own atmosphere and the thought of terraforming took way longer that what was needed at the time.

Pyramids were built by primitive man who thought the stars were gods for all we know and care.

A lot of early sculptures, art, architecture was used to pass on history.

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Holy crap, this is copyrighted material. What was this published in?

Have you ever seen this theory before, including movies, etc. That is why it is copyrighted.

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arg finger slipped, double unesessary post.


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No, the thought of the time was evolving, people were begining to understand that the earth was round. There were men before Pythagoras to state so, but not on such an elaborate and wide scale.

Even if the eath's temp was heated enough to melt lead, we wouldn't be here to see what happens to the ice caps as the water itself would evaporate and become non existent.

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Originally posted by Frosty
No, the thought of the time was evolving, people were begining to understand that the earth was round. There were men before Pythagoras to state so, but not on such an elaborate and wide scale.

Even if the eath's temp was heated enough to melt lead, we wouldn't be here to see what happens to the ice caps as the water itself would evaporate and become non existent.

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I am not doubting that people were beginning to understand that the world was round, but Plato was supposedly telling a story that had been passed down 900 or 9000 years earlier depending upon the translation. Earlier people had saw the world as flat with a few exceptions.

When I was referring to the greenhouse effect raising the temperature, I did not mean to make it seem that it was instant. I wasn't saying that poof it was that hot. I am trying to point out that there could have been a trigger that released the CO2 into the air and gave the greenhouse effect a quick kick in the butt. If the people were smart enough for inter solar travel they would have seen the immenent danger of the circumstance. If I am not mistaken, modern man showed up about 300,000 years ago. That leaves a lot of time for the changes on Venus to take effect.

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I forgot to add that there are a lot of scientists that believe that it is possible that life evolved on another planet and was trasported here. (Very primitave life). There are also theories that the earth would not have the water it now has. This theory says the comets crashed into earth bringing water and advanced comet.
This Venus theory simply states that they evolved more and brought themselves here. Not too out there considering that the mere thought of space travel was considered ludacris less than a hundred years ago. If either Mars or Venus were hospitable today, we could colonize them.

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Venus would be a pretty warm planet if its atmosphere was similar to earths. It lies just outside the "life zone" of a G class star such as ours. Perhaps it wouldn't be unbearable to live on, provided it did have the same or a similar atmosphere to earth's.

There are a few problems, however. Because it is just, and I do mean just, outside the "life zone" (meaning it is between the inner edge of the life zone and the sun), It is unable to retain certain gasses in its atmosphere due to them being at too high an energized state because of their proximity to the sun.

Also, Venus does not have a strong magnetic field by any standards. In fact its barely detectable. Meaning solar radiation would be an extremely big problem.

Mars has a pretty weak magnetic field, but its far enough from the sun to to make up some of the difference.

Most likely places for life: Mars, europa, titan. In the past, now, and in the future.

Thats pretty much it, folks.

Considering the fact that people came from AFRICA I would say no. We did not come from Venus.

I believe there is life in Mars, deep within though. If Venus's atmosphere was most like earth's it would obviously have life. Venus also has what Mars doesn't; Techtonics Plates, recycling the land every so often.